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Sherkaner
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   Posted 7/31/2009 10:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Eight days ago I underwent a radical prostatectomy. I opted for the daVinci robotic technology and ever so glad that I did. I was lucky enough to reside in a town where the hospital had the machinery so no long trips to places distant and or unknown was required. There was released after an overnight hospital stay and am still amazed that there is no post-op pain. amy abdomen has a general, mild soreness as though I had come off of a 100 sit-up spurt. However the catheter is causing a weak, distant ache deep inside. Is this normal? Perhaps I am being too active. It will be removed after a Cystogram in the third week after surgery.



Otherwise the only unpleasant discomfort comes from constipation and if I strain to affect a BM I leak from around the catheter where it enters the penis.

goodlife
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   Posted 7/31/2009 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Normal, normal.

Catheter are a pain. Too much activity can irritate the bladder. Somtimes the tip of the penis get sore too. A little vaseline, or other lubricant will help.

Keep drinking lots of fluids to flush the baldder out, take stool softeners and/or Milk of Magnesia to get those bowles moving easily. Try not to strain too hard. Got some stitches internally that you don't want to mess up.

Leaks are normal tho, so just keep a pad handy, or sometimes wrapping it in gauze will help catch the little drips.

Good luck on your recovery. Welcome to the club. Stay tunes for lots of help!
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello and welcome new friend. All you described is normal thus far. Under pressure, the catheter can leak a little, sometimes they didn't put enough fluid in the baloon portion. The general pain with the catheter is very normal too. Glad you are doing so well on the rest of your surgery. Please keep us posted.

David in SC
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
 
 


geezer99
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   Posted 7/31/2009 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
All good advice above except don't use vaseline - use a water based lubricant like KY jelly, vaseline can rot the rubber.

I discovered that when moving around as in walking (and I hope you are doing more every day, it is really important) Things were best if I immobilized both my equipment and the cathater and tube. I put on a pair of jockey shorts and used tape on the tube. Otherwise my sweat pants flipped things around.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads


Sherkaner
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   Posted 7/31/2009 12:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for all of the words of encouragement-geezer99, Purgatory goodlife-as I don't feel so alone having to go through this. I have been using Vaseline, so I am going to alcohol wipe the rubber clean and score some KY. I do not need any complications mucking things up.

sandstorm
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   Posted 7/31/2009 3:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to the other side Sherkaner. Glad that your surgery went well. Sounds like everything you are going through is normal. Try a little neosporin ointment on the tip of the penis. It is extra insurance against infection and lubricates well. Go easy for a while but you will notice you are getting stronger day by day and in about 12 to 15 weeks one day you will wake up and feel almost normal. Good luck to you.
Age at DX 57
5-18-07 PSA 7.7
5-06-08 PSA 4.6  8% free psa, but stable
10-23-08 PSA 5.65 4% free psa
11-04-08 biopsy
11-11-08 2 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 3+3  6  stage t1c / post-op 3+4  7  stage t2c
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci RRP 01-09-09
Catheter removed 1-15-09
Pathology Report says it's gone!
Fully continent on 4-09-09, no more pads
2nd Post-op PSA 7-21-09   0.00
Switched to bi-mix injectable 7-21-09


Sleepless09
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   Posted 7/31/2009 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Sherkaner, it's good to have you here.

All you report seems quite normal to me. The day after my surgery I went to a coffee shop. No pain or discomfort, except for that catheter pulling away. However, as time goes by I had some surprises. My scrotum turning purple and looking like a softball dipped in violet ink for one. And now, four weeks later, my surgery scars and belly feel terrific but my perineum has days it aches something fierce. It can be uncomfortable sitting. With luck you'll avoid these sorts of surprises. I mention them not to scare you ---- after facing daVinci who is going to be frightened of a pulm scrotum anyways??? --- but rather just to alert you not to be upset if you find in the weeks ahead some days are more distressing than the ones you're facing now.

