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Davisal
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   Posted 2/19/2009 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I am six months out from RP via Davinci method and natural erections still have not occurred.  I have tried 100mg Viagra pills early on with no success and would now like to experiment with Viagra again and try the others.  My BCBS insurance does not cover any of the pills, so I have to buy/pay out of my pocket.
 
Are the online stores, such as All Day Chemist, safe to buy these pills via credit card and phone call?
 
Are the pills from the online stores the real brand name product or are they a home brewed look alike version?
 
What is a good and safe online store in which to make these purchases via phone order and credit card?
 
BTW, yes I have the Osbon pump and it gets it up, but it quickly fades.
 
Thanks for any info.
 
Dave
aka Davisal
Central Florida
 
 

hb2006
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   Posted 2/19/2009 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi

I am using the Levitra pills from alldaychemist and they work just as well, if not better than the US ones. They are manufactured by Indian/off shore Pharmacy companies that are as big as, if not larger than companies in the US. I think you will hear the same experience from others on this forum.

My order took two weeks exactly from the time I placed it online but I did have to sign for the package. You will get as least 3 emails on the status of your order as it is processed.

 


Age 60
PSA 2007 4.1
PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative
Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00
PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00


James C.
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I also use alldaychemist. Your selection will be limited to the generic versions of Viagra (sildenafil citrate) and Levitra (vardenafil) if you live in the USA. I have had no problems and they are as strong and effective as the name brand ones. The generics are manufactured in the same plants and by the same companies that make and import many of our current generic drugs in the USA. The purchase method is the same as any method used inside the US, using the same secure technology and methods. Use of a credit card is secure and easy to use. I myself would not buy any drugs from any overseas company but alldaychemist, because they have been proven safe and secure by so many people here. There are some Canadian companies, but I have not experience with them. The shipping cost is $24.95 for any sized order, however, and takes 2 to 3 weeks, requires a signature on delivery and once in a while are intercepted by US Customs. In case they are, Allday will ship another order right out to you. It is my understanding that when Customs stop it, they send a notice asking if you can certify special need, and they either destroy or return the drugs if no special allowances are made. However, the number of guys on this forum who buy them under these circumstances speak for itself.

Keep using the Osbon, results or not, and even use a penis ring in conjunction with it. The reason the erection fades quickly is the veinous valves inside the penis aren't getting the singals from the erectile nerves yet to tell them to close and hold the blood in. Use of pump and drugs, even injections will help rehab and train the body and mind to reconnect and stimulates the nerve healing and regrowth. Good luck in your continuing rehab.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


Bootheel
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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 300
   Posted 2/19/2009 11:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree with James also about alldaychemist. I have been using their generic viagra for a year. I am finally starting to respond from them. So be patient. Don't expect to have an instant erection from them. Some do but I think that is an exception, not the rule.
Age 65
Diagnosed 10/12/07
PSA 6.3
Biopsy 18 core samples, 2 positive <5%
Stage T1a Gleason 6 (3+3)
LRP  1/29/08
Post-op
Gleason 7 (3+4)
1 positive margin (.3cm)
T2C
4/16/08- Started Bi-mix injections 
5/15/08- 1st Post-Op PSA 0.07 Undetectable
8/11/08 -2nd Post-OP PSA 0.02 Undetectable
8/15/08- No more pads as of today  Whoopee!!!
11/13/08- 3rd post-op PSA 0.02 Undetectable


Davisal
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:31 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks for the information and explanations.

It sounds like the ADC is the right choice.

When using the pump, with a few pump up/let downs, gradually working up, full size can be achieved but it quickly fades once pump is removed.  I have tried using the rubber rings and they do help maintain the erection, but are a bit uncomfortable and I noticed a large bulge at the base and bottom of the penis.  That scared me.  The bulge is obviously accummalated blood and if pressed, you can feel it forcing the blood out of the penis.  Is having that bulge dangerous or any indication of problems?

