Day 56: Pre-op Fiasco

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Purgatory
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   Posted 1/9/2009 4:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Today mark's the 8 weeks to the day from my open RP surgery, and my 56th day with a catheter.  Today was suppose to be simple.  I went to St. Francis Hospital in Greenville for pre-op for the upcoming procedure.  Now when I was there on Nov. 10th for the big surgery, I was in and out in 20 minutes, was pretty impressed.  Today, I was there for 3 hours and 15 minutes, of which only the last 15 minutes had anything to do with the pre-op. Then when they did see me, every thing was rush, rush, rush.  The worse part was sitting that long on a hard chair with that leg cath in place, and having to keep emptying it while I waited.  They never gave an explanation for the long wait.  The anethesiologist gave me a choice of being knocked out all together, or just from the waist down, I told him know way I wanted the top half of me to know what they were doing through my penis down below.  So he said he would put me under, and make sure I was on adequate pain med when he brought me out of it.  For that I was thankful, I told him I had been through enough pain and anguish the past 2 months.  Back home, trying to chill.  The surgery/procedure is still set for noon on Tuesday, January 13th, same hospital.
 
David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


BillyMac
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   Posted 1/9/2009 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Purgatory
I admire your stoicism and patience. You must at times feel like getting somebody by the throat and giving them a good shake while asking "how would YOU like to be in my shoes?" Good luck on Tuesday...........I'll be thinking of you.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07
4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
PSA August 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
Post-op pathology rechecked by new lab:
Gleason downgraded to 4+3=7
Focal extension comprised of grade 3 cells
PSA September 08 <0.01 (new lab)


Gunner59
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   Posted 1/9/2009 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Your patience is most admirable, about an hour after my scheduled appointment time I would surely have been in someones face. With all you've been through, a three hour wait would have been simply too much to bear. I certainly hope the surgery goes much more smoothly, and the results get you "going with the flow".

Best of luck!!

Ralph
Age 48 at diagnosis
3 Jul 08 PSA 27.21
Biopsy positive 3+3=7 9 of 24 punches
Bone scan clear
22 Sep 08 Laproscopic Radical Prostatectomy and bilateral pelvic Lymphadenectomy
Gleason 3+4 after prostate removal, lymph nodes clear
Stage T2B
PSA at 3 months=undetectable


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/9/2009 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
For whatever its worth department, when I was seen, the nurse was very efficient and apologetic. I told her I was on a cath and it was aching me bad sitting all that time. The woman that drew blood, was in a big hurry to go home, and hurt the fool out of me. Not a real happy camper right now, there are still times that I wish I had never had psa tests done. There's a certain bliss in ignorance. Mostly want to get over this cath hurdle and get on with the rest of my recovery like everyone else.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/9/2009 5:08 PM (GMT -6)   
PS: I am very passive by nature, sometimes too patient for my own good. But I have been through so much medical stuff since age 28, that I am the poster child for being a nice mannered compliant patient. So many people were griping at the desk at the pre-op, cussing at the help, etc, I figure I couldn't add anything positive to the situation, so I just sat and tried to zone out.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


divo
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   Posted 1/9/2009 5:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Dearest David, Oh my gosh!! What you went through....so painful, so difficult...Pete knows what it is like also....We understand what is happening. Even today, with hip surgery, Pete had to have the urologist deactivate the AUS 800...,,,He put it in with a scope and Pete said it felt like barbed wire....We know what you have gone through .....You are strong and special and strong...and you will get over this >>>>>>>>stuff . Diane
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/9/2009 5:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Diane, once gain, what Pete is going through makes my situation appear to be nothing and trivial. I am sure you post us here quickly once his surgery is over, all hoping for the very best. Thank you for your kindness, it really helps, and keeps things in their proper perspective. Just found out the woman I see at my credit union all the time, lost both her parents last year, and now she has breast cancer, will have to lose one breast for now, go through chemo and radiation. You never know what is going to happen next, as the Bible says, it rains on the just and unjust alike.

David in SC

Rooting for Pete, I really hope this helps his quality of life issues.
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


mvesr
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   Posted 1/9/2009 7:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi David

You are a better man than I am.

Mika
age at dx 54 now 56
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
Tossed the pads this spring
ED still a problem
Got a shot last week and it was great
A year an a half of zero's
 


DJBearGuy
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   Posted 1/9/2009 7:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Divo and Pete,
...Barbed wire? Zowie. I must remember to avoid having to be scoped. I would have thought it wouldn't feel much different from a catheter.

David,
It's too bad about your pre-op experience, but I know what you mean. My wife has had a number of surgeries at other hospitals, and sometimes they are very poorly managed. Like having to wait 4 hours for a 10 minute consultation. Or getting a dosage of medication that is ten times less than it's supposed to be. My wife is a pretty feisty person, and that might have saved her life. Having a spouse around to help is also good, as you both know!
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/9/2009 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Trust me, based on my one time scoping this past monday, way different then just getting a new cath in while you are awake. Worse part was when the dr. was moving it back and forth looking at stuff. That was Monday, and my winky is still sore from that intrusion. So you can see why I want to be completely under when they do the bigger procedure that method next Tuesday. Don't even want to know the details.