I look forward to hearing more from you as you continue on the journey to full recovery and a zero PSA.

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9, so far, so good
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"  


Sherkaner
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   Posted 7/31/2009 4:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Sleepless09: I was wondering about my scrotum changing color. The only discomfort I am experiencing is deep inside from the catheter. Also the penis tip is a bit sore. None of this I would characterize as pain, only an annoying ache that is difficult to ignore. I avoided the pain meds prescribed due to the constipation factor but now am using them. two and sometimes three times a day. Milk Of Magnesia more than compensates for that nasty side effect. I was hoping to have the cystogram and see my surgeon at the two week mark and have the catheter removed. However he is off next week so I'll have the darn thing in for three weeks. Oh well I can't complain as I feel so good having chosen the da Vinci method and I find myself evangelizing about it to others I speak with. All of the comments from my initial post are very supportive and comforting. Thank you to you all.

Be of good cheer.
Science has all of the answers. We just don't have all of the science yet.


mvesr
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   Posted 7/31/2009 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys

The cath was the worst part of this whole thing for me. I could never get into a comfortable position to sit, stand or lie down with the thing. Glad it is gone.

Mika
age at dx 54 now 57
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
ED is getting better
the shots work great, still can't give them to myself
two years of zero's


DS Can
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   Posted 7/31/2009 8:35 PM (GMT -6)   

Welcome Sherkaner,

I got my cath pulled on the eigth day.  I was in a terrible amount of discomfort.  I don't know I could have lasted another hour.  I was in a lot of intense pain immediately after the cath was pulled, too.  I was given some topical lidocane to help ease the pain.  I brought the leftovers home with me and used it every once in a while.  I am over three and a half months out and I can still feel the effects of having had the catheter.  Keep healing, look for weekly improvement at this stage of recovery.

If you have a chance to post your stats in a signature we would be better able to follow your journey,

Dan


PSA 01/07 1.2, PSA 01/08 1.9, PSA 01/09 2.5
BIOPSY 02/24/09  PCa DX age 52
Right: 3+3=6, 3/6 cores 10% involved,PNI-Y
Left:  3+3=6, 1/7 cores <5% involved,PNI-N
LARP 04/09/09 nerve sparing. Final pathology:
GS 3+4=7, Margins uninvolved, 2 lymph nodes negative
Catheter out 04/17,1st no-pad day 05/03
25 mg Viagra nightly;100 mg:not ready for prime time
Followup PSA 05/28/09 <0.1
 
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/31/2009 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Dan, then you can easily relate to my never ending catheter stories, lol. Nine months out from surgery, I don't think its ever going to end.
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
 
 


Sleepless09
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   Posted 7/31/2009 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Sherkaner, I can't understand why your doctor going on vacation should delay your getting the catheter out. Anyone I know of has had their catheter removed by a nurse, either in a hospital, or in a doctor's office/clinic. Last thing in the world I'd want is a doctor trying to do a nurses' job. My surgery was in Edmonton. I returned to Winnipeg where I live. I'd arranged to have the catheter removed by a urologist's office here. On the appointed day I met with Brenda, who assured me she'd been yanking catheters for 34 years, and bingo, out it came. Easy as a whistle. I complimented her and she said when you did as many of them a week as she did, you got the hang of it. In all the time I was at the office I never saw any of the urologists there, not even in the hall. It was noon and I expect they were all at lunch, finishing up surgery, or on the golf course.

I'd suggest you find your self a Brenda and get it out on day 10 or 14 if that's what your doc wants (my daVinci surgeon usually removes catheters in one week.) Then, if he wants to see you, go on back in when he returns from vacation. If his whole office is closed, go to another one. Just as you want a surgeon with experience you want a nurse with experience. A nurse because he/she will do this for a number of doctors (when you find the right one) and will be an expert. Also, nurses have the caring empathy that leads them to learn to do it gently. You don't want a dentist cleaning your teeth, and I'd not want a doctor removing my catheter.

