Cryotherapy ????

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Dirtmover
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 158
   Posted 4/6/2009 11:04 PM (GMT -6)   
i HAVE A FRIEND WHO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE about THE PARTICULAR OPTION OF THE CRYO THING ,,,, ANYONE HERE   THAT CAN POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WHAT THERE RESULTS MAY HAVE  BEEN , ALSO  HE  MIGHT  BE  CONSIDERING THIS AS A PRIMARY TREATMENT OPTION , I DO KNOW THEY DO THIS AT UCSF BUT THATS about  WHERE IT STOPS FOR ME , ANY HELP FROM OUR  BROTHERS OUT THERE WOULD BE GREATLY , APPRICIATED .................THANKS .......DIRT
Diagnosed November 2007   (43 years old )
PSA 3.9 / Gleason 6 / TC1 6 cores 1 shows 25%
Sugery scheduled 5/29/08 - City of Hope - Dr. Mark Kawachi
 "First show of the day"
 and now for the new ive been waiting for
 FINAL PATH REPORT:gleason upgraded to 3+4 T2c bilateral disease,tumor involvment 5%
extra prostatic extention:absent
seminal vesical invasion :absent
pathological staging:pTNM pT2 ORGAN CONFINED
margins free of carcinoma
usable erections ;6-6-08 with little blue pill
continence; 1 pad a day, dry at night
continence a non issue at 10weeks


Tony Crispino
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 4/7/2009 1:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi dirt,
There are a few here that can hold a better discussion than I. One of the top facilities in the west is located in Ventura, Ca. It's run by Duke Bahn. He is a protoge of Fred Lee in the Midwest. There are articles of total and partial ablation therapies available on the web. Cryo is relatively new to prostate cancer, but long term results should mirror other local treatments. It has passed FDA approval when applied in total ablation therapies and some partial ablation therapies. Similar to radiation there are SE's that can affect urinary tract and ED. Cryo touts less of radiations SE's that affect other local organs with collateral RT damage. I believe it is promising, but still left to pass the test of time.

One of the good things that is coming out of Cryo research is imaging. Because Cryo requires careful aimed application, Dr. Bahn and Dr. Lee are working on an advanced imaging fusion of Doppler and MRI. I think this may grow and be used for those who use seeds and focal therapies like HIFU, Cyberknife, and Cryo. In addition, this type of imaging can be used in monitoring watchful waiting cases.

I will meet Dr. Bahn in two weeks and I am highly interested in discussing the different Cryo techniques and results. I am also interested in it's use in salvage therapies as well as partial ablations.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (January 13, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Tudpock18
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Date Joined Sep 2008
Total Posts : 4121
   Posted 4/7/2009 7:00 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi Dirt:

When I was looking at options, I did a little investigation of cyro.  While it does have promise in curing PCa, ED is pretty much a given.  For that reason, I felt other options could both treat the cancer AND preserve my sex life.

Tudpock


Age 62
Gleason 4 +3 = 7
T1C
PSA 4.2
2 of 16 cores cancerous
27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 4/1/09.
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