David

Mika, I hope you didnt mean that literally, I am no better or no worse then anybody else. Just plain old me, quirks and all.
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


Ralph Alfalfa
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 469
   Posted 1/9/2009 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi David,
I know what you mean. Wednesday I went for pre-surgery testing and just sitting in the lobby of the hospital where I had to wait, I would bet that at least 300 people came in and out of that place in less than 30 minutes. Ain't the modern world of medicine wonderful?
Hang tough until Tuesday and beyond. Maybe they've finally gotten this problem figured out to get you on the right road back.I sure as heck hope so. You've had such a rough time that it's time for some relief. I've often wondered if the doctor's should prescribe some sort of anxiety meds for us until we get through the roughest part of our journeys. But I guess this forum is somewhat of an anti-depressant for some. All the best.
Bob
 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7 T1c
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/9/2009 8:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Mike, being passive doesn't mean one is weak, a lot of people mistake that. I follow more in the line of Ghandi and Martin Luther King. Plus I learned a long time ago in life, it pays to choose your fight. There were enough loudmouths and angry people at the hospital. And the staff was doing the best they could under the circumstances, I wouldn't want to be treated that way, so I choose not to treat others in a hostile way.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 1/10/2009 1:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Geez David. I am so sory about your luck with your surgery and bed side manners displayed by your team...Next time you go there you ought to bring a paper bag and inflate it and pop it when you check in. When you get their attention tell them you are back again and you are getting tired of this? Heck I feel like flying out there and doing it for you. They really need to get on the ball here. If it were me, this would be this groups last chance to get it right. I kinda meant this jokingly...but only kinda!

You will have my prayers that they get this right, quickly!

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
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STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/10/2009 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Well Tony, in some ways you are quite right. Based on my dr. remarks on Monday, he has admitted that the difficulty stems from my open surgery, where the urethera joined the bladder after the removal of my prostate. He's been doing this for 26 years now, considered the best in all of SC, and that mine was the most difficult he'd ever encountered. That's why he had me on a cath for one month after surgery instead of the 10 days to 2 weeks as normal. That's why after 2 failed attempts of getting me off the cath, he wasn't totally surprised. He said during the surgery, if he did too much, it would have left me perm. incontinent for life, and if he didn't do quite enough, blockages.

With this corrective surgery, he said he is in the same situation, too much opening will leave me incontinent, and too little won't solve the problem. Once he frees his patient of cancer, his number one concern, particularly at my age, is the continence issue. So in many ways, he has one chance to do this correction right on Tuesday, and I am hoping he takes all the time he needs, and does the best he can. I don't want to stay on caths the rest of my life, nor do I want be in diapers the next 20 plus years.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


zufus
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   Posted 1/10/2009 10:06 AM (GMT -6)   
David been watching your journey on this board I am sure the road side assistance of this group is way better than any Rx for you and others. Kudos for the showing others: 'it ain't the size of the dog in a fight, it's the fight in the dog' (be a pitbull accept no second place). You deserve kudos on this from anybody in any type of treatment, hey we have seen some people go postal on a lot less frustation and reasons in our world out there-(society wise).

fyi-I have two dogs and known dog/animal lover (Hey, l play with them-rumble with them and even have barked with them.....hooooooow-hoooooow, now is this a side effect of those drugs over the years?)
Call of the Wild

Hang in there maybe someone knows alot about this road, I don't.

Zufus


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/10/2009 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Zufas, thanks for the words. Me, a cat person, have a dog, very good watch dog, but would never let it in the house, too sensitive to dog smell!

Going nuts or postal always sounds good in theory, but no practical value in solving the problems at hand.
I say give peace a chance. lol.
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


Swimom
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   Posted 1/10/2009 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
David,

You said it right when you said there were enough people already griping. It's nice to hear someone who remembers there are so many patients and so few staff to help them all. Pre-op is just trying to coordinate the mass of tests both in house and out patient. Pain in the tush sometimesa but, there are just days like that. Gald you got everything done. I do hope this is the one that gets the job done. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

PS: I know what its like after more than 29 years of hurry-up-and-wait. We figure everyone else is waiting as well and getting upset only delays staff even further so, we just wait. There are usually old donated magazines to enjoy and occasionaly we make a new friend. Not to say I haven't had that rare postal moment though! I remember waiting almost 4 hours once, holding one in a body cast, one post-op in a wheelchair and a baby strapped to my back. Also with me was our toddler god child. This was a pretty typical scene if Paul was working. Ah, the days of my youth! That scenario would sure do physical harm today:>)

The day started off badly. People were acting like the elevators were a NY subway. They were in such a hurry they had the ***** to step over my children to get on an elevator. Yep, stepped over 2 wheelchairs. One kid with a freshly operated on raised leg! After waiting our turn (for more than 30 minutes) and having been stepped over 4 times, I finally yelled out "STOP RIGHT THERE" and ordered everyone to back away. Even made a few get out of the elevator and scolded every one of the thoughtless jackasses. We got on the elevator and I pushed the button. Coulda heard a pin drop. After nearly 4 hours, the appointment we waited for took all of 5 minutes and could have been handled with a postcard.
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/10/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Pretty good story there swim. Made me smile, but i could never be that bold in that situation. One thing about the long waits, you learn real fast, that there are people dealing with a whole lot worse situations then you have going on.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


Swimom
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   Posted 1/10/2009 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
David,

I'd still be waiting at the elevator if I were the angel you've been ;>) Hang in there. It has to improve from here!

swim
 


Ralph Alfalfa
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   Posted 1/10/2009 8:48 PM (GMT -6)   

Love the story, Swim.  I think for you speak for half of America.

Bob


 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7 T1c
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/11/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Definitely no angel, swim, I can assure you of that. lol.
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, 1/9/9 - pre-op, 1/13/9 - corrective operation scheduled at St. Francis
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 

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