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kcragman
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   Posted 2/13/2009 8:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys,
 
With my patho report, I am considered a high risk patient - high risk for recurrance. I saw my doc yesterday and I asked him about some of the comments I have seen on this board.
 
He is Jason Engel, with the Urologic Surgeons of Washington, and the George Washington University Hospital. He is a highly regarded robotic surgeon. My wife and I call him "Top Gun." If you ever meet him, you'll understand. He says the Walsh book (from Johns Hopkins) is about the best PCa book out there, but he and his group take a very dim view of Walsh's "overly optimistic" stats. Conversely, he says that a lot of the stuff you find on the internet can be overly pessimistic.  
 
He has a Fellowship with GWU, and his "Fellow" doctor is writing a paper about 1,000 of Engel's patients, including at least 100 high risk guys. Hopefully this paper will be out this year, but he says it will show that his high risk guys are doing much better than the partin tables indicate, and that surgery is a very viable option for high risk patients (of course, he is a surgeon). I believe somebody said that Gleason 8 and above indicates that the cancer is probably systemic - meaning it has spread. Engel says that is crap. (Top Gun is very opinionated.) He said it would be unethical for him to operate if he believed that the cancer was systemic, because at that point it would be beyond surgical resolution.
 
I want to reiterate that he said that according to his numbers, if you achieve a zero at the 6 month mark, even if the cancer returns you only have a 10% chance of dying from it - regardless of age.
 
My wife (the PhD anatomist) told me that even after the cancer cells have broken out of the prostate capsule, they have a tendency to hang around the prostate for a while before they spread. She knows a lot about cancer at the cellular level. I asked her to write up a little blurb about that for this board. We'll see what happens.
 
So, I know a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest - but I'm taking all of this as positive news and I wanted to pass it on to other high risk guys. It is certainly better than the tables that tell me oops - I'm supposed to be dead already.  
 
By the way - I also received my 9-month zero. Woo-hoo! The wife & I had our usual wild celebration - a quiet glass of Guiness and a plate of hot avocado & spinach dip at the "Froggy Bottom" which we walk to after each visit to see Dr. Engel.
 
kcragman 
Age: 53; 52 at DX
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
              Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb 2008: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
              cancerous and the 6th was suspect.  
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.


James C.
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   Posted 2/13/2009 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Congrats on the zero. May you have a lifetime of them...
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 2/13/2009 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Great news on the zero.

I agree the Partin tables are outdated and do not take into account adjuvant therapies. These tables are only for consideration after biopsy and have been complied over many years of patients surgical outcomes at Johns Hopkins. The fact is that surgical techniques have changed. By that I don't refer to modality(open vs. robotic for example), but rather what is removed and procedurally how. In addition, grade does not preclude progression. A gleason 10 can be surgically removed, confined to the prostate, and never progresses. It is less likely, but it not set in stone either.

But the Partin tables may show a high degree of probability that the cancer has spread outside the capsule, but they don't say that surgical removal combined with radiation could still irradicate it. But there is a lot of studies that show this is true...

My message for the G8 and above guys is don't rush off to the Lupron injections unless it is confirmed to be progressed.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 15, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (January 13, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Purgatory
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   Posted 2/13/2009 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
kcragman,
I really liked your post. I like the positive spin on areas that I think we are all concerned about. I have often wondered about that partin tables, and how up to date they were, they can make even a positive attitude turn negative if you take it all literally. sounds like a top notch doctor you are talking about, love those kinds of stories. thanks, you brightened up my day for sure

david in sc
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3
3rd Biopsy 9/8 Positive 7 of 7 cores pos, 40-90%, Gleason 7
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves saved, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05
 
 


livinadream
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   Posted 2/13/2009 2:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Krag thanks for the post. I will seek the positive in everything so this is refreshing. It is easy for people to get caught up in the negatives of what we read on the internet.
I would like to ask the group, it seems as though this information is if the cancer is contained. What about if it has spread as in my case? What then is the probabilities. Are we back to the Partin tables?
As self appointmented president of the zero club, WELCOME. Please stay for years to come.

peace and grace
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .06
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


spisam
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   Posted 2/13/2009 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   

Dr Engle was my urologist back in the late 90's when I lived in DC. I found him to be excellent. He is also a good golfer.

