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Pete trips again!
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1899
   Posted 5/10/2009 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
 
56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections once a month. 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, one on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis in port in Singapor and the other on a Gator Freighter USS Bataan stationed in Norfolk, Va. to be deployed to the Middle East in early May. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 


Tony Crispino
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 5/10/2009 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Pete,
I hope you are well. I am not sure if I read your massage right but maybe your T level is down? Peace to you buddy.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (January 13, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25380
   Posted 5/10/2009 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Pete, looks like your signature is there, but no message. Hope you are ok. Proud of your Navy sons too, being ex navy and son of a Navy lifer myself.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


CPA
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 5/10/2009 2:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Pete. Nothing wrong with getting down at times - just make sure you get back up and knock this disease down. I know you are proud of your sons - we are all grateful for their service. I just passed through Norfolk about 2 hours ago and saw several ships (looked like 4 freighters lined up) in port - I'll bet one of them was the Bataan. Best wishes. David
Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 760
   Posted 5/10/2009 4:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Pete,

Not being sure of what you meant to say, I took a quick look at your recent posts elsewhere in Healingwell. Looks like you're going through a lot. Maybe you meant to say something and just ran out of steam. Hang in there, guy.

DJ
Diagnosis at age 53. PSA 2007 about 2; PSA 2008 4.3
Biopsy September 2008: 6 of 12 cores positive; Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter out on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, out again 14th day following negative cystogram
Pathology: pT2c; lymph nodes negative; margins involved; 41 grams, 8% involved by tumor; same Gleason 4+3=7
PSA 1/22/08 non-detectable! 8-)
4/23/09 still undetectable!


Pete trips again!
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1899
   Posted 5/10/2009 6:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Old Friends
I'm sorry to leave this post blank like I did, it was in poor taste. I at least owe you an explanation for the title I left on an open post. Some of you may remember me but most probably don't as I haven't posted here regularly in some time. A lot has happened to me since then and unfortunately not much has been very good. I have become a regular on the Cronic Pain Forum and mistakenly wrote a long post before realizing I was in the wrong forum, pretty dumb but I've been in pretty bad shape lately fighting off depression which is a pretty regular thing with me. I had to finally get a cervical fusion done in my neck a little over a month ago because I was loosing feeling on my left side and just couldn't handle the pain anymore no matter what kind of meds the doc's gave me. Healing hasn't been going well as I am a stuborn foolish man who went back to work way to soon after my surgery. I also had a hernia surgery 3 weeks prior to my neck. Now, along with those I have a host of other bad body parts which need attention soon or I'll be in big trouble. My loving wife and I have not been living together for a year now due to the ecomomy and it's taken a toll on our marrage. We are currently in Marrage councelling and had an apt. yesterday which didn't go very well and thats what I was writing about. I know this has nothing to do with prostate cancer and I appologize to everyone for writing here. Moderators please feel free to delete this post, I just thought I owed my friends who may have seen my name an explanation.
Bless you all!
Your Friend,
Pete
56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections once a month. 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, one on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis in port in Singapor and the other on a Gator Freighter USS Bataan stationed in Norfolk, Va. to be deployed to the Middle East in early May. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 


Doting Daughter
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 1064
   Posted 5/10/2009 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there Pete. I'm sorry to hear that life has been so difficult lately, but I hope and pray that things turn around soon. Hopefully, you will start to mend from all your surgeries and that loving wife of yours and you will get things worked out too. We will be pulling for you!!!
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Oct. 10, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

Co-Moderator Prostate Cancer Forum


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25380
   Posted 5/10/2009 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Pete, you may have mistakenly posted here, but many people here care about you and your condition, past and present. You have a lot on your plate, that is for sure. Chronic pain can lead to depression that can lead to other ill feelings. One begets the other. Hopefully, things can make a turn for the good with your health, and perhaps with more time, you and your wife can get reconciled. Even if it seems impossible now, time can change lots of things. Wishing you only the best, and hope things turn around for you. Don't combine your problems and woes into one box, keep each one seperate from the other, that way each can be dealt with whatever resources you can for that problem, and that problem alone.

Keep in touch, many still care.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


TeddyG
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 133
   Posted 5/10/2009 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   

Hello Pete,

I haven't read your prior posts as I have only been in theis exclusive club for about a month but I have noticed discussion about and have thought quite a bit about the mental strains that accompany PCa and other health issues. There is no sense in not seeking help, including counselling and/medication when the stresses of any dysfunction in your life intrudes on you and your family's well being. If counselling, trust the process as it takes time to work through the issues and really drill down into them. In the mean time if depression is driving you to dysfunction, tell your doc. By God, if you can face down these medical disorders, you can face down the depression that may accompany them. Just do it.

This goes for the rest of the Club too. Don't try to be a tough guy when it comes to the mental health aspects of our complicated, stressful life.