Thanks, Dave 

 


LV-TX
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
James or others...does ADC require a copy of the Rx from the doctor directly or can it be provided via fax, email or regular mail. I know the Canadian pharmacy I was looking into requires that it be mailed to them. And thanks for the update about the quality of the generic form from ADC...it has been a concern...don't want to be popping something in my mouth that could cause other issues.
You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal-Gland 38 cc
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral (Perineural Invasion present at base) - Gleason (3+3) 6  Stage T1C
August 23 - Bone Scan - Hips, Spine and ribs marked uptake - X-Ray showed clear -Hooray
Sept 9 2nd DRE - questionable - TRUS...shadow in base - Gland now 41 cc
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (4+3) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
4 tumors in prostate - largest being 6 cm 
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
       3 month Jan 2009 .06


James C.
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
David, the uncomfortable feeling is just part of the process we have to put up with while using pumps, rings, etc. Sorry, it is normal and comes with the territory. The use of the pump and rings are very important though, more so than any discomfort from it. The bulge at the base is a common problem, it is for me at least. The opening of the pump is such that it allows other parts of the male anatomy to be pulled in. In this case, I bet its not blood. but scrotal tissue and abdominal fat layers. The fact that you can press on it and it goes back outside the ring is exactly what happens to me. The bulge itself isn't dangerous, unless maybe you have it in the ring during intercourse, then some bruising could happen. More likely it would be pressed back out of the ring. When I have this, I usually just press it back outside, but I also will lose a little of the erection because of it. so it's a trade off. I bet the forcing the blood out feeling is the tissue being pressed back out instead. Some pumps come with smaller diameter openings or inserts that will close the opening down, but they then cause interference with placing and rolling off the rings in some models. Your Osbon may have come with a couple different sized reducers for the opening, so if it did, experiment to see if one works better. In any case, do continue using the pump and if you want to help things along even more, use a ring at least once a day to hold the blood in to expand the tissue and keep it limbered and able to expand easily. I do this myself by placing the ring on before my morning shower and removing after. This, combined with the usual pumping without rings will do your penis-and rehab-a world of good... smilewinkgrin
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


James C.
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   Posted 2/19/2009 11:50 AM (GMT -6)   
LV, I had a prescription but never used it. On the site , when ordering, there is an area where you are asked to put your doctors info and prescription info, and it contains a default doctors data- theirs, I suppose,. I just used their info and it went through just fine. No problems with any of my 3 orders, usuing their doctor info.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


LV-TX
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   Posted 2/19/2009 12:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks James...will definitely look into that
You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal-Gland 38 cc
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral (Perineural Invasion present at base) - Gleason (3+3) 6  Stage T1C
August 23 - Bone Scan - Hips, Spine and ribs marked uptake - X-Ray showed clear -Hooray
Sept 9 2nd DRE - questionable - TRUS...shadow in base - Gland now 41 cc
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (4+3) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
4 tumors in prostate - largest being 6 cm 
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
       3 month Jan 2009 .06


BillyMac
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   Posted 2/19/2009 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Davisal,
James has given an excellent description of the use of the vacuum device. He usually includes a reference to the pubic hair as well. This is the cause of quite some discomfort during removal of the ring as the hair can entangle in it. It is best to trim the hair to under 1/2" (where else on the net can you get such invaluable information). shocked
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07
4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
PSA August 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
Post-op pathology rechecked by new lab:
Gleason downgraded to 4+3=7
Focal extension comprised of grade 3 cells
PSA September 08 <0.01 (new lab)
PSA February 09 <0.01


Davisal
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   Posted 2/19/2009 6:55 PM (GMT -6)   

Yes, very good and invaluable information has been learned here and you are correct, where else can you ask these questions and get good fact based and frank answers to the embarrassing questions and sensitive issues.  It does help one to learn and understand when reading of other's symptoms and experiences.

I am six months out and yet to have "normal" sex with my wife.  So far, the pills, pump, rubber rings, etc. just can't maintain sufficiently to allow "it" to happen.  Maybe someday.  I sure do look forward to that event and is why I am wanting to try each of the different pills to see if anything works.

