Trimix and Penis size

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Chatman
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Date Joined Jun 2009
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   Posted 6/13/2009 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Had seed implant for PC in 2002. Starting in 2004 till April of 2008 I had a total of 10 operation procedures for urinary blockage due to the implants. After about the 7th procedure I noticed a problem with ED. After the 8th it was total ED. Starting in Sept of 2008 I started with Trimix - (about .02). However, my erections reach no longer than 3-4 inches which of course are FAR from normal or usuable. My urologist says that  this is probably due to my not having any erection at all for over a year.
I have also tried using a pump in conjunction with the Trimix but that doesn't seem to add anything.
Any suggestions please!

hb2006
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 299
   Posted 6/13/2009 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you tried Viagra or Levitra before doing the injection? I know one of the guys on here, always does a half of a Viagra before injecting.

What about a stronger dose?
Age 60
PSA 2007 4.1
PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative
Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00
PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00
ED Status- Currently using Trimix, Levitra daily for increased blood flow.
Noctural Erections have completely returned on a nightly basis, same hardness as before.


mspt98
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 377
   Posted 6/13/2009 11:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, this is a long shot at best (excuse the pun) but have you ever thought of buying one of the penis extender traction devices? I have Peyronies disease (bent penis) now from using trimix injections following robotic surgery 8 months ago, and I am trying to straighten out my penis by wearing this penis brace/extension device most of the day. The urology group in Chicago feel this really works. One month  later no improvement in the curvature,  but my penis is definately longer than it was over a month ago. I bought the quick extender device on line, there are many copies of this device on other websites, I figure they're all about the same.  The device puts a stretch on the penis 8 hours/day, you have to take it off every couple hours to give your tissue a chance to rest. The stretching doesn't really hurt, but it can irritate your skin on your thigh after a couple hours of wearing. I also found it was more comfortable not to wear underwear with it, just wear your pants (or in my case my scrubs) over it and after awhile you actually forget your wearing the device. You continue increasing your penis length and width by adding small extender screws to the brace on a specific timetable. I have no interest in adding on any more extenders  since my penis is long and wide enough with trimix injection but  it bends too much to the left. I just want it straighter! I know this sounds really weird, but I don't know what else you (or I) can do about our problems in this area................
my age=52 when all this happened,
DRE=negative
PSA went from 1.9 to 2.85 in one year, urologist ordered biopsy,
First biopsy on 03/08, "suspicious for cancer but not diagnostic"
Second biopsy on 08/14/08, 2/12 cores positive for Prostate Cancer on R side, 1 core=5% Ca, other core = 25% Ca, Gleason Score= 3+3=6 both cores,
Clinical Stage T1C
 
Bilateral nerve sparing Robotic Surgery on 09/11/08, pathological stage T2A at surgery,
No signs of spread, organ contained,
3 0's in a row now, 7 months out
Incontinence gone in early December '08,
ED remains, uro said try oral meds and then trimix for sex only now


hb2006
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 299
   Posted 6/14/2009 10:04 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm surprised that you ended up with a curvature so quickly. Was the dosage for the Trimix high? Mine is 20:30:1 and I haven't seen any curving.
Age 60
PSA 2007 4.1
PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative
Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00
PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00
ED Status- Currently using Trimix, Levitra daily for increased blood flow.
Noctural Erections have completely returned on a nightly basis, same hardness as before.


mspt98
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 377
   Posted 6/14/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I dunno, I think my solution was the same as yours. All I know is that I was tested in uro's office after catheter came out with a 20 unit dose in a small syringe. It produced a good erection, not too painful for about 3 hours. However, when I went home and filled the prescription the first time I injected the erection was much harder and longer. I never did that again!. I called up my uro and told him I was starting at 5 units and gradually working up 2 units at a time to find the right dosage. 5 units did nothing, 10 units was marginal, 15 units was too many. So I started again at 8 units and seem to have settled in at 11 units now. I also keep a supply of sudafed in the house in case the erections last too long. I was careful to always switch sides between injections, held pressure at the injection side to 5 minutes, and I never injected more than 2x/wk. I dunno why I am in the unlucky 8% of men who get Peyronie's from injections, I rarely hear of it on this forum. I only inject 1x/wk now because I don't want it to get worse, and I take the vitamins and use the extender device above to see if I can straighten it out. I guess I could give up sex altogether or eventually go have a penile implant, but neither of those options sound great to me..................
my age=52 when all this happened,
DRE=negative
PSA went from 1.9 to 2.85 in one year, urologist ordered biopsy,
First biopsy on 03/08, "suspicious for cancer but not diagnostic"
Second biopsy on 08/14/08, 2/12 cores positive for Prostate Cancer on R side, 1 core=5% Ca, other core = 25% Ca, Gleason Score= 3+3=6 both cores,
Clinical Stage T1C
 
Bilateral nerve sparing Robotic Surgery on 09/11/08, pathological stage T2A at surgery,
No signs of spread, organ contained,
3 0's in a row now, 7 months out
Incontinence gone in early December '08,
ED remains,  still taking daily viagra for penile rehab, uro said try oral meds and then trimix for sex only now, Peyronie's Disease a problem now


Piano
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 847
   Posted 6/14/2009 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Chatman, I imagine that that 3-4 inches would be quite satisfactory so long as it was stiff. But I expect that it is still quite floppy too, so that would be a problem.

Your problem may simply be that you don't have a full erection as yet. I found with both injections and the pump, it takes a fair amount of practice to master the techniques involved -- something like 20 attempts with each.

I suggest with the pump you concentrate on increasing the length a little extra each day -- just to the point of discomfort. With injections I found adding some constriction around the base of the penis while doing the injection and for three minutes after, makes a big difference to the reliability. (I use a few office rubber bands doubled over.)
Pre-op:
Age 63 at diagnosis, now 64.
No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores.
Operation:
Non-nerve sparing RRP on 7 March 2008.
Two nights in hospital; catheter out after 7 days.
Post-op:
Continent; no pads needed from the get-go.
Pathology showed organ confined and negative margins. Gleason downgraded to 4+4=8.
PSAs:
6-week : <0.05
7-month: <0.05
13-month: 0.07 (start of a trend?)
ED:
After a learning curve, Bimix injections (0.2ml) are working well. VED also works but we find it inferior to Bimix.


fulltlt
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Date Joined Nov 2010
Total Posts : 264
   Posted 11/19/2010 11:05 PM (GMT -6)   
mspt98 said...
Well, this is a long shot at best (excuse the pun) but have you ever thought of buying one of the penis extender traction devices? I have Peyronies disease (bent penis) now from using trimix injections following robotic surgery 8 months ago, and I am trying to straighten out my penis by wearing this penis brace/extension device most of the day. The urology group in Chicago feel this really works. One month later no improvement in the curvature, but my penis is definately longer than it was over a month ago. I bought the quick extender device on line, there are many copies of this device on other websites, I figure they're all about the same. The device puts a stretch on the penis 8 hours/day, you have to take it off every couple hours to give your tissue a chance to rest. The stretching doesn't really hurt, but it can irritate your skin on your thigh after a couple hours of wearing. I also found it was more comfortable not to wear underwear with it, just wear your pants (or in my case my scrubs) over it and after awhile you actually forget your wearing the device. You continue increasing your penis length and width by adding small extender screws to the brace on a specific timetable. I have no interest in adding on any more extenders since my penis is long and wide enough with trimix injection but it bends too much to the left. I just want it straighter! I know this sounds really weird, but I don't know what else you (or I) can do about our problems in this area................


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