How long do you have to take Viagra or other ED drugs?

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rob2
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   Posted 4/25/2009 3:04 PM (GMT -6)   
My doctor put me on 25m of Viagra a day about 6 weeks post surgery.  In addition, once a week I take 50m.  Does this mean that you take the medicine forever or do the nerves heal enough that you only have to take the pill before sex.  Just curious what others are doing that have ED.
 
Age 49
occupation accountant
PSA increased from 2.6 to 3.5 in one year
biopsy march 2008 - cancer present gleason 7
decision - surgery (robotic)
Surgery May 9, 2008 - houston, tx
Pathology report -gleason 8
margins clear
9 month  PSA <.04 (low as the machine will go)
continent at 10 weeks (no pads!)
ED is still an issue


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 4/25/2009 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
In my experience, my doctors told me that it may be permanent to use ED drugs, but in most cases folks won't require ED therapy after the first year. Unfortunately for me, I added additional therapies that have intercepted that healing plan. But it isn't the same for you as it was for me. As I tell all my brothers ~ stay positive.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (January 13, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Paul1959
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   Posted 4/25/2009 3:23 PM (GMT -6)   
The therapeutic use of the Sex drugs is usually for several months up to a year. But, you should probably expect to need drugs for sex from now on. You very well could end up being one of the lucky guys who don't really need ED drugs after the fist year or two. So, you could make that your goal. But realize that most men, PCa or not, will eventually need ED drugs. So don't consider it a defeat if you need them.

For me, it is entirely possible to get an erection without drugs, but it is so much easier and more like old times if I pop a viagra. Who needs the stress of worrying about it if a drug can help?
Paul
46 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6 (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06 (Biopsy 11/07 1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report: Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at nine months.
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.) Never a problem since.
ED - Took 100mg viagra every night. for several months
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks, which disappeared over the course of a month or two.
ED bounce is what they call it. Now, at one year, ED is fine with viagra.
One year PSA - undectable!


hb2006
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Date Joined Nov 2008
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   Posted 4/25/2009 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I would agree with Paul1959. As guys age, using Viagra or Cialis, is almost always required. Especially if you start taking hypertension drugs or other medications. Having used all three ED drugs and now on Injections, I prefer the Trimix Injection. In my case, it always works and with an extremely low dosage, I don't have to worry about side effects. I'm hard in 3 to 5 minutes every time.   

Age 60
PSA 2007 4.1
PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative
Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00
PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00


CPA
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   Posted 4/26/2009 7:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Greetings, Rob.  I am now almost 15 months post surgery.  I take the ADC version of Levitra 2 times a week just for maintenance.  I plan to do this routinely until my doc tells me to stop and then we'll see what happens.  For what its worth, I find that the morning after I take one of the pills it is very easy to get an erection and it stays hard as long as I need it to.  3 to 4 days after taking a pill I can still get an erection but need much more stimulation (whos complaining) and it may not stay as hard for as long.  I got over real quickly any doubts about needing to take an ED Drug.  As my doc said, I want you to take it whether you need it or not so I'm taking it.  Order it from ADC and the cost is much less and just do what your doc says.  David
Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25364
   Posted 4/26/2009 8:00 AM (GMT -6)   
My doctor, still astounded at my natural lack of any ED after surgery, takes the opposite view, he says if it works that well on its own, there's no reason to introduce ED drugs or even a pump. Five month after my open surgery, with only one nerve side "saved", functioning basically like I did before. If anything, it seems like the hardness is even more intense at some times than at others. The big "O" is definitely longer, deeper, and better than before, never thought I would admit or say that, but its true. For all the other men still depressed about lack of ejaculation, once you can get your mind over that connection, it can be just as fulfilling or even more so than before, that part is just in our minds because it is only natural for a man to equate his orgasm with ejaulation. I still think about that part on rare occasions, but it feels too good right now, and its great never to have to deal with a mess after.


David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


CapnLarry
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 75
   Posted 4/28/2009 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
My Dr prescribed 1/2 dose of Viagra not only for ED but as a vasodilator to promote healing and minimize scarring. Since healing of nerve tissue takes years, that may be how long it's useful?
Larry Shick
www.sv-moira.com


James C.
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 4462
   Posted 4/28/2009 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Larry, welcome to HW and the forum. I really enjoyed your sailing journey website link, a dream of a lot of us guys, I bet..
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each 3 months

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