From everyone's experience, is there any one of the pills that seems to work better than the others?  I did try the 100mg Viagra's early on and saw no improvement at that time.  Haven't tried them again.  At my local Publix pharmacy those are about $10.50 each pill.  What is the cost from the ADC?

The longer lasting "weekend pill" sounds like it would be better, if it would work.  Cost?

Thanks to all,  Dave


BillyMac
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   Posted 2/19/2009 8:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Dave,
The weekend pill is generic Cialis (active ingredient 20 mg Tadalafil). Because of a patent stranglehold by Eli Lilly, Tadalafil is not available for import into the US. If it were cost is 75 cents per pill. Generic Viagra and generic Levitra are available. Viagra (Sidenafil Citrate) is "The Blue Pill" and is available from 56 cents a pill.
Bill

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 2/19/2009 6:17:21 PM (GMT-7)


CPA
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   Posted 2/19/2009 9:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Greetings, Dave.  I believe I paid about $1.50 per pill for the generic Levitra from ADC.  It works fine and took about two weeks to receive.  I haven't tried any of the others.  David

Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


hb2006
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Total Posts : 299
   Posted 2/20/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   

None of the ED pills made me hard enough for sex at six months. It was the same with the pump. But when I tried Caverject injections, that worked right away. And when the Caverject disappeared, I was switched to Edex by my pharmacy mail order. Both worked fine except for the alprostadil pain. So at nine months, my urologist gave me a script for Trimix which has worked fine with no pain. The Trimix was at the lowest dose prescribed.

I still take both Viagra or Levitra and my noctural erections are getting harder all the time. I expect to be off the Trimix in about 6 months.


Age 60
PSA 2007 4.1
PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative
Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00
PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00


Davisal
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 15
   Posted 2/20/2009 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
$.50 - $1.50 per pill sure is better than the $10.50 per pill I was quoted at my local pharmacy.  I need to place an order to ADC as soon as possible as I want to try the pills again.
 
I can tell I have alot to learn as I have never heard of Caverject or Edex and know very little about tri-mix.  I suspect my Dr. will have me try one of those injectable solutions at my next visit.
 
Of the two available pills (Viagra and Levitra), is one any better than the other?  I see the active ingredient is different.  How do they work in the body?
 
Thanks, Dave
 
 

sandstorm
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Total Posts : 194
   Posted 2/20/2009 6:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Davisal, I'll be joining you shortly in ordering the Levitra from ADC. The Viagra made no difference for me at 6 weeks post-op. I just recieved my Tri-mix in the mail and will inject the first dose tomorrow. Urologist told me alprostadil pain was a common side affect so after my bad experience on the 17th he lowered my first few doses from .2cc to .05cc of the Tri-mix.

Good luck to you Dave!
Age at DX 57
5-18-07 PSA 7.7
5-06-08 PSA 4.6  8% free psa, but stable
10-23-08 PSA 5.65 4% free psa
11-04-08 biopsy
11-11-08 2 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 3+3  6  stage t1c / post-op 3+4  7  stage t2c
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci RRP 01-09-09
Catheter removed 1-15-09
Pathology Report says it's gone!
First Post-op PSA due 2-17-09


James C.
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   Posted 2/20/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
David, the pills each react individually, no two alike. Heard that before, haven't you? tongue Seriously, ED rehab is like anything else, try the choices and find the one that works best. Some people will react well with Viagra, some Levitra and some Cialis. One approach might be to buy a smaller amount of each and see. Also, I'm posting a link here to help you learn some of the detials of ED recovery and some of the problems and methods used, and available. A good all around primer

www.phoenix5.org/sexaids.html
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


James186282
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   Posted 2/21/2009 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hopefully this won't start a flame war but....

I don't know about All Day Chemist but I would like to put in one "con" vote for these internet drugstores. I tried going this route and bought some internet "Levitra." The website asked me a few questions and the internet "doctor" OKed my purchase in about 1/1000th of a second.