Sam

  


divo
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   Posted 2/13/2009 4:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Krag, Thanks very much for this positive post. We have been through the wringer and Pete just had his PSA it is up to 0.7 ..Last month it was 0.6...the month before 0.5 This after radiation, seeds, and salvage surgery....We will wait and see what happens...meantime, we are enjoying the new hip replacement last month which is rendering Pete Pain Free! So that is good. Thanks again for a very positive post.... Diane
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
AUS improving..only 2 pads a day and one at night
Complete hip replacement surgery Dr. Waters Gainesville, FL 1/9/09
Forging ahead to health!


Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 2/13/2009 6:00 PM (GMT -6)   
KCragman,
First congratulations on you zeros and hope that it will stay there. For me, your news gives hope since I'm one of those high risk cases. I hope to have good results like yours.
Age: 67
5ft 10 inches 182 lbs
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
Dx 12/30/08
Robotic surgery performed on Feb 9th
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
12 sections tested 2 with cancer
Left Medial Apex 4.0 mm. Gleason score 9 (4+5)
Left Lateral Apex. 2.0 mm Gleason score 8 (4+4)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
PSA 3.5


kcragman
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   Posted 2/13/2009 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for all the "positive" responses. I am happy to pass on the tid-bits I pick up, AND I threw in some Simon & Garfunkel lyrics.

So there you have it - PCa info and S&G lyrics in the same email - a feat previously considered impossible, but I do it because I care.

Zeros for everybody!
kcragman
Age: 53; 52 at DX
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
              Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb 2008: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
              cancerous and the 6th was suspect.  
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.


Keep calm
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   Posted 2/13/2009 10:02 PM (GMT -6)   

kcragman:  your entry was a breath of fresh air.  We are also from the dc area (many years ago, we lived in Foggy Bottom, but I don't know the restaurant you mentioned) and my husband was treated at Hopkins in September 2008,  PSA jumped from .7 to 1.4 in a year, Gleason 8 biopsy, upgraded to Gleason 9 after open radical prostatectomy, negative margins, negative vesicles, negative lymph nodes, but there was some EPE necessitating removal of nerves on one side.  PT3A.   First PSA after surgery was .1 which the doctor said was as low as this particular test went.  Waiting to take the second 6 month psa in a few weeks.  

We are anxious -- keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.  The surgeon, who is also an oncologist, does not paint either a rosy picture or a gloomy one.  He says Gleason 9 is bad cancer and we'll just have to wait and see.    I don't want anyone to offer us false hope, but it would be nice to get some encouraging news once in a while, which is why I was so interested in your post.  There's just not much encouraging out there or those in the high risk group.  

By the way, we saw two surgeons before we selected Hopkins and both said that surgery for my husband's Gleason 8 was the ONLY option available to us.  The robotics guy (the one we didn't pick) said you don't go into a gunfight with a knife - you go into it with everything you've got and that is surgery.  He was actually much more confident than the open surgeon we ultimately chose - in response to our question as to whether surgery "could, might or should" result in a cure, the robotic guy's response was "It WILL result in a cure."  Our open surgeon, who is awesome and to whom I will be forever grateful no matter what happens, was much more tempered when answering the same question.  His response, with a small smile: "I like to think I can cure all my patients."  Go figure.

I was a bit surprised about your doc's comment that Walsh's statistics are overly optimistic.  Perhaps they are optimistic for the low risk Gleason 6 patients, but for Gleason 8-10 patients, Walsh said there is only a 40% chance of non recurrence after surgery.  That does not instill confidence in me, but someone has to be in the 40% group, right?

