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dkob131
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 364
   Posted 6/20/2009 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
To good to be true ?
 
 
David
 54 y.o.
 Diagnosed 4/10/08
 DRE Normal
 PSA-5.5
 Biopsy- 12 cores, 4 positive highest 4+4=8
 Bone scan, CT scan and Chest X-ray clear 4/16/08
 Urologist suggested surgery 4/16/08
 MRI on 4/24/08 clear no suggestion of lymph node   involvement.
 4/24/08 -Started on Lupron and Casodex preparing for HDRT and IMRT in late July.  This treatment will not preclude me from surgery if I change my mind.
Decide to have DaVinci surgery after another consult with surgeon.
6/19/08- DaVinci surgery at University of Washington.
6/25/08- Path report, clear margins, no noted extension
9/12/08- PSA <0.02 
12/05/08-PSA <0.02 Six months after surgery 
3/02/09-PSA <0.02 Nine months after surgery


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25382
   Posted 6/20/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
If this turns out to be true, and not just a fluke, it sure would give some hope to eveyrone, now and down line that comes into contact with the nasty enemy of PC. We are all hoping that one day, not years from now, some combination of something will have a dramatic effect like the article said, especially for our brethren in the advance cases. Thanks for sharing it.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsular, clear margins, clear lymph nodes 
First PSA Post Surgery   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10 doubled in 3 months, new test in six weeks, then possibly off for salvage radiation
 
 


Magaboo
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Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 1211
   Posted 6/20/2009 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi David,
This truly looks too good to be true. I'm hoping that I'm wrong.
Thanks for this heads up and another glimmer of hope.
All the best to you,
 
Magaboo

Born Sept 1936
PSA 7.9
-ve DRE
Gleason's Score 3+4=7, 2 of 8 positive
open RP 28 Nov 06 (nerve sparing), Post op staging T3a
Gleasons still 3+4=7
Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06, Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA tests in 2008: Mar.=.04; Jun.=.05; Sept.=.08; 3 days before Rad Start=0.1
Salvage RT completed (33 sessions - 66 Grays) on the 19th Dec., 08.
PSA on the 26 Jan., 09, =0.05. PSA tests now every 6 month


Cajun Jeff
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Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 4112
   Posted 6/20/2009 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
This would be wonderful. As sign of new hope for many.
Jeff T Age 57
9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable
 ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily,


CPA
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 6/20/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Greetings, David.  This does sound promising - particularly for our friends who have advanced prostate cancer.  As a veteran, I'm glad to see that the defense department is one of the sponsors of this study.  There are always questions about links between various things that have happened in wartime and various diseases, so I'm glad that the defense department is looking for good solutions.  David

Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
PSA every 90 days - ZERO's everytime!
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


geezer99
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 990
   Posted 6/20/2009 10:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, with only two carefully selected patients it may not tell us much, but every data point is data. I wouldn't rush to believe it, but for those in dire circumstances it may offer hope.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3 + 4 = 7
CAT scan 1/09 negative, Bone scan 1/09 negative

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Removed 03/08/09
Post surgical pathology report. Lymph nodes negative, Seminal vesicles negative
Surgical margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
At 6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.


Geebra
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Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 476
   Posted 6/21/2009 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is some more on this from BBC. There were a total of 108 patients in the study, 20 showed some progress, three showed a marked progress. Sounds similar to the study I almost decided to participate in - Taxotere with ADT. In two cases, after surgery they were not able to find signs of cancer.

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8110103.stm
 

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