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Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/13/2009 8:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Here's the Full Disclosure Statement:
"I have nothing to do with Yoga bear, or psa-rising, " signed Jeff aka Worried Guy
My wife read about this in a magazine while at the doctor's office and thought some of you might be interested.
Apparently Yoga classes are mostly women and they are trying to encourage men to attend.
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On the psa-rising.com site: Received from Halle Tecco, founder of YOGA BEAR, a non profit offering free yoga classes for cancer survivors:

Hello, my name is Halle and I’m the Executive Director of Yoga Bear, a non-profit that provides free yoga to cancer survivors across the US, through 125 partner yoga studios. Most of our participants are female, and we’re trying to get more men involved! Since prostate cancer is so common for men, we wanted to reach out to your organization. Could you please let your community know that we offer free passes to yoga studios for survivors interested in trying yoga?
Thank you,

http://www.yogabear.org/
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You have to be more than 2 months post -op, have permission from your doc, and be willing to attend classes regularly. (Seems like a particularly good way for some of the single guys here to meet women who care about their health. Also, you don't have to worry about bringing up "the subject". The women will probably guess you only shoot blanks.) Oh! And you might actually increase your flexibility and get some exercise too.
Let me know how it goes because my wife won't let me attend. She says I can work on my flexibility at home.
Jeff
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
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RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
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One Month Status:
Potency - 9/7 7 weeks Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 3-4 full pads per day
9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea, I know)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05


Purgatory
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   Posted 9/13/2009 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
LOL, your wife won't let you go? My wife would be thrilled if I were to do something like that. She's not worried about someone wanting this tired, wore out, balding, grey hair man, that shoots from an empty gun. I will check out the link though.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out after 38 days


Sonny3
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   Posted 9/13/2009 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Really LLOOLL. My wife told me to recuperate from my surgery and sign up.

Told me it's time for me to be the flexible one. She said I have been making that demand of her for far too long.

What a woman, huh?

Sonny
60 years old
PSA November 2007 3.0
PSA May 2009 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

Surgery set for September 17th, 2009 with Dr. Mani Menon at the Henry Ford Medical Center in Detroit.


Purgatory
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   Posted 9/13/2009 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Followup, I just enrolled there, and we will see what happened. I told them point blank about me being unemployed long term and couldn't afford to pay.

Be interesting to see how they respond to one of us prostate cancer guys.

Nice web site by the way.

David in sc
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out after 38 days


Sonny3
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   Posted 9/13/2009 8:49 AM (GMT -6)   
David, I am going to follow your story on this. With surgery Thursday, I figure I am at least 2-3 months out from be able to participate.

Ever the vanguard and leader aren't you?

Thanks,

Sonny

BTW - did you get the email I sent to you last night?
60 years old
PSA November 2007 3.0
PSA May 2009 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

Surgery set for September 17th, 2009 with Dr. Mani Menon at the Henry Ford Medical Center in Detroit.


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/13/2009 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Have you ever seen a class of spandex clad females doing the "downward facing dog" pose? http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/491 I wouldn't be able to concentrate. On the other hand, it might save me a couple of bucks on Cialis...
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
----------------------------------------------
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
----------------------------------------------
One Month Status:
Potency - 9/7 7 weeks Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 3-4 full pads per day
9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea, I know)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05


Purgatory
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   Posted 9/13/2009 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
I do have a double jointed little finger on my right hand, would that make me a good candidate for yoga? Also, I use to think it was the religion of cults. Or is it culture that is the religion of yogurt. Get them confused.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out after 38 days


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/13/2009 10:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Remember, you have to watch the other participants very closely to make sure you are doing the moves correctly. Very closely indeed. It is important to flex those glutes precisely. One maximus flexure before a minimus flexure and you might have a medius pop out onto the floor. That's why you have to study the rippling spandex as much as possible.
(Now can you see why my wife does not want me taking that class?)

