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MWA44
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   Posted 3/19/2009 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Age 65 in another two months and I'm not a happy camper about finding out that I supposably have Prostate cancer.  Need your help and advice.
 
This Monday I got my tests back and they said I tested positive and my psa had jumped from 3.5 to 4.7 in just a little over three weeks.  First, does that mean it is possibly an aggressive cancer?
 
My psa was 2.75 in early January and then went to 3.75. late February.  I am going in for my biopsy and untra sound tommorrow where I understand there will be a "gleason" rating after that.  I have to do an enema in the morning. Is the biopsy painful and why do they prescribe an antibiotic? Hate that because I love milk and diet cokes, now I can't have any for 5 days.  Hopefully I won't have to surrender my several beers...har har.
 
This has really shocked me and since I have no family and live alone...I don't really have a close person to turn to.  There is my cat but I don't think she will have any imput.
 
I would appreciate any info that you gentlemen could give me. I'm on pins and needles.
 
William

don826
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   Posted 3/19/2009 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi William,

Don't panic until you see the biposy. An inflammation or infection can cause the jump in PSA. The biopsy is not that rough. You should get a shot of lidocaine to deaden the area somewhat. It feels like someone is thumping on your perineum when the needle fires. Not painful at all. I think the thought of it is worse than the actual procedure. The enema and the antibiotic are to prevent infection. The rectal wall is penetrated and fecal matter can cause an infection at the site of the penetration. You may also have some blood in your urine and/or stool after the procedure. Clears up fairly quickly.

You should be able to drive yourself home from the procedure as well but the doctor will tell you not to do so. This is a CYA thing for him and you. Best to take a cab to and from if you cannot get a friend to take you. I don't think I would trust the cat to drive.

William, good luck and I hope it all comes back negative.

Take care,
Don
Diagnosed 04/10/08 Age 58 at the time
Gleason 4 + 3
DRE palpable tumor on left side
100% of 12 cores positive for PCa range 35% to 85%
Bone scan clear and chest x ray clear
CT scan shows potential lymph node involvement in pelvic region
Started Casodex on May 2 and stopped on June 1, 2008
Lupron injection on May 15 and every four months for next two years
Started IMRT/IGRT on July 10, 2008. 45 treatments scheduled
First 25 to be full pelvic for a total dose of 45 Gray to lymph nodes.
Last 20 to prostate only. Total dose to prostate 81 Gray.
Completed IMRT/IGRT 09/11/08.
PSA 02/08 21.5 at diagnosis
PSA 07/08 .82 after 8 wks of hormones
PSA 10/08 .642 one month after completion of IMRT, 6 months hormone
 
 
 
 


Ziggy9
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   Posted 3/19/2009 5:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I didn't find the biopsy that painful more uncomfortable but some do. Your psa scores aren't that high and may or may not mean cancer that's why you need the biopsy. An antibiotic is routinely prescribed because needles are going through your rectum to your prostate and with and such bodily invasion an infection is always a possibility but rare. I don't know why you can't have milk or diet cokes afterward. I never had that said to me. I love my coke zero btw. Good luck hopefully your biopsy will be negative.. If not read all the posts here to best educate yourself and ask any question you can think of. If you do have cancer take your time in deciding your next option for there are many and new studies coming out literally by the day... good luck.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


James C.
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   Posted 3/19/2009 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
William, welcome to the Forum. Hate to see you here, but glad you came to us for support and advice.

You will probably get lots of answers shortly, so I'll begin with a little info. . Do you have cancer? Too early to tell, but the biopsy will tell, most likely. After you get the results then you will have enough info to know if it is aggressive or not, usually. The biopsy is an experience that is different for each man here. Some had pain, some none, some a degree of something between the two. I suggest you discuss with your doc the use of plenty of numbing meds. before and even the availability of light sedation. The antibiotic is given because the biopsy is taken thru the wall of your colon, so they give it to reduce the risk of infections. Feces and urine are normally sterile while the body, so the infection risk isn't very high. As you have no family to help, the biopsy isn't gonna be that big a deal, usually and you shouldn't need any soecial treatment. Expect to have some amount of pain or discomfort, along with blood in the urine, feces and ejaculate for a while. All these are normal and can last up to a month afterwards, or even more in slow healers..

