Question to those who use the pump

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Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 4/10/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I bought the Encore VED pump few weeks ago and I was able to get blood to flow into the penis. This past week, it stopped working for me. Any suggestions as to why I can't get the semi erection I used to get?
Age: 67
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
Dx 12/30/08
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
Post op Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams
size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Bilateral 10-20% involved
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx
Negative margins
Lymph nodes: not dissected
seminal vesicles clean
1st PSA test 4/7/09 result 0.1


mspt98
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 377
   Posted 4/11/2009 1:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Not a clue really, you did better than me I could never get the VED device to work, tried many times. All I got was a sore member so to speak. I went on to trimix injections, much better results with less hassle, still using, waiting for junior to wake up on his own.............. tongue
my age=52 when all this happened,
DRE=negative
PSA went from 1.9 to 2.85 in one year, urologist ordered biopsy,
First biopsy on 03/08, "suspicious for cancer but not diagnostic"
Second biopsy on 08/14/08, 2/12 cores positive for Prostate Cancer on R side, 1 core=5% Ca, other core = 25% Ca, Gleason Score= 3+3=6 both cores,
Clinical Stage T1C
 
Bilateral nerve sparing Robotic Surgery on 09/11/08, pathological stage T2A at surgery,
No signs of spread, organ contained,
First post-op PSA=.01 on 10/15/08,
Second post-op PSA <.01 on 01/15/09,
Incontinence gone in early December '08,
ED remains, using daily Viagra and 2x/wk bimix/trimix injections for penile rehab


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 4/11/2009 5:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Might need to do a little trimming/grooming/cutting back the bush. If you don't get a good seal.....
Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
Catheter in for five weeks.
Dry after 3 months.
 
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
01/16/09 - 2nd Quarter PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.
 


Bootheel
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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 300
   Posted 4/11/2009 8:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I sugggest trimming the hair around the base of the penis and using plenty of waterless lube. Once you get a good seal it should work. It takes a lot of practice. I am about 15 months out and still use it for blood flow. Don't give up. At your stage it is very important for rehab.
Age 65
Diagnosed 10/12/07
PSA 6.3
Biopsy 18 core samples, 2 positive <5%
Stage T1a Gleason 6 (3+3)
LRP  1/29/08
Post-op
Gleason 7 (3+4)
1 positive margin (.3cm)
T2C
4/16/08- Started Bi-mix injections 
5/15/08- 1st Post-Op PSA 0.07 Undetectable
8/11/08 -2nd Post-OP PSA 0.02 Undetectable
8/15/08- No more pads as of today  Whoopee!!!
11/13/08- 3rd post-op PSA 0.02 Undetectable
03/02/09- 1 yr. post-op PSA .09 Undetectable


Jstars
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Date Joined Oct 2005
Total Posts : 489
   Posted 4/11/2009 9:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Ed,
That does seem strange that it worked for a while and now it does not?
As Boot said, trimming is a must, I shaved it all off completely (use a 4-blade razor and carefully!) and have never had a problem with the Encore - except that after a couple months use I am running out of room in there! *wink*
Someone else suggested pumping as much as you can stand, then back off a little and the pump some more.
That does work very well and is probably better rehab than just pumping to max and leaving it there or even slipping on the rings right away.
Once the rings are on the blood flow is way reduced of course so I don't think that part is really rehab (but is the fun part of course).
Did you get manual pump or battery powered? I still like the motor version, even if a little loud. Sometimes loud is good sometimes. When my wife hears it from the other room she comes over to cheerlead.
Keep on pumpin'!
Jim
Age 58, 195lbs, 6'4", 57 at DX, PSA Aug2008 7 4 ... June2007 4.7 (BPH + LUTS)
Biopsy Nov2008 1 of 12 cores 5%, Gleason 3+3 - Sona showed 140+ cc (110 grams post op) prostate size.
02/03/09 open RRP surgery , Nerve sparing both sides, 1 day in hospital, Day 4 first BM,
Pathology Report: All margins clear - No Invasive spread - no change in Gleason score.
02/18/09 Cath out, passed a 1cm STONE within hours.
Using pump (encore) daily since catheter out - working good with 2 rings.
04/01/09 Was Oxalate stone -- usually from kidneys -- X-ray Kidneys @ next PSA).
03/06/09 Started Levitra 20mg rehabbing -> no real effect yet (04/01/09) . (Same for Viagra @ 100mg)
04/01/09 PSA <0.1 (And starting Cialis rehabbing @ 5mg). @ 1 pad/day on IC side.


Ed C. (Old67)
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 2461
   Posted 4/11/2009 10:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your response. Before I started using it. I trimmed the hair around the penis and it worked for a while. I guess the hair grew longer and I'm not getting a good seal. I'll try your recommendations and hope to get it to work again.
Age: 67
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
Dx 12/30/08
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
Post op Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams
size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Bilateral 10-20% involved
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx
Negative margins
Lymph nodes: not dissected
seminal vesicles clean
1st PSA test 4/7/09 result 0.1


Ed C. (Old67)
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 2461
   Posted 4/11/2009 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I shaved the hair and the pump is working again. Thanks
Age: 67
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
Dx 12/30/08
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
Post op Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams
size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Bilateral 10-20% involved
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx
Negative margins
Lymph nodes: not dissected
seminal vesicles clean
1st PSA test 4/7/09 result 0.1


Cajun Jeff
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Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 4119
   Posted 4/11/2009 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I might suggest for rehad try using the VED in the shower with some soap foam. Pump and hold a bit then release. Do this 3 to 5 times. Much more comfortable.

Ed C. (Old67)
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 2461
   Posted 4/11/2009 7:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Jim,
I have the battery Encore pump. It easier to use. Now that I got it working I'll start pumping and stopping several times.
Age: 67
Retired in 2001 and living in Austin TX.
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
Dx 12/30/08
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09
Surgeon: Dr. Randy Fagin, Austin TX.
Post op Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams
size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Bilateral 10-20% involved
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx
Negative margins
Lymph nodes: not dissected
seminal vesicles clean
1st PSA test 4/7/09 result 0.1

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