There are two reasons I encourage you to get it out when it's time and not wait for the doctor:

1) I have a theory that the sooner you start to exercise the muscles that control the urine flow the better. The longer they are out of service, and stretched by the catheter, the tougher it will be regaining control.

2) As nice as it is to have a catheter and drink all the tea you want at bed time and still sleep through the night, come around days 7 - 10 you're going to be fed up with the rubber tail and sanity, to say nothing of the family not locking you in your room and not letting you out until you can be nice to the rest of the family, dictates a timely removal.

Good luck .... Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9, so far, so good
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"  


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 8/1/2009 2:14 AM (GMT -6)   
I forget the exact numbers...but the "bulb" that holds the cath in is filled with like 15ml?? of fluid. My surgeon removed a third of the fluid cause sitting in an office chair was killing me. The reduction helped a ton...Had the cath in for five weeks.
Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


oldflyingfarmer
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   Posted 8/1/2009 3:30 AM (GMT -6)   
The cath is the worst part of the recovery. While mine was not painfull, it eas uncomfortable, all of the time. As said earlier, I could never get comfortable. My cath after surgery had 15 ml in it. I earlier had a TURP procedure to find my cancer, the cath then had 30 ml. It was painfull and uncomfortable and hurt coming out. I guess they had cut inside right where the cath went. If my doc agreed, I would look to get it out at the two week interval, with his permission.
Good luck, we all are pulling for you.
Age 55
Diabetic on insulin pump
PSA started rising in 2007
2 negative biopsiesthru 2008
2009 PSA 31, TURP found Gleason 9 cancer
Started holistic approach while waiting for surgery
RRP on May 27, 2009
Cath out 2 weeks after surgery
Very little drip, some pain
Had my 6 week post op doctor visit. PSA was <.05 so I am pleased.
Still some ED problems but seeing improvement. May try VED. Started on dailey pills.


Sherkaner
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   Posted 8/1/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Sleepless09: Thanks for your advice. Reading back all of the responses I have received tells me that the average time of catheterization is 7 to 10 days for the posters. I was not aware that one of the nurses in my surgeons office could do this. I only expected, like I stated previously, a two week run with the thing. Then when I found out the doc was to be away at that mark I made an appointment to have the Cystogram in the morning, and see said surgeon that afternoon. I do not have a car and rely on a family member to ferry me around so being able to take care the Cystogram and have the tube removed-and ask the surgeon a hell of a lot of questions that a nurse might not be able to answer-saves my brother from having to interrupt a second working day.
I will phone my surgeon's office on Monday and bring up some of the information I have learned here and take it from there. I have a high tolerance to pain medication, needing more than normal to do the job, so I am going through the oxycodone rather quickly and may need to have the script re-filled. Doing this always makes me feel uncomfortable because I sense from docs that I might be using the pills for recreational purposes. Oh Well...I'll keep you guys informed because I believe this whole process is not going to be as easy as I have been led to believe.

Ciao
Science has all of the answers. We just don't have all of the science yet.


geezer99
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   Posted 8/1/2009 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Given the number of days out that you are from surgery it is surprising that you still need prescription pain meds. When you call your doctor's office you should probably mention your pain. It may just be how your surgery went, but your doctor should have a chance to consider the issue.
While about seven days is normal for having a catheter in, some go much longer. Again, you want your doctor thinking about your specific case and what is best for you.

One more thing about pain meds -- they cause constipation and you definitely do not want to be straining things down there. Follow your docs instructions about laxatives and stool softeners and when you call ask if the fact that you are still on the pain meds should change these.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads


Sleepless09
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   Posted 8/1/2009 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Good advice, as always, from geezer. My push to get the catheter out is based on your having it in for as long as your doctor thinks it should be there. He/she was the one to sew up the urethra and will be the best judge of how long. But, once it's ready to go, I'd want rid of it.