I hope I have answered some of your questions, and I hope you stay around here and let us know the results when you get them. Be sure to ask for a paper copy of your biopsy report so you can tell us in detail what is says, and we can share our experiences with you.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months


Ziggy9
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   Posted 3/19/2009 5:33 PM (GMT -6)   
PS I drove myself to and back. Unless you're sedated you won't need a driver IMO
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25380
   Posted 3/19/2009 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello and welcome here, William. For most men, the biopsy isn't too bad an experience, nothing one would choose to do, but sounds like its needed in your case. Hopefully it will come back cancer free. I had 3 biopsies altogether, and only with one of them did I feel I needed a driver, and my youngest son accomadated his dad.

Unless your doctor has told you differently, I don't understand why you can't have your milk and soda after.

I wish you all the best, and will be looking for your results after your tests are completed.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


MWA44
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   Posted 3/19/2009 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks fellows:

I appreciate your advice.  I'm just a lone individual with no close family to lean against. Remained home from work for two days to ponder the situration.  First time in 3 years I used a sick day. The no milk and soda was supposably because of the antibotic. 

Hope to hear more from you. One would think that my being a Vietnam Veteran with a lot of combat experience would not be  worried about this.  Problem is, it's an enemy that I can't see.  Then of course I was lucky to came back alive in 69'....unlike some of my buds.

Thanks again, William


Purgatory
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   Posted 3/19/2009 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
William,

Nice to see another Nam Vet here. Did my thing via the Navy in 1970-1971 with VP-17. Left some good friends behind too, know that feeling.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


Ziggy9
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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 981
   Posted 3/19/2009 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
MWA44 said...

Thanks fellows:

I appreciate your advice.  I'm just a lone individual with no close family to lean against. Remained home from work for two days to ponder the situration.  First time in 3 years I used a sick day. The no milk and soda was supposably because of the antibotic. 

Hope to hear more from you. One would think that my being a Vietnam Veteran with a lot of combat experience would not be  worried about this.  Problem is, it's an enemy that I can't see.  Then of course I was lucky to came back alive in 69'....unlike some of my buds.

Thanks again, William

William if you do have Pca make sure you apply to the VA..

 

http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/benefits/herbicide/aono1.htm


Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


MWA44
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   Posted 3/19/2009 6:26 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks Puratory:

And thank your for your service to this country.  We are so fortunate to have been born int the USA.

God speed

Willaim


Ralph Alfalfa
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Total Posts : 469
   Posted 3/19/2009 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
William,
The most uncomfortable part of the biopsy was having the nurse keep patting me on the butt while she held the ultra-sound in place. Other than that, not that bad. As the other folks have stated, be prepared for some blood in the urine, feces, and ejaculate. It will clear up in time. Also, ask the Dr. if he intends to do the ultrasound while he's doing the biopsy. I don't know if all docs do. He should tell you how many samples he will take and, if you're like me, you'll count the firings and be glad that ugly nurse has stopped patting your behind.

Let us know,
Bob
 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7 T1c
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci Jan. 19th, No lymph node involvement, all margins clear.
 8 week PSa <0.01
 Gleason downgraded to (3+4)7


Purgatory
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   Posted 3/19/2009 9:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks William, for your valiant service too during a way too unpopular war. Do you know I am still more bothered after all these years about how I was treated once I got home from Nam and went to college, then I did of being there. The way a lot of my fellow college students treated me and the other young vets, you would think we were demons. Like many others, I had a very low lottery number. Didn't want to be drafted into the army and sent to Nam, so I joined the Navy like my lifer father, and was sent there anyway! Such were the days.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


John T
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   Posted 3/20/2009 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
William,
Welcome home from a former grunt. With your age and low PSA it is unlikey that you have PC. The biopsy is no big deal, hurts for about 10 min and a dull pain for about 4 hours. Take a viocodine before, it really helps and won't promote bleeding. Next day you can play golf or do anything else. This is the first I heard of no coke and milk and I've had 13 biopsies. I don't think there is anything in coke or milk that would hurt you.
If you do find out that you have PC there are plenty of options are your chances of dying from it in 10-15 years, are very unlikely, a much better chance than you had in Nam.
Be sure to apply for VA benfits as prostate cancer is presumptive if you served in Nam. Stay on this forum as it contains a lot of good information.
JohnT

64 years old.