Anyway, it's nice to hear about doctors out there who are expressing encouraging words to their high risk patients.  Thank you for sharing that.


kcragman
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   Posted 2/14/2009 7:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Keep calm:

Engel is an uber-confident guy also, but he's never said surgery WILL result in a cure. He is extremely data-oriented, pragmatic, and does not sugar-coat anything. But he tells me almost every time I go that Walsh does not do (or does not do many) high risk guys, and in that category his numbers are better than Walsh's. (We are also talking robotic surgery vs. open surgery I believe.) He also tells me to stop reading all the "crap" on the internet (i.e., don't scare yourself to death with statistics), and to not worry about anything as long as I have negative margins and zero PSA.

It may be of interest to you to go back and read a string I started on 6/26/08 titled "Incontinence Trial & Some News." We got into a discussion of Walsh there.

Yes, his comment 3 months ago about the zero PSA at the 6 month mark meaning a 10% chance of cancer mortality was a HUGE moment for my medical science wife. (Me? I like to stay blissfully relatively un-informed, so it was no surprise to me. I'm going to live forever, right?) His comment was based on his statistics, and I certainly hope that means other doctors are experiencing the same thing.

I wish all the best to you & your husband. Please keep us posted.

kcragman
Age: 53; 52 at DX
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
              Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb 2008: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
              cancerous and the 6th was suspect.  
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.


rob2
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   Posted 2/14/2009 8:00 AM (GMT -6)   
kcragman, I have been waiting on your 9 months report. I am happy things are going great. I had a good report too. Your report on the 6 month stat made me feel good. I too am high risk and consider myself very luck!

Take care. Are you going to be back coaching soccer this year?
 
Age 48
occupation accountant
PSA increased from 2.6 to 3.5 in one year
biopsy march 2008 - cancer present gleason 7
decision - surgery (robotic)
surgery may 9, 2008 - houston, tx
pathology report -gleason 8
margins clear
9 month  PSA <.04 (low as the machine will go)
continent at 10 weeks (no pads!)
ED is still an issue


GreenAcres
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   Posted 2/14/2009 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Always love dropping by to see those Zeros. And an excellent post! We became high risk after our path reading and several here have followed us as we first were facing up to a 50% rate of return to now being in the same ranks as those who had a clean report, having successfully reached the magic 2-year mark with undetectables.

What I want to throw into the mix is that a lot of things can happen as that prostate gland is being removed. It can get squished, bruised, etc. even in the best of circumstances. That can lead to a pathology report that errs on the side of caution (and more worry) because the interpreter can't "be sure."

It's well worth asking those particulars about a report. And - as Tony said - you don't necessarily have to race off for further treatments unless circumstances warrant it specifically.
Husband: Age 67
PSA had doubled in 14 mos to 4.3/Gleason 6
da Vinci 8/06 in Austin with Dr. Randy Fagin
Post surgical path shows encapsular penetration; possible bladder neck involvement.
PSAs remain undetectable; no further treatment at this time.
Next PSA: April 08


kcragman
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   Posted 2/14/2009 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Rob2 - Good to hear from you, and good to hear you are progressing well.

Yes, I am coaching again. This will be my 22nd consecutive season of girls' rec league soccer (2 seasons per year), and 25th season over 16 years. As the coordinator for the U16s and and U19s, I am building the teams now. We'll have our league formation meeting in mid-March, and then we'll kick off in mid-April, which is late for us. Not sure why.

But I love it because it keeps me young. For some guys, it's the smell of fresh mown grass, the pop of a ball in a glove, and the crack of a bat. For me, nothing beats the sound of a gaggle of girls laughing and jabbering non-stop as they jog a lap around the field. It means spring!

Soccer on!
kcragman
Age: 53; 52 at DX
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
              Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb 2008: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
              cancerous and the 6th was suspect.  
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.


gpg
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   Posted 2/14/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Krag for an informative post and congrats to you on the 0.