I got the tablets. Took one and it gave me an erection. It also made my heart start pounding like crazy and my face turning several colors I didn't think possible. My eyes were bugging out and it wasn't sexual at all... All in all I feel fortunate that I didn't have a stroke. Or maybe I did but it wasn't strong enough to kill or cripple me that time.

Later on I talked to my doctor and she suggested that there was no way of knowing what was really in that pill. But that it might have been one of the herbals that cause erections by raising blood pressure. Since I'm on BP meds this is a seriously stupid combo.

Maybe some of you didn't see the 60 minutes piece? Where they bought large supplies of "Viagra" from well known internet "pharmacies?" Some had the real drug. Many were sheetrock. A few were close in dose. Many more were all over the place. Some were clean and others were contaminated with things not intended to be in a Viagra tablet. Its a total crapshoot in my opinion. And for what? To save a few bucks? What makes this THAT different from buying drugs from some shady guy on the corner of Lakestreet at 3AM?

And please don't call it "Generic" The patents for Viagra are not due for a while yet. Some countries have laws that allow them to ignore US law but not when they are shipped to the US. Its still illegal "dope" on some level. Does the FDA and DEA care? They seem to blow it off for now but who knows when that will stop?

BTW I know that some people are going to Canada and getting appointments with real doctors and buying drugs up there from legit pharmacies. I'm not talking about that kind of thing here.

CPA
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   Posted 2/21/2009 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   

Greetings, everyone.  James, I tend to agree with you regarding mail order pharmacies in general.  However, I do order from ADC and ADC only and that is because of the experience of the guys on this forum over many years in dealing with ADC.  By the way, if you order from ADC you will be bombarded - I mean literally up to 50 messages a day in your email from all kinds of websites wanting you to buy your drugs from them.  Some are to places on the web you don't want to go.  Just delete them in mass. 

I talked to my doctor about ordering from ADC and he gave me the same warnings that their experience in mail order drugs is that you don't always get the medicine you are ordering.  He also went on to say that if I ordered it from ADC and it worked then that is what he would do.  He gave me a prescription to use with ADC although I didn't need it when I actually ordered. 

In summary, I too would be very reluctant to order online.  Only the good experience of many, many of our brothers on this website convinced me that ADC was an acceptable alternative to the high prices at the pharmacy.

Dave, regarding which is best I think it is up to you and your doctor.  My doc told me that he prefers Cialis or Levitra (in that order) and as a last resort Viagara.  Cialis and Levitra are similar in how they work and tend to stay in your body a little longer.  Since at least some of what you are trying to do is to rehabilitate your ability to have erections, this is preferable to other drugs like Viagara that simply try to get you an erection within an hour of taking the pill. 

For me personally, my doc gave me samples of both Cialis and Levitra.  Both worked fine and I ordered the generic Levitra from ADC because the generic Cialis is not allowed to be shipped to the USA due to current patents.  It has worked fine and I tend to take it 2 times a week just before I go to bed.  If I take it anytime before I am going to bed, I have the face flushing and stuffy nose that many guys tend to get with these drugs.  By the way, this is true whether using the drugs from ADC or the samples from my doc.  Both give me the same side effects but I don't know I have a stuffy nose or flushed face if I am asleep (which I am when I take it right before bed). 

Probably more than you wanted but trust it helps.  David


Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


James C.
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   Posted 2/21/2009 11:58 AM (GMT -6)   
James, as CPA says, ADC is the only internet store I would buy from. We have the benefit of years of ordering experience by dozens of guys here with them and I haven't read or heard of a single case where they got or even suspected they got nothing but the genuine article. I agree with your broad 'internet drug stores" warning statement, but have to disagree with ADC being included in that category. Time and experience has proven them trustworthy.