I had an initial PSA test in 1999 of 4.4. PSA increased every 6 months reaching 40 in 5-08. PSA free ranged from 16% to 10%. Over this time period I had a total of 13 biopsies and an endorectal MRIS all negative and have seen doctors at Long Beach, UCLA, UCSF and UCI. DX has always been BPH and continue to get biopsies every year.

In 10-08 I had a 25 core biopsy that showed 2 cores positive, gleason 6 at less than 5%. Surgery was recommended and I was in the process of interviewing surgeons when my wife's oncologist recommended I get a 2nd opinion from a prostate oncologist.

I saw Dr Sholtz, in Marina Del Rey, and he said that the path reports indicated no tumor, but indolant cancer clusters that didn't need any treatment. He was concerned that my PSA history indicated that I had a large amount of PC somewhere that had yet to be uncovered and put me through several more tests.

A color doppler targeted biopsy in 11-08 found a large tumor in the transition zone, gleason 6 and 7. Because of my high PSA Dr. suspected lymph node involvement, 30% chance, and sent me to Holland for a Combidex MRI, even though bone and CT scans were clear.

Combidex MRI showed clear lymph nodes and a 2,5 cm tumor in the anterior. I was his 1st patient to come up clear on the Combidex which has a 96% accuracy,

I've been on a no meat and dairy diet since 12-08 and PSA reduce to 30 while I awaited the Combidex MRI.

The location of the tumor in the anterior apex next to the urethea makes a good surgical margin very unlikely. Currently on Casodex and Proscar for 8 weeks to shrink my 60 mm prostate. Treatment will be seeds followed by 5 weeks of IMRT while continuing on Casodex and Proscar. So far no side affects from the Casodex.

JohnT


MWA44
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Date Joined Mar 2009
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   Posted 3/20/2009 7:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Again, thanks gentlemen:

Yea, I did the biopsy today and most of them were not painful but about 4 or 5 were a little painful.  Total of 12 done. No news of course....the usual 8 to 10 day lab result. Had to be the first time in my life I was secured in a room with two men handling my butt. No, don't go there.

I will give the results as soon as I find out something. I do know that my rear end is sore tonight. Sort of a strange feeling. The three vodkas I had prior to finally eating something helped....just hope it doesn't effect the antiboitics. What the hell.

Off to bed,
William

Post Edited (MWA44) : 3/22/2009 2:18:09 PM (GMT-6)


CPA
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 3/20/2009 8:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Greetings, William.  Glad it went well - and trust you will receive a good report.  By the way, I too had a fairly low lottery number and that combined with lousy grades in college led me to join the Air Force.  Ended up at U-Tapao AB in Thailand right at the end of the war. Keep us posted when you get results. David

Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


Jim B
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   Posted 3/20/2009 8:23 PM (GMT -6)   
William,

Just like everyone else, I want to welcome you here but wish you didn't have to be here. Glad to see the biopsy was tolerable. I know the next several days waiting for your results will be difficult, but hang in there. You can't change what the results will be but you can start finding out more about what to do with the results. Don't be shy about asking very pointed questions of your doctor (not that I think any vet would be shy about asking questions..I'm retired Air Force), and don't be concerned about getting second opinions. Take the time to really explore your options. If it ends up that you do have prostate cancer, the only good thing is that it really is slow growing so you don't have to make any snap decisions. You have time to ask questions and you have time to clarify the answers you receive. I've only been a member of this forum about a week but already I'm convinced that you can really get some great information here. Wish I had joined when I was first diagnosed over four years ago. Hang in there.