The whole process may be easier than you'd been led to believe, or tougher. As you can see from this forum, each of us is very different and I suspect this forum, and others like it, are, almost by definition, places that attract more people who have issues than those that don't. The median experience here is likely worse than in the PCa treatment community as a whole. The guys who got it done, went home, never hurt, were dry in a few weeks and golfing soon after don't need much support ---- and I know several guys like this.

Keep us posted.

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9, so far, so good
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"  


Purgatory
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   Posted 8/1/2009 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
geezer, everyone's pain threshold is different. Some guys think they are tough, macho men for not taking pain meds after surgery. Any dr or nurse will tell you that you can retard the healing process by taking on unneeded pain. It puts your whole body under stress when you are in pain.

Sherkaner may or may not need more pain meds, in his heart, only he knows how much he is hurting. Just a bit sensitive on the pain med remarks, what is a pain level 2 to one person might be a 8 to another.

A good doctor will make sure his patients have what they need, but not at the expense of making Pain Pill Junkies out of them. At our local ER, it's been estimated that 75% of the people waiting there are looking for any excuse to get pain pills. That's a sad testimony.

David in SC
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
 
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 8/1/2009 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
PS, as a personal note to the above, after my open surgery, I required 3 weeks of Loratabs to tolerate the level of pain I was act. I then weaned off of them with no difficulty, and went for about 3 weeks of high doses (dr. reccomended) of Advil type OTC meds.
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
 
 


mikey1955
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   Posted 8/1/2009 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Sherkaner,

I had more "surgical" pain recovering from a hernia op than my (open) RP. The catheter was painful sometimes, especially trying to sit at the computer. Only post-op pain issue I had was bowels restarting after the anesthetics and constipation from pain meds (and anesthetics). And some rectal pain (and penis pain) which is still around but subsiding. I may have bruised my penis with the catheter in and doc says rectal pain will subside. I also leaked around catheter when doing a BM. Sometimes even a bit of blood. Keep the tip of your penis clean and the catheter at your penis. On suggestion from nurses, I pulled my penis back off the catheter rubber a bit to ensure cleaning the catheter (and penis) properly. Don't use vaseline or any oil based product on your penis or catheter. Use K-Y as has been suggested. 

Welcome to the other side of surgery and welcome here. Lot's of good people here.

 

Mike


Lower left groin hernia: mesh and large scar: surgery early 2006
Nov/Dec 07 and March 08 and now Dec 08: Severe perineal pain (between scrotum and rectum). Septra/Bactrim for 8 months (Nov 07-Jun 08) for diagnosed prostatitis.
PSA start of 2008: 5.3..... PSA June of 2008: 7.3
14 DRE all benign or nothing felt
TRUS Biopsy Nov 08: Got copy of pathology (see below). Prostate about 40 cm sq.
General Health: pretty good, 5' 10", 180 lbs, slim.
Bone scan Dec 08: Negative
Barium enema X-ray (March 09 due to several days of blood in stool)
MRI with endorectal coil (April 09 as part of a study)
3D advanced TRUS (April 09 as part of a study)
CT (April 09 as part of a study)
Biopsy Pathology: 5 of 8 cores positive, adenocarinoma in both lobes. 30%-65%. One core perineural invasion. 2 cores "foamy" and suspicious. All +ve cores, 3+3 GS 6.
Open RP surgery: May 5/09 Surgeon spoke to my wife and was very positive. Said both nerve bundles spared and not damaged. Bilateral lymph node dissection performed. Discharged 48 hours after surgery. Staples out, catheter out and pathology sheduled for May 21.
Post Surgery Pathology: pT3a N0 MX, extraprostatic extension (EPE), stage III prostate cancer, lymph nodes clear, seminal vesicles clear, Gleason upraded to 3+4 GS 7. EPE within surgical margins. Other than prostate and EPE, all tissue removed negative for cancer involvement.
Physical State: Getting back to working out slowly. Urinary control pretty much from the time of catheter removal. Rectal pain, sometimes bad but, told is normal. Erectile function at best 25-30% of presurgery. Trying Levitra...first 10 mG dose gave me nasal congestion, 50% chubby and a 24 hour headache...may go away with more use or change of meds. Considering pump. Recovery from surgery going very well.
Mental State: Pre-surgery anxiety gone. Positive attitude. Some anxiety about seeing radiation oncologist and upcoming 3 month PSA. 


