Chemicals in pot may help fight prostate cancer

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JerseyG
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   Posted 8/19/2009 12:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I just read this article on the web.  What do all you baby boomers think about this?
 
 
Pre-op PSA:  0.9
Biopsy: 3/12 cores pos  20% 30% 50%
Gleason 3+3=6
Robotic RP:   Aug 08 1 day hospital stay, cath out on 8th day.
Post Surgery Pathology Report: Gleason 6, pT2c, tumor 10% contained in prostate gland, all margins negative. Negative lymph nodes
Post Op PSA: Dec 08 <0.1
Post Op PSA: Mar 06 <0.1


James C.
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   Posted 8/19/2009 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Aw, bummer man, sorry but I gotta give ya a downer- discussion of medical pot is a violation of Forum rules. Sorry, I don't make the rules, the owner does... Everyone can read the link, but let's not get a thread going here. ok? So before a big discussion breaks out about MM, here it is:

Forum Rule 2. No discussion of medical marijuana use.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.05ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery

Post Edited (James C.) : 8/19/2009 1:03:46 PM (GMT-6)


Purgatory
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   Posted 8/19/2009 1:35 PM (GMT -6)   
No disussions about blunts, big boys, or doobies?
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/9 .16
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, 8/14 met with Rad Oncl, still talking option, 8/18 - had laser scope surgery to clear blockage, now on Catheter #7
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 8/19/2009 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Before the thread gets zapped - I have a lot of first hand experience with the subject matter and I had prostate cancer skull

James C.
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   Posted 8/19/2009 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Come'on guys, don't make me be the bad guy... wink
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.05ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery


goodlife
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   Posted 8/19/2009 2:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I still think too much s*x causes it ! Maybe the forbidden topics are related !
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


James C.
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   Posted 8/19/2009 2:59 PM (GMT -6)   
ok, what next? the third component- rock and roll? I suppose the high levels of sound or the low levels of bass could be blamed for PCa? smilewinkgrin
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.05ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery


Ziggy9
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   Posted 8/19/2009 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
mikey1955 said...
Important point near the end of the article...mental disorders. I'm a boomer and almost without exception guys that I've worked with over the years that indulged often were unproductive, unmotivated and often plain dumb. Same goes for over-indulgence of alcohol. Sorry James, I've seen what consumption of that stuff (and other so-called-recreationals) and alcohol does to productivity, and not only at work.

Beat me up, anyone, if you want.

IMHO Mike


No way can you compare what alcohol does to the "evil" weed. If it was effective against PCA then I should never have had it to begin with. I drink very little but have always been a pot head. A very productive pothead too Mikey.. Show me any mental disorders that are based on smoking.

James this seems a valid article and the discussion of cabbinoids is on topic as much as lycopene selenium and other substances. But censor if you must that will remind me once again along with this being such a prosurgical site why I stopped posting here. Although I do look in every now and then. But to see those with low risk PCa being persuaded into choosing radical surgery I still find very depressing. So hi all to all those who still remember me Well at least until this thread gets the old HW censorship hammer to fall on it.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


goodlife
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   Posted 8/19/2009 3:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Realziggy,

Interested to know what your PSA was in April. Have not seen your sig before.

Thanks, and don't be too hard on us guys who got cut on. We were just doing what we thought waqs best !
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


James C.
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   Posted 8/19/2009 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Fellows , again I want to state its the Owners Rules that state no discussion of medical pot. If Peter doesn't want the discussion, he has good reasons for it and that's good enough for me. I, along with doting and Tony volunteer to moderate this group as service to the members who depend on it for their various reasons. Part of the responsibility of being a moderator and supporting the members is to help keep the Rules of the owner of this site. Whether you agree or disagree with any of them, you should have read them before first posting, and your continued posting is an acknowledgement of your willing to follow his rules. If someone gets dinged for a rules violation, it isn't censoring, it isn't personal (unless you make it so in your own mind) , it's keeping the rules that we all agreed to. If you think it's censoring, then consider that if we don't have rules in any group, the same group will quickly dissolve into chaos as individuals try to push their agendas. Maybe I was raised in Mayberry, but the world I live in asks me to be thankful for the blessings of this site, for the work of its moderators and for each of our members who come here for info, shared experiences and fellowship. To be blamed for 'censoring' is to be blamed for trying to make this forum one that everyone can feel comfortable in and can feel like they can share their feelings, needs and such without fear of being mistreated. I am proud to say that I will continue that task until I feel the need to move on or am fired by Peter...

smilewinkgrin
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.05ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery


Paralleli
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Total Posts : 123
   Posted 8/19/2009 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Realziggy -

How you doing! Greetings from your fellow non-surgical guy in Denver. Hope all is well with you. I just wanted to say "hey" they before they zap this thread.....
@ 53 yrs PSA 4.8
T1c – Gleason 3 + 3
IMRT 1/07 thru 2/07 (42 treatments)
PSA 6/07 – 0.76
PSA 12/07 – 0.36
PSA 6/08 – 0.72
PSA 12/08 - 1.06
PSA 6/09 - 1.02


Tudpock18
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Total Posts : 4156
   Posted 8/19/2009 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Guys:
 
I must agree and support James on this...the rules are the rules...
 