Jim B

Purgatory
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   Posted 3/20/2009 8:43 PM (GMT -6)   
CPA,

We use to fly our planes into U-Tapao, Thailand anytime it was too "hot" to fly into Cam Ram Bay, Nam. Been there many times back in the day. We were in the Navy's P-3 Orions, would stop in to refuel before heading back out to the South China Sea.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


RBinCountry
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 270
   Posted 3/20/2009 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I guess this disease strikes a lot of us veterans - a lot of us are right at that age. I hope yours is something other than cancer. If it is cancer, your PSA isn't that high so chances are you caught it early and will have several treatment options. Know this - even if it is cancer, there is a bunch of us out here traveling down the same road and - you will be fine! As my doctor told me, I will most likely die of something else - not prostate cancer. I am not being cavalier, just stating with all the treatments today most of those catching it reasonably early will continue on.

You have the opportunity, while waiting on the results, to do some good reading on the subject. There are some great connections from this web site. Having a lot of information helps to ease the anxiety. We are hopeful for good news for you!

RB
Age 61 (now 62)
Original data - pre-operation
PSA: 5.1
T1C clinical diagnosis, Needle biopsy - 10 cores, Gleason 7 = 3+4 in 1 core (40%), 7 cores Gleason 6 = 3+3 ranging from 5% to 12%
All scans negative
Lupron administered 4/9/2008 for 4 months (with idea I would undergo external beam radiation followed by seed implants - then I changed my mind).
Robotic DiVinci surgery - Dr. Fagin (Austin) May 19th
Post operative - pathology
pT2c NX MX
Gleason 3+4
Margins - negative
Extraprostatic extension - negative
seminal vesicle invasion - uninvolved
1st Post PSA <.04
2nd Post PSA <.01 10/30/2008


jerseycity
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   Posted 3/21/2009 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   

like everyone else here to confirm biopsy no big deal. Make sure you get a lidocen shot. All you really feel is some compression but the sound of the device used is somewhat daunting. Listien to lots of Springsteen and Neil Young and you feel better already.

USAF  1964-68.


 3-17- 8 went to Bruce Springsteen concert , great time
3-18-8 routine exam
3-19 doctor called said psa was elevated
what's a psa?
referred to Uro, had several more blood tests.
PSA steady at 4.75
biopsy  June 08 , 12 cores, 4 on left confirmed , right clear
gleason 3 + 3 T1c
research time.
decieded on open RP, Head of Uro  is my Doctor
Surgery done 10-1-8 by Dr See at Frodoret Hospital in Milwaukee
Cathater out 10-13 no problems
Post op,  organ confined, gleason up to 4 + 3, all clear margins
T2c 20% volume, very good outcome I feel
Incontinent and ED.  Time will tell, was told all nerves  saved.
back to work 11-5-8.
 
Rich man in a poor mans shirt.


MWA44
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   Posted 3/21/2009 6:30 PM (GMT -6)   
You guys are great. I commend you for taking the time to listen to a stranger.
Yea, the butt is a little better today. Feel like I got racked in a strange place after a mikey was given to me....not really.

To you vets, I was a ground pounder,"grunt" with the 82 Airborne Division in the Iron Triangle....Hobo woods, Cambodia border, etc. Rose to the astounding rank of corporal.....and somehow survived. darn, I hate war and the effects it has on soldiers that return. That's all I've got to say about that.

Anyway, looking "forward" to the results. Then I will just have to see how the cards are dealt.

Thanks again, you are a stand up and sharing group of men.

William

Purgatory
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   Posted 3/21/2009 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
William,

I agree with you, I hate wars too, and when I think back that I had just turned 18 when I was over there, what a horrible introduction to the world and to its humanity. Spent a little time at Bethesda Naval Hospital in 1971, I can remember ward after ward of all the poor guys that were amputees, missing anything from one to four limbs, many as young as I was at the time. It was shocking then, and shocking now. Glad you survived, you were really in the "shi*" as they use to say. In our patrol squadron, there really wasn't any chance of getting shot, not flying 300' over the South China Sea, it was trying to stay awake for the 12-14 hour missions, just staring at the ocean below for anything that moved! lol. Good luck to you brother.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 3/21/2009 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Ohio State: A wordsmith? You really crack me up, never been called that before. My two published novels are still sold at places like Amazon, Barnes & Noble online, etc. I am hoping the 3rd one will be published before the end of this year, but many publishers are backing off new titles due to the economy.

