Now they are saying that sex causes more Pca ?

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cvc
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   Posted 1/26/2009 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I just read a report on Google with "new" info that says sex and wipping your skippy can cause greater incidence of Pca ? What next ??
 
I thought i read that those things were good for you nono

BillyMac
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   Posted 1/26/2009 7:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Now I've been about a bit but that "wipping your skippy" , an expression I have never heard, sounds to me like it could do you a real mischief.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07
4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
PSA August 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
Post-op pathology rechecked by new lab:
Gleason downgraded to 4+3=7
Focal extension comprised of grade 3 cells
PSA September 08 <0.01 (new lab)


cvc
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   Posted 1/26/2009 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   
didnt know if I could use the term Master#@te on here so ...oh well you get the meaning eyes

Purgatory
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   Posted 1/26/2009 7:42 PM (GMT -7)   
And every man that has PC has drunk water too
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3
3rd Biopsy 9/8 Positive 7 of 7 cores pos, 40-90%, Gleason 7
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9/9
 
 


DJBearGuy
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   Posted 1/26/2009 9:08 PM (GMT -7)   
cvc, thanks for pointing this out. I note that it's a British study. So maybe it only applies to Brits! smilewinkgrin

But seriously, they did not say that sex causes prostate cancer. Rather, the two occur together--men who had a lot of sex were more likely to have prostate cancer. The suggested reason was that men with high sex drives probably had high hormone levels, which might contribute to pc.

Previously, someone else here pointed out a study that linked pc to acne. Which is also linked to hormone levels.
Diagnosis at age 53. PSA 2007 about 2; PSA 2008 4.3
Biopsy September 2008: 6 of 12 cores positive; Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter out on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, out again 14th day following negative cystogram
Pathology: pT2c; lymph nodes negative; margins involved; 41 grams, 8% involved by tumor; same Gleason 4+3=7
PSA 1/22/08 non-detectable! 8-)


James C.
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   Posted 1/27/2009 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Anyone know of any studies showing rates of PCA in priests as compared to the general population. (No jokes, please)
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/27/2009 9:21 AM (GMT -7)   
I am hunting for the source, it wasnt that long ago, may have been a European report, that was saying that men that *********d frequently was much lower risk for PCa. They can't have it both ways.
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3
3rd Biopsy 9/8 Positive 7 of 7 cores pos, 40-90%, Gleason 7
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9/9
 
 


James C.
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   Posted 1/27/2009 9:53 AM (GMT -7)   
David, that's what I recall. If masterbution kept it low in one study and abstinence kept it low in another, then there's something screwy somewhere. Is masterbution by priests considered not being abstinent? I really have never heard whether or not.

James C.

Pete trips again!
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   Posted 1/27/2009 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I saw the study printed from several sources and you are correct, they used to say just the opposite! I think its going to turn into one of those butter or margerine debates. Well, it's to late for us anyway and I serously doubt that any young men are going to let this little article stand in their way of taking care of BIZ!!!
Your friend,
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. 55 and still alive and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, one on an aircraft carrier heading for Hong Kong and the other on a Gator Freighter stationed in Norfolk, Va. I am one proud PaPa! 


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/27/2009 10:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Another angle that concerns me a little, just because I don't know the biology, is after prostate surgery, since you can't ejaculate anymore, and I guess the same with vasectomies, what happens to to what the testes are producing, does it get absorb, just sit there, etc. And is there any negative affect in either case.
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3
3rd Biopsy 9/8 Positive 7 of 7 cores pos, 40-90%, Gleason 7
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9/9
 
 


LV-TX
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   Posted 1/27/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
David...no problems that I am aware of anyway. I had my vasectomy 23 years ago...but then again I read somewhere that there might be a relationship to getting PCa after having a vasectomy....don't you just love all this nonsense out here...geez.


You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal-Gland 38 cc
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral (Perineural Invasion present at base) - Gleason (3+3) 6  Stage T1C
August 23 - Bone Scan - Hips, Spine and ribs marked uptake - X-Ray showed clear -Hooray
Sept 9 2nd DRE - questionable - TRUS...shadow in base - Gland now 41 cc
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (4+3) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
4 tumors in prostate - largest being 6 cm 
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
       3 month Jan 2009 .06


James C.
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   Posted 1/27/2009 11:33 AM (GMT -7)   
David, had a vasectomy 38 years ago, they are re-adsorbed I never had any problems from it.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/27/2009 12:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Les and James. I may have read something in passing about a supposed link between PC and vasectomies. I have never had one, but my oldest son did about 4 years ago. But after my surgery, guess I am neutered too, lol.
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3
3rd Biopsy 9/8 Positive 7 of 7 cores pos, 40-90%, Gleason 7
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9/9
 
 


LV-TX
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   Posted 1/27/2009 1:46 PM (GMT -7)   
David...don't worry about the neutered part...lol After my vasectomy I was boasting about the big gun shooting blanks...now I am just a squirt gun...<grins>
You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal-Gland 38 cc
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral (Perineural Invasion present at base) - Gleason (3+3) 6  Stage T1C
August 23 - Bone Scan - Hips, Spine and ribs marked uptake - X-Ray showed clear -Hooray
Sept 9 2nd DRE - questionable - TRUS...shadow in base - Gland now 41 cc
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (4+3) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
4 tumors in prostate - largest being 6 cm 
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
       3 month Jan 2009 .06


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/27/2009 2:12 PM (GMT -7)   
or perhaps guns with a silencer on them
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3
3rd Biopsy 9/8 Positive 7 of 7 cores pos, 40-90%, Gleason 7
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9/9
 
 


coxjajb
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   Posted 1/27/2009 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
At my first PSA, the doctor suggested that sex could be a reason for an elevated PSA. Geez, I knew ********** would cause me to go blind (I stopped at the point where I needed glasses). [img]/community/emoticons/blush.gif[/img]
Age 50
Pre - Op PSA, 4.3
Gleason 3+4=7
Stage T1C
da Vinci Prostatectomy 8/1/08
No issues with incontinence since day 1 after catheter removal
ED, need a little help from Levitra
First post op PSA 11/11/08, 0.00

Post Edited (coxjajb) : 1/27/2009 7:36:13 PM (GMT-7)


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 1/27/2009 3:06 PM (GMT -7)   
This just in, breathing can lead to prostate cancer...Not breathing can cure it. I guess they can have it both ways...

Tony


56pontiac
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   Posted 1/30/2009 2:32 PM (GMT -7)   
LIFE IS A CARCINOGEN!  Live it to the fullest! Everyday is a blessing! Way to many stupid studies funded by imbeciles. Did you know they have now discovered by a study that animals can reason that their actions will cause a desired affect. BRILLANCE CAN BE BLINDING SOMETIMES.

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