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Timmy77
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   Posted 7/22/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
rolleyes Don't wan't to be looked at weird but does visual aides work for anybody? Movies pictures? I don't want to seem crass but in the past I was very visual? Nothing seems to work yet though I have not done it Looked at anything scool Much
Timmy nono
48 yrs old
Robotic RP
6-15 2009
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Kbars
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   Posted 7/22/2009 4:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I was the same way very visual, if the wind blew up went the flag pole. I am now 18 months post RP and while I still like to look/watch it doesn't do a thing down there. Lots of physical stimulation is required to get any type of reaction. Hope this answers your question.


51 yo
RP 01/25/08
Last PSA 0

Purgatory
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   Posted 7/22/2009 4:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Like most men, was very visual pre-surgery, but even though I did not suffer any ED, no longer have an visual effects. Things still look good to my mind, but not making the connection to the nether regions it once did. Any kind of real physical contact works instantly as before, so I guess I can't have it all.
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
 
 


goodlife
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   Posted 7/22/2009 4:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Sure helps in a crowded room of hot babes tho ! No more embarassing bulges ! (ha ha)

Ditto on the above. It just takes some time Timmy.
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


Bob D
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   Posted 7/23/2009 12:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes they do for me. I have a very beautiful & sexy wife who will do anything for and to me.
We do enjoy visual stimulation. I enjoyed visuals prior to and after surgery thanks to a great
doc and good luck. We also talk a lot during sex describing our favorite fantasies. Hope this is okay to
post here.
    1. Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Open Surgery. Northeast Georgia Medical Center, Gainesville Ga. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. No pads needed since 6/10/08. First PSA: Less than 0.1 on 6/17/08. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible (less than four months post op) with the assistance of Cialis.  Post Op Biopsy : No malignant cells in lymph node. Gleason 3=4=7. Tumor on both lobes. Urethral margins/apex free of neoplasia. Right and left seminal vesicles free of neoplasia. No invasion of prostatic capsule of the resection margins are noted by the tumor. Tumor occupies 10 to15% of the prostate gland. Path staging T2c, NO, MX- Group staging II.  Focal areas of perineural invasion by tumor are noted. 80% natural erections and full erections with 10mg Cialis. 9/22/08-Took 10mg Cialis on Monday night, had very usable full hard erection at night, the next morning, and the following Thursday morning, 60 hours after original dose !! Orgasm quality Excellent.!!!!! I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years. She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!: 3/12/09: Full natural erections with penetration. 10mg Cialis makes them easier to maintain but I have had several med free full erections lately, Yipieeee !!!!!!!  3/24/09: One year PSA <0.1.  3/28 & 3/29: had sex with full naturals with no meds. Erections are gained and maintained with very little manipulation. Getting more like pre op every day. 5/30/09, I take only 5mg Cialis every 2 or 3 days. This greatly assists my full naturals and provides great staying power and no manipulation required and allows sex anytime !! Lenght and girth are back to pre op size due to regular "workouts".
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      livinadream
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         Posted 7/23/2009 8:06 PM (GMT -6)   
      The mind is a powerful thing as is love when you combine the two amazing things happen. PCa and its side effects can be very frustrating however if you allow yourself you can find a level of intimacy that you never realized existed. Find the blessing it because it is there.
      I finally gave up on trying to force libido and erections so I just decided to love my wife in a different way.
      I love everyone here at HW and I realize we all have a special bond.

      peace to all
      Dale
      My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
      age 47 (current)
      My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes (3 positive) was 4+4=8
      I had 44 IMRT's
      Casodex
      Currently on Lupron
      I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
      Married with two kids
      latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
      PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
      PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .016
      PSA Mar 30th, 2009 is .02
      Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May
      T level dropped to 37 Mar 30th, 2009
      cancer in 4 of 6 cores
      92%
      80%
      37%
      28%
       


      Purgatory
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      Date Joined Oct 2008
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         Posted 7/23/2009 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
      Dale, I agree with you 100%. The bond here I feel here at HW Prostate Cancer is unique and special to me, and I am sure to most of us. Our newcomers and friends seem to pick up on that too when they lurk with us a while. In the past, I dealt with all my medical maladies on my own, just toughing out things, but since I have been here, it is amazing to be able to think, speak, feel freely without worrying about what anyone else is thinking or doing. Hope it always stays this weay.

      David in SC
      Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
      3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
      Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
       Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
      2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
      Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
       
       


      Tony Crispino
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      Date Joined Dec 2006
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         Posted 7/23/2009 10:08 PM (GMT -6)   
      Well said, Dale,
      After two years being shut down by HT, I have improved an already awesome relationship with Ruthie. We have always been very close, but in better ways. But I also understand what these guys are going through. It can be very frustrating to lose control over the physical intimacy.

      Visual aids wouldn't help me if I tried...Of course, I'm just a Catholic boy who still has his fingers over his eyes since long before surgery...lol...With my T levels at a small fractoin of normal, I have subzero libido...In addition, if I see a naked or semi-naked woman, I would only notice the shoes anyway.

      Tony
       Age 47 (44 when Dx)
      Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
      Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
      Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
      HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
      IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
      Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
       
      My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
       
      STAY POSITIVE!


      goodlife
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         Posted 7/23/2009 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   
      Dale,

      You really hit on a key change in my life. My desires have changed from what makes me happy, to what makes my wife of 37 years happy. Our level of intimacy has gone to a new level. Time seems to stand still while we are "romancing", until I realize what time it is and the old alarm clock will be going off soon.

      It is a neat part of the PC experience. My orgasm is not what is important, even tho I still enjoy them.
      Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
      Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
      0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
      Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
      Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
      Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
      3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


      Sleepless09
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      Date Joined Jul 2009
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         Posted 7/23/2009 11:59 PM (GMT -6)   
      Bob D you posted:

      "Yes they do for me. I have a very beautiful & sexy wife who will do anything for and to me.
      We do enjoy visual stimulation. I enjoyed visuals prior to and after surgery thanks to a great
      doc and good luck. We also talk a lot during sex describing our favorite fantasies. Hope this is okay to
      post here."

      Now, Bob D as to your "Hope this is okay to post here," I wish to make two comments:

      #1. As Debbie Boone put it in her famous song:

      You light up my life
      You give me hope
      To carry on
      You light up my days
      and fill my nights with song

      Thanks for the 'hope' Bob D


      #2. The crowd of women outside your door tomorrow morning are HealingWell prostate forum wives who have been sent by their husbands to find out what your wife eats for breakfast with instructions to have a double helping themselves. Mine is the cute one in the front row. She looks eager as she thinks the breakfast is a pre-shoe-shopping expedition meeting and your wife is leading a shoe sale at the mall bargain hunting class.

      Finally, if anyone tells my wife why I want her eating this Breakfast Food Of Champions the fact she dispatches me with a blunt instrument should in no way alter the fact that I'm a PCa victum and my demise should be recorded as such.

      And now to sleep, perchance to dream, of nobel deeds and jousts most visual and verbal .....

      Sleepless
      Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
      Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
      June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
      Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
      Catheter out July 9, so far, so good
      Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"  


      Tony Crispino
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      Date Joined Dec 2006
      Total Posts : 8128
         Posted 7/24/2009 1:08 AM (GMT -6)   
      Bob D,
      Thank you for your candid post. It is quite alright and very on topic...

      Tony


       Age 47 (44 when Dx)
      Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
      Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
      Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
      HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
      IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
      Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
       
      My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
       
      STAY POSITIVE!

      Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 7/24/2009 2:55:53 AM (GMT-6)

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