engineer55
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   Posted 8/2/2009 11:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Just for the record I was 7 days cath and it was removed by the nurse, ZIIIIp its out
Dx'ed 5/08 one core 2%  out of 12  3+3 gleason
DREs all negative
PSA was in the 3-4 range then jumped to 7
I have the enlarged prostate, on the order of 100cc.  After taking Avodart for 3 months  my
PSA was cut in half.
I did Active S for a year but concluded that I didn't want a life
of biopsies and Uro meetings.
DaVinci on 6/24/09  UCI Med Center  Dr Ahlering, long surgery based on size and location
Final was 5% one side all clear, but had a huge 90 grm prostate
Now we work on pee control, ok at night but sitting is a big problem.


Colin45
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   Posted 8/2/2009 9:53 PM (GMT -6)   
It would be interesting to find out why there is such a difference in pain for what is basically the same operation David needs meds for about 6 weeks and Mike had very little pain at all I fortuantly am in Mike's gang less the 1 week from a 5hr op I can do most things pain free (can cough but not tried the sneezing yet) not on meds other that antibiotics in somethings I fell a lot better than pre op (I will discuss this in another thread) I know all people are different but was wondering if it might be the doctors technique I cannot believe that it is all down to different people's pain threshold
 
BM movement I was made to have a BM in the hospital on the third day after the op and after that you do not have a problem with BM in Thailand it is normally the other way around


 
 
Age 64 From UK now in Thailand Baby boy born 2/14/2009
 First PSA was showing 9.73 on 1/21/09.   on 5/7/09 PSA 9.78  Free PSA 0.83   Free:Total  PSA 0.08 
1/28/09 Biopsy carried out 12 core results show no adenocarcinoma
5/15/0924 Core biopsy results Gleason'S Grade 3+2=5
Involving approx 30% of one out of 12 cores on each side no perineural or angiolymphatic invation identified
One side PIN High Grade Bone scan clear 
Open surgery planned for 7/27/09
 

Post Edited (Colin45) : 8/2/2009 10:14:23 PM (GMT-6)


jacketch
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   Posted 8/3/2009 10:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Colin45 said...
It would be interesting to find out why there is such a difference in pain for what is basically the same operation David needs meds for about 6 weeks and Mike had very little pain at all

Pain is an interesting phenomena. I had little pain after open surgery and never took more than Tylenol. However I have to say that I can't even get my teeth cleaned without taking some type of pain med and I have good teeth and gums.
62yo
V10.46 Dx Feb-09
RRP 5-5-09
No adverse SE
PSA 6-19-09 -0-
 
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Scouter
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   Posted 8/10/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I've looked over a few threads.
Thank you all who show concern to us new members.
If surgery was day 1, then this is day 8 for me.
The advice you've all have shared here will help.
In addition to some common discomforts, I have a prickly rash on the front and sides of my torso and on my legs. Some days it itches a lot. I discontinued the pain meds yesterday (again) and now I will discontinue the stool softners. Those are the only 2 new things in my diet.
I also wake up almost hourly during the night soaked in sweat starting the 2nd of 3rd night. Nurse says that's not a normal post-op reaction.
Age 53, PSA 4.7, biopsy 1/12 positive, Gleason 3+3=6
DaVinci 8/3/09


James C.
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   Posted 8/10/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Scouter, welcome to the forum, sorry you have to be here. I had the flushing and sweating for probably 3 months after my open surgery, and still do at times. I think it is more common than the nurse may realize.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.10ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery

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