Scott
Diagnosed @ 48yo 04/07
focal, low volume tumor gleason 6
RRP 07/30/07 robotic
Persistance of PSA
IMRT 11/07-01/08
Emerg, cysto obstructed bladder 01/08
Persistance of PSA
08/08 learned Dr. left significant amount of prostate
12/08 PCA3 negative
12/08 saturation biopsy 36 cores 24 having normal prostate tissue
12/08 referred whole to med malprac attorney


sandstorm
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   Posted 2/14/2009 3:24 PM (GMT -6)   
kcragman, very informative post. Thanks and congratulations on the zero.
Age at DX 57
5-18-07 PSA 7.7
5-06-08 PSA 4.6  8% free psa, but stable
10-23-08 PSA 5.65 4% free psa
11-04-08 biopsy
11-11-08 2 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 3+3  6  stage t1c / post-op 3+4  7  stage t2c
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci RRP 01-09-09
Catheter removed 1-15-09
Pathology Report says it's gone!
First Post-op PSA due 2-17-09


mvesr
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   Posted 2/14/2009 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi

Great news on the zero. Hope you have a lifetime of them

Mika
age at dx 54 now 56
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
Tossed the pads this spring
ED still a problem
Got a shot last week and it was great
A year an a half of zero's
 


JerseyG
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   Posted 2/19/2009 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Kcragman, this is an interesting post. Your comment about the six month PSA test got me thinking about my six month PSA test which is coming up the first week in March. It's taken on an entirely new meaning.
 
This is based on your doctor's statement that a zero PSA at six month means there're only a 10% chance of dying from PC -regardless of age. I'm interpreting zero to mean undetectable. I'm only 44 yrs old and would like to hang around for a long while for my own personal girl's soccer team (three daughters) I'm gonna have all kind of stress over this next PSA test. But I thank you for that info. Good stuff.

Age now 44 (43 when dx)
 
Pre-op PSA:  0.9
Biopsy: 3/12 cores pos  20% 30% 50%
Gleason 3+3=6
Robotic RP:   Aug 08 1 day hospital stay, cath out on 8th day.
Post Surgery Pathology Report: Gleason 6, pT2c, tumor 10% contained in prostate gland, all margins negative. Negative lymph nodes
Post Op PSA: Dec 08 <0.1


kcragman
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   Posted 2/20/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
JerseyG:

My guy said that was based on his own stats, so I hope other doctors are having the same results. And yes, zero means undetectable. I think most of us actually get .1's or .4's which are as low as the testers will go - which means undetectable.

I see you are a T2 and Gleason 6, so you started in a better category than I did. Given that plus negative margins, I would think you should be in pretty good shape.

Let us know how your 6-month check up goes, and I certainly wish you all the best.
kcragman
Age: 53; 52 at DX
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb 2008: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
cancerous and the 6th was suspect.
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.
Feb 2009: PSA at 9 months was undetectable.


kcragman
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   Posted 5/17/2009 6:11 AM (GMT -6)   
I am bumping this up for any high risk guys who may have missed it, or just recently joined.

kcragman
Age: 53; 52 at DX
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb 2008: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
cancerous and the 6th was suspect.
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.
Feb 2009: PSA at 9 months was undetectable.
May 2009: PSA at 12 months was undectable.


Gunner59
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   Posted 5/17/2009 6:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Congrats on another Zero and thank you for your informative post. Here's wishing you a lifetime of Big Fat Zero's!

Ralph
Age 48 at diagnosis
3 Jul 08 PSA 27.21
Biopsy positive 3+3=6 on 9 of 24 punches
Bone scan clear
22 Sep 08 Laproscopic Radical Prostatectomy and bilateral pelvic Lymphadenectomy
Gleason 3+4=7 after prostate removal, lymph nodes clear
Stage T2B
PSA at 3 months=undetectable
6 month PSA still 0


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 5/18/2009 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Great post! Very refreshing to come back to after a weekend away! Congrats on your zero and thanks again for sharing!
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Oct. 10, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

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