CPA, I have ordered 3 times from ADC and have not had any extra spam email resulting in it. I wonder if you may have had your email address grabbed by a spam robot while searching or surfing the net at the same time. There's some very advanced search bots out there that can grab your email address. :-)
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


Ziggy9
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   Posted 2/21/2009 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
As far as getting spam from ordering from ADC, just use a web based email address not your primary one. In fact when ordering any merchandise from anywhere I suggest such for all. Like hotmail, yahoo, gmail...It's advantageous to always have a spam trap email addy available anyway.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


Tobmeister
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   Posted 2/21/2009 2:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey guys,

Glad somebody started this post as I was getting ready to update my experience on ordering from ADC from previous post.

I received my generic cialis Thursday! It works great - it's definitely the real thing.

All I did was send them back an email telling them I would not "consume" the pill within U.S. So I drive down to Mexico or up to Canada to take it and then drive back - no big deal. devil

Anyway they came via registered mail in less than 3 weeks from order date!
Diagnosed 11/12/2008 at age 51
PSA 2006 - 2.8, 2007 3.06, 2008 4.6 (remember the rate of increase is as important as the level), PSA free 8.7%
Family history - brother and uncle (remember family history is very important)
Gleason score 7 (4+3); 6 out of 19 cores sampled positive for cancer; perineural invasion present
Bone scan and CT scan both negative
Prostate mildly enlarged, DRE negative
DaVinci radical prostatectomy 12/30/2008 - left side nerves spared
Catheter removed 1/15/09 - no pain!

Post operative results:
Pathologic stage - T3aN0Mx
Post surgery biopsy - Bladder neck margin negative, lymph nodes negative, specimen confined, extracapsular extension positive, perineural invasion positive, seminal vesicle invasion negative, all margins negative, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6.

No incontinence problem within 1-2 weeks after catheter removal
1st post op PSA scheduled for 4/16/09

"Pick a good doctor and say your prayers"


Jstars
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   Posted 2/22/2009 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey HB2006,

Thanks very much for that little nugget of information about ADC not actually requiring a prescription from your Doc.

I was wondering how I would get my Uro to consent to using ADC instead of say, CVS and Medco at 6-10 times the cost.
(CVS i see is $75 for SIX 20 mg Levitra - whew - but of course some co-pay by you is your cost-- which could really add up if you are buying say, 2-3 times that amount per month.

Right now ADC is doing a matching number of free pills for each order -- so it is around a dollar and change per 20 mg Levitra - not bad.

jim
Age 58, 192lbs, 6'4", 57 at DX, PSA Aug2008 7 4 ... June2007 4.7 (BPH + LUTS)
Biopsy Nov2008 1 of 12 cores 5%, Gleason 3+3 - Sona showed 140+ ml (110 grams) prostate size.
Prostate way too big for any Rad or Seed treatment or even trying to shrink.
open RP surgery 02/03/9, Nerve sparing both sides, 1 day in hospital,
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report - All margins clear - No Invasive spread - no change in Gleason score.
Cath out on 2/18/9, passed a STONE within hours. To be analyzed by doc.


biker90
Veteran Member


Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1464
   Posted 2/23/2009 12:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Folks,

I have used Viagra substitute (notice I didn't say "generic" although that's what I usually call it) for nearly 3 years and never had any problem with it. I was on Levitra (the real expensive kind) before I got cancer. ADC has been consistent both in the quality of the drug and in their delivery times and cost. Never had any problems with them.

I don't blame docs for bad mouthing foreign drug substitutes because there certainly have been bad results with them. However, until insurance companys view ED recovery as a result of cancer treatment and not strictly as a recreational drug and the drug companies stop their insane ripoffs, I will do whatever I need to do to persevere...

Jim
Age 74. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 7/17/08 0.00. 
PSA on 1/28/09 - 0.02
Lung cancer dxed on 5/16/08.  Surgery on 6/25/08  T1N1M0 - Stage IIA  Finished 4 cycles of chemo on 11/7/08.
CT scan on 12/2/08 - in remission!!!
Next scan on 2/26/09.
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."


Ralph Alfalfa
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 469
   Posted 2/23/2009 12:29 AM (GMT -6)   

Amen,Jim.

 

Starting to believe this is the way to go.  $80.00 bucks for six pills is insane.

Bob


 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7 T1c
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas

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