But, realziggy...glad to you have you stop in.  I have missed your posts and wondered how you were doing.  How about a TFT update...your personal status and the protocol?  As far as I know, you were the only one on this forum who had taken that route and your perspective on that is missed  (at least I miss it...LOL).
 
Tudpock


Age 62, Gleason 4 +3 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2 of 16 cores cancerous, 27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 7/1/09.  6 month PSA now at 1.4 and my docs are "delighted"!
Tudpock's Brachytherapy Journey: http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1305643

Post Edited (Tudpock18) : 8/19/2009 4:55:19 PM (GMT-6)


Purgatory
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   Posted 8/19/2009 4:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Realziggy, see you haven't changed a bit. Still judgmental on other people's treatment. You may have taken the path different, but for most of us mortals, we tend to choose the tried and the true. Been here a while, I can't think of a single man that has been talked or pressured into any treatment method We respect each man's freedom of choice and understand there are many reasons why a person makes their own treatment choice(s).

David in SC
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/9 .16
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, 8/14 met with Rad Oncl, still talking option, 8/18 - had laser scope surgery to clear blockage, now on Catheter #7
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


goodlife
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   Posted 8/19/2009 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
For the record James, I never said the P word, the C word, Or the M word. Please be sure my record with the big guy is clean.
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


James C.
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   Posted 8/19/2009 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
The reason for the rule, is the fact that the subject is an illegal, controlled substance, according to federal law and the vast majority of state laws. As such, the HW Forum won't be a platform for the discussion and/or acceptance of users discussions advocating it.

geezer, if you will notice, the post and the link is still up and nothing about it has been suppressed. It is readily available to click the link and read it yourself. I am asking that the discussion of MM not be started or continued on this thread. So far, not a single word of any posters has been edited or deleted.

There's no reason to get all excited, fellows.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.05ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery

Post Edited (James C.) : 8/19/2009 5:55:52 PM (GMT-6)


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 8/19/2009 5:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I see the article as not relating to medicial marijuana usgage which is highly contraversial. Until such a time that this is recognized by the medical community it will stay contraversial. I have seen studies that say that canniboids (extracts) can help medically, but again, like suppliments they are not proven and factual and very short of qualified random study trials. I fully recognize the intent of the post here is valid discussion, and know that our Admin has decided to remove medicinal "pot" threads with no bad feelings towards the poster. So no one would be held or viewed differently.

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Bluenose
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   Posted 8/19/2009 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   

 

  Hey Ziggy good to hear from ya'!


mikey1955
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   Posted 8/19/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
My original post to this thread has been deleted. It is not relevant to the article, which I had misinterpreted. Apologies. Mike
-Nov/Dec 07, March 08 and Dec 08: Severe perineum pain . Septra/Bactrim for 8 months for diagnosed prostatitis.
-PSA start of 2008: 5.3..... PSA June of 2008: 7.3
-14 DRE all benign or nothing felt
-TRUS Biopsy Nov 08: 5 of 8 cores positive GS 3+3 or 6. 30-65%. Perineural invasion.
-General Health: pretty good, 5' 10", 180 lbs, slim.
-Open RP surgery: May 09 both nerve bundles spared. Bilateral lymph node dissection performed. Discharged 48 hours after surgery.
-Post Surgery Pathology: pT3a N0 MX, extraprostatic extension (EPE), stage III prostate cancer, lymph nodes clear, seminal vesicles clear, Gleason upraded to 3+4 GS 7. EPE within surgical margins. Other than prostate and EPE, all tissue removed negative for cancer involvement.


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 8/19/2009 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Easy Geezer, I speak for myself. I am not against this research. Clearly we can permit civil discussion about research. But we have to do it without posts that are directed to others in a defematory way. I see no reason for you to take shots at anyone here as there has been no action taken.

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Ziggy9
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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm surprised this thread is still up. For those who asked about my PCa status I'll repeat it. Sorry my sig is not updated I wasn't planning on posting here again after reporting the new developments last spring, and truthfully I forgot how to update it. I had a 12 needle biopsy last April all negative. My PSA I think was like .50 I forgot. But it was fine being I still have most of a working prostate left. Only a small section was frozen. Now I just go in for an annual PSAs and DREs. Can it reoccur? Of course but for now life is back to normal.