Oil business, that is something I can respect. Tough business to supply what we all use, bet you could tell some stories there.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


Uncle Harley
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Total Posts : 85
   Posted 3/21/2009 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome William, I just got thru playing the biopsy waiting game, not fun. Once you get the results, take your time making any decisions. There's lots of info here to digest. I was starting to make decisions that were totally unnecessary for my current state of PC. Don't make the same mistake that I did. I was & still am so thankful for all the support & information this forum has given me. I'm sure you'll find the same thing. Don't be afraid to ask any questions about anything from all of your new brothers. You're in our prayers.
PSA History
3/99 1.2
3/00 1.04
3/01 1.16
7/02 1.24
2/06 1.59
3/07 1.79
3/08 2.54
8/08 2.3
12 needle prostate biopsy Jan 09
Dx of (1) core adenocarcinoma 20%
All other cores benign
Gleason 3+3 T1C
Currently in Active Surveillence
Age 60


RSteve
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   Posted 3/22/2009 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
RBinCountry said...
I guess this disease strikes a lot of us veterans - a lot of us are right at that age.
I am also a Vietnam veteran, Army, in country 07/68 through 09/69. I was a volunteer on an Agent Orange task force for almost 20 years. The incidence of prostate dysfunction and prostate cancer is extremely high among Agent Orange veterans and, until most of us reached our 60s, was the leading cause of death among Vietnam vets. With increasing age, heart disease and other maladies of aging are skewing the mortality tables.
I've suffered from a chronic prostate condition for almost 40 years; commencing within a year of leaving Vietnam. The V.A., for years, denied any correlation between Agent Orange and prostate illness, but about a decade ago, the statistics became undeniable. Anyone who has prostate dysfunction, including diagnosed prostatitis and, of course, prostate cancer should immediately get to a V.A. hospital.
My non-V.A. urologist says it's a miracle that my prostatic condition hasn't become malignant. The general nature of my prostate is that I typically have from a low level to a raging & painful infection. But, it's a condition that requires constant monitoring and frequent dosages of doxycycline hyclate.
FYI for those who wonder how Agent Orange may have entered their prostate. Much of the water ground troops drank in Vietnam was stored in uncovered, make-shift cisterns. When Agent Orange, consisting of dioxin and vehicle, was sprayed, it was via non-discriminatory application. The planes flew overhead, sprayed the defoliant, and if there was an open water storage unit, Agent Orange was sprayed into it as the spraying plane flew overhead. Of course, it was unintentional, but deadly, nonetheless. The vehicle, for the lack of a better description was an inert liquid plastic. Once the vehicle entered the human body, it settled in the prostate gland, much like a sink trap.

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   Posted 3/22/2009 1:45 PM (GMT -6)   
RSteve:
I am often thought about that since we were around that crap at times. I certainly hope it does not effect you in the future. My best to you and thank you for your service Bro.

Well, what else can freak me out. Yes, the Dr. did tell me after the biopsies that there would be some blood in my urine and poop....and possibly a "little" in my semen. After noticing it in my urine and stool yesterday, this morning it was clear. I figured things were somewhat back to norm. OK, time to call up a lady I knew for a little sexo around noon.

As we were playing around.... Walla, out drips some semen, it looks just like blood, not discolored but bloody. She freaks a bit and asks me what the hell is going on. I explained to her about the procedure I had this Friday. Not too long after that I ejaculated all over my boxers and it looked like I had been stabbed. She and I both freaked. I went and cleaned off and by the time I got back she was excusing herself to the door. I felt terrible and was still shocked about the bloody semen on my boxers. I shoud have never asked anyone to come over but Mr. pecker has his own mind. Sometimes I can just be downright pitiful.

Is this normal? Did any of you guys have a lot of bloody semen two days after the procedure. In all ove my 64 years, that is the first time anything like that has happened. Darmn, I know this is probably because of the procedure but didn't think it would be that much.

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