TeddyG


Background:
Age 55, two teens, very fit cyclist (avg 2000+ miles per year) and weight, diet, etc. consistent with good habits. Stressful job as attorney; very supporting wife who is helping me through every stage of this war.
Stats:
2006 PSA - 1.5
2007 PSA - 2.3
2008 PSA - 5.3 (18 mos.)
2009 Jan. 20 - Biopsy 12 samples
        Feb 3 Dx 2/12 samples positive, low volume  (5% and 7-10%)
Gleason 3+4, later downgraded by second opinion at Johns-Hopkins to 3+3, but "it's still PCa" as my Doc said.
Laproscopic surgery April 9,  University of KY Medical Center, Lexington, 3 days in hospital, catheter removal April 21.
Pathology: clear margins, no cancer in prostate: told that this is very rare and Doc has only seen it in 3 out of over 1400 cases; I rearched the concept of "vanishing cancer" and found a tumor classification of tP0 and asked Doc if it applied to me. He said that it was unlikely because if a pathologist had done a much more detailed analysis of the tissue, he would likely find more foci somewhere, and biopsy found "needle in the haystack as opposed to the tip of the iceberg"; Nevertheless, it is a blessing;
Regardless of the science, my family says "miracle."
Now working w/ post-surgery issues....
 


Cajun Jeff
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Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 4110
   Posted 5/10/2009 7:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Pete, I do hope the counseling works for you. I am new to this board but I do understand how you can get down with all the other events going on in you life. Hang in that but lets look for things to bet better. Will pray for you and you family. Congrats on 2 great sons.
Jeff T Age 57
9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable
 ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily,


jetguy
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Date Joined Sep 2006
Total Posts : 741
   Posted 5/10/2009 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   

Hey Pete, I sent you an email.  Call me.

Your Friend,

Bill



August of 2006, PSA up to 4.2 from 2.7 one year ago. 
October free and total PSA 12% free and 5.0 total.
A month, or so later, 4.7.
Late in the year decide on Image Guided IMRT.
Begin 43 treatments on January 23, 2007 and finish on March 23.
 
Wow, almost two years behind.  I had a typical radiation bounce that
scared me, but it seems to be ok.  PSA is about 1.0 which is ok for
a rad guy at this stage of the game.
 
Got my FAA medical certificate back four months after starting my
treatment.  It's still a First Class, just jumping through a few hoops.


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25380
   Posted 5/10/2009 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Teddy,

Well said in your post. It's been a personal slate of mine since the early 1980's, and an advocate for including depression and other mental illness related side effects related to other medical illnesses, surgeries, recoveries, etc. It's almost never spoken of about when one is treated. I am fortunate to have a good GP that has dealt with me for 13 plus years now that is in tune with that aspect of treatments. He's been there for me with the different maladies I have dealt with over the years, including 4 different bouts of cancer. I am the fortunate one there, so yes, men, talk to your doctor. There's nothing cool or macho about toughing out depression. Minor depression can lead to clinical depression, and then on to Major Depressive Disorder, and there is a thin, thin, line between them. Be your own advocate first, then if you have a spouse or significant other, include them, then filter it down to the rest of your family and friends. If they really love and care about you, they will stick by you and help you through the dark clouds of depression. I know this first hand, been there and done this several time, as recently as 18 months, and not doing anything at the time to help myself almost cost me my life, literally.

Depression can truly kill, and being a man doesn't make it any easier, it's the silent killer, the one where someone on the outside can't even see anything wrong with you.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 6 month on 5/9
 
 


Tony Crispino
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 5/11/2009 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Pete,
You are our friend. And if in any way we can help, count on us. Thank you for coming back to explain. But there is no need to delete this post. You situation may be of interest here, and at least can spark a useful conversation like it has. And you were here and most helpful when I arrived on the scene, and I won't ever forget that.

Take it easy, buddy. You know my motto.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (January 13, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Pete trips again!
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1899
   Posted 5/11/2009 1:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh You Folks are the Greatest, just like I remembered amnd just like my caring family in the Cronic Pain Forum!!! Thanks so much for all the compassion & support! To answer the question about mental health, depression and meds> YES, I've been on one type of antidepression med or another since Prozac first hit the market back in the mid 80's. I'm currently yaking 150mg of Effecsor time release which obviously isn't working very well.. I've also been to my fair share of shrinks w/ limmited help. I've suffered with an imballance of hormones since ten years ago when I had my thyroid removed and five years ago when I became hypogonatic after my RPP. My wife thinks I've been depressed to some degree since before we met over 30 years ago and that it all started when My Dad died of PC in 73'. Thats when I went off the deep end causing a number of physical problems w/ numorus motorcycle, auto and just plain stupid accidents which are the reasons for my poor health problems now. Some of the old timers like JetGuy, BikerJim & Swimom know all about that part of my life as I went over it in great detail back then.
Things are better today, had a good long talk with my wife last night after she called late and caught me in one of my crying spells! I took off work today also.
Thanks Again!!
Your Friend,
Pete
PS>Teddy & David are so right! If anyone becomes depressed, please find some help! It can get really bad if you do nothing about it! It's nothing to be ashamed about! Unfortunatly it often goes hand in hand w/ prostate and other cancers and big time w/ Cronic Pain!
56 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy> new 2/6/09> 400mg injections once a month. 56 and so glad to still be here to see my two sons grow up to be fine young men. They are both serving in the US Navy, Joseph is on the aircraft carrier USS John Stennis somewhere in the Far East and Pete Jr. is on The Asault Ship USS Bataan "The Jaws of the Fleet" on their way to the Middle East w/ 2,000 Marines aboard. I am one very proud (what they call me)> Big Pops! 

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