VED device after non-nerve sparing surgery

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Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 2/26/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone had success using a VED after having non-nerve sparing surgery. If so, which device is it. I appreciate your input.
Age: 67
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
PSA 3.5 free PSA 11%
Dx 12/30/08
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed on Feb 9th
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
Post op Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams
size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
10-20% involved
Bilateral
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx
Negative margins
Lymph nodes: not dissected
seminal vesicles clean


James C.
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   Posted 2/26/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Ed, I suppose 99% of the guys who try VED's have success with them. They may not be that satisfied with that success and the results, but they do have success.. They get an erection, which can usually be kept erect with the use of restricting rings. The type or cost of the pump isn't really a factor, as they all do one thing well, which is to produce a vacuum on the penis, which draws blood into the penis. If the veinous valves aren't working, either from lack of use, or lack of signal from the erectile nerves (which you don't have, since you has non- nerve sparing), then the rings will do the job. The biggest complaint is that with a 'normal', pill induced or injection induced erection, the erection goes back into the abdomen, which provides a more rigid penis, whereas the pump erection stops at the ring, which leaves a soft swivel point at the body. A good pump, one that I have recommend to guys here many times, and which I haven't had any complaints back about is at the link listed below. It contains the pump and an assortment of different sized rings. Inexpensive, but medially safe and gives the same results as the $550 jobs.

www.vitalitymedical.com/Product/Encore-Impo-Aid-Manual-Vacuum-Erection-Device-OTC-44010001.html

Hope this helps answer your question.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


hb2006
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 299
   Posted 2/26/2009 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Ed, I would agree with James. Any pump will make you hard but retaining it after you have pumped up, is the difficulty. I used one from two weeks after surgery until about six months, which is when I started with the injections. I also was on daily pill medication and continue with Levitra.

Make sure that you shave if you are really hairy down there and you may have to use more than one ring. I did, to stay hard enough for penetration. I threw the pump away once I went to Trimix.
Age 60
PSA 2007 4.1
PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative
Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00
PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00


Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 2/26/2009 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks James.
Age: 67
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
PSA 3.5 free PSA 11%
Dx 12/30/08
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed on Feb 9th
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
Post op Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams
size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
10-20% involved
Bilateral
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx
Negative margins
Lymph nodes: not dissected
seminal vesicles clean

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