Hey there paralleli homeboy. Oh well as much as two white Rocky Mtn guys can be homeboys.

Tudpock you're still here? I figured you as a brachy guy would be gone by now. You have stamina, kudos to you.

Purgatory I'm sorry to have read of your recent problems you really have been through hell. That said when I left I did say thgis is a wonderful site for those with advanced PCA and back then I left it had evolved more into that. Presently I'm not sure what it's like here. I look in just occasionally. That said I had to leave because I became more and more depressed and less able to hold my tongue to all those who were vowing for radical surgery with low risk PCA. Some of course less riskier than others. Yes most of you think you support all treatments equally but you don't. It's always well if I elect radiation now I can't use it for salvage later. when in truth most who need salvage treatment after surgery wouldn't have had it gland contained anyway. That's one persuasion prevalent here and has always been. Then of course are those who just have to have it out of them now!!! As if all cancer is the same or that all PCa is the same, it isn't. I just couldn't hold my tongue any more for those who are lets say 60ish on up where in all likelihood with low numbers would die of something else before the PCa got them. Like I said I'm not talking about those with advanced PCa. Hell I'm not sure my treatment will prolong my life and if I had to do it again I may well have chose active surveillance, but I digress. Thus I close with those here or in the future arriving with common low risk pCa do you really want to risk loss of continence be it for months or ever, ED problems which if married or serious relationships can have disastrous effects on some of them for what in reality my just be an extreme paranoid reaction to anxiety? Like I always said when I was regular here take your time on deciding on a treatment, there are no do overs. for my final post I will include a link to my Urological Oncologist just so some of you may see there are other options than radical ones or just watching. http://alprostate.com/default.aspx

One more thing what's wrong about talking about medical marijuana on a cancer site? It would help some here with chemo like it does for those with other cancers. There's a few states like mine where it's becoming more legal and active. I think it's around 10 states that have voted for medical marijuana. I may be wrong on the number. So I can see stores here that sell it with a prescription but can't talk about it on this site??? Oh the wacky politically correct medically incorrect world of Healing Well. Another reason I'll be gone now. Bye guys think twice if you have low risk PCa. Anxiety is easier or at least more pleasant to live with than pads and waking up in a hospital bed elderly.. Politically incorrect Ziggy

BTW I'm an official old fart too. I just turned 60
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Well hello Ziggy,
Your point is well taken on the MM usage. And one might think that if MM is legal in 10 states, is it legal in the state this site resides? Unfortunately, you never know what ramifications a site could face by promoting or allowing certain discussions. Certainly belongs with the lawyers not the moderators. This site and myself included has no problem with your choice in treatment, nor with anyone elses.

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Purgatory
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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I think its important to remember that this is Peter's web site, his investment, his reputation, etc. Our fine moderators, of which I was a former for a short period, are doing and saying what they should say. They have a responsibility to protect Peter's interest. It's his game and his rules.

I agree with James, our esteemed moderator, there is no surpression going on here. He could have justly shut down the thread right from the beginning, but is trying to be tolerate in this situation.


Geezer, I think you are way out of line calling Peter cowardly and using the term Lord with him in a condenscending way. I like you and your posts, but this is uncalled for, and you owe him and the group and apology.

David in SC
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/9 .16
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, 8/14 met with Rad Oncl, still talking option, 8/18 - had laser scope surgery to clear blockage, now on Catheter #7
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Ziggy9
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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   
TC-LasVegas said...
Well hello Ziggy,
Your point is well taken on the MM usage. And one might think that if MM is legal in 10 states, is it legal in the state this site resides? Unfortunately, you never know what ramifications a site could face by promoting or allowing certain discussions. Certainly belongs with the lawyers not the moderators. This site and myself included has no problem with your choice in treatment, nor with anyone elses.

Tony


Tony in what country do you live where "allowing certain discussions" is illegal? Unless HW is selling it by the bag there in no way promoting anything the members here discuss. Sheesh no wonder I stopped posting that is ludicrous. If I confess I drank beer at age 16 is HW promoting the use of alcohol by minors? Oh well Tony you can chase straw men I guess,, bye
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
 
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
??? "allowing certain discussions" is illegal? ???
Hmm I don't think that is what I said. Anyway...

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Geason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


geezer99
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   Posted 8/19/2009 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
But there have been threats!!!!!!
and as we see some posts have been deleted.
I have no tolerance for the unlawful use of drugs, but I have less tolerance for a refusal to discuss legitimate research.


As far as being defamatory, particularly to BRAVE and HONEST LORD Peter who BRAVELY and HONESTLY makes the rules and then BRAVELY and HONESTLY hides leaving the moderators to defend them, I apologize with all the sincerity that I
can muster if in any way I have impugned his BRAVERY or his HONESTY.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads

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