Post Edited (Worried Guy) : 9/13/2009 10:05:36 AM (GMT-6)


Arnie
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Total Posts : 374
   Posted 9/13/2009 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I took a Yoga class several years ago with my wife before cancer came on the horizon. It was one of the hardest, yet most satisfying workouts I've ever done (and I do weight training and running on a regular basis). At the end of the session, I was as relaxed and peaceful as you'd ever wish. My flexibility improved greatly. If you have this opportunity to do it for free, I encourage all of you to give it a try ........and oh, the scenery yeah -------totally a win-win proposition.
Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)
PSA at Diagnosis-3.9
Biposy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3)
 
Surgery 1/26/09-DaVinci Robotic Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA
Dr. David Lee
 
Pathology Report- Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins, Gleason 7 (3+4), Stage T2C, Prostate 61.8 grams, gland involvement 2-10%
 
Catheter removed after 8 days, totally dry at 3 months. ED issues continue, Viagra (via ADC) nightly (100mgs), VED use in earnest at 6 months. "Ball Park Frank" plumping at this point.
3 month PSA--<0.1
6 month PSA--<0.1


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/14/2009 12:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Arnie, And for single guys it's a win-win-win!
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
----------------------------------------------
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
----------------------------------------------
One Month Status:
Potency - 9/7 7 weeks Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 3-4 full pads per day
9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea, I know)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05


RacingOyster
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Total Posts : 31
   Posted Yesterday 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   

I took Worried Guy's advice and contacted Yoga Bear. They were very nice, and set me up with a 60 day free pass to a local Yoga studio.

I expected that there would be a cancer survivors section, where I could work out with others in a similar situation as me, but that's not the case. If I followed through on this, I would be in the general populace, working out with completely healthy twenty-somethings and hard bodies.

I phoned the instructor at the studio, and she was a little concerned about a 55-year old with recent surgery taking on Yoga for the first time. She said her studio practiced "Astanga" Yoga, which could be intense.

If anyone else on the forum is doing this, I would be interested to hear of your experience.

So I thank Worried Guy for the idea, but I think I'm going to pass on this. Maybe I can find some of you guys in the Atlanta area and we can exercise by bending elbows at the local watering hole. That's about all I'm up for right now.


Living in the northern Atlanta suburbs.

Good health and no symptoms when my annual physical uncovered an elevated PSA.

Diagnosis at age 55: PSA 4.6 - positive biopsy 3 of 12 cores - Gleason 3+3=6.

Open Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy with bilateral lymphadenectomy on 6/18/2009.

Pathology report after surgery showed negative margins, cancer contained in capsule

(60 gram sample, Gleason 3+3=6, T2c N0 MX).

PSA at 4 weeks after surgery <0.1 (all other problems are minor considering being cancer-free).

Catheters required on-and-off for 34 days after surgery due to recurring urinary retention.

Anal fissure due to trauma to rectum from biopsy, surgery, and antibiotic-induced diarrhea.

Using 1 pad during the day for occasional stress incontinence, dry at night (12 weeks after surgery).

Taking 2.5 mg daily Cialis for ED with no joy so far.

 


Worried Guy
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   Posted Yesterday 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey RacingOyster,
I did a little research for you. Here's a good clip of the yoga positions. Some are a little advanced for beginners but after a couple of months you should be in the zone. Go for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nEsgpGJbr4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nEsgpGJbr4
I'll meet you at the bar. I need a drink.
Jeff

Post Edited (Worried Guy) : 9/24/2009 5:13:03 PM (GMT-6)


Tony Crispino
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   Posted Yesterday 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a side note to this.

Last Christmas Ruth and I bought a Nintendo Wii game console with the Wii Fit exercise system. I posted about it here and received some great feed back. Simply put it comes with a virtual yoga instructor, aerobics trainer, and various fun exercises that we enjoy in our own home. This might be a fun option that helps you stay in shape, or get in shape, and it doubles as a pacifier for when the grand kids come around...

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Gleason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Purgatory
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Total Posts : 25393
   Posted Yesterday 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Racing Oyster - I contacted them 14 days ago, still have not heard a word. I wonder that part about me being unemployed made a difference in their offer.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out  38 days, 9/14/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., agreed to start radiation, mapping on 9/21/9, 9/24 - mtg & procedure? with uro/surg, IMRT starts 10/5/9


Worried Guy
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   Posted Yesterday 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
David,
If you go to the link I supplied RacingOyster you will pick up a few tips. Watch and learn.
Maybe we'll do a little yoga over the weekend.
J

RacingOyster
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   Posted Yesterday 7:11 PM (GMT -6)   

David,

I hope that they aren't discriminating against you. I think that it is just that they don't have participating yoga studios lined up in every community. The studios on their list agree to a reduced fee paid for by Yoga Bear for some introductory period of time. North of Atlanta is a hot spot for exercise gyms, health spas, and yoga studios. They found one for me 10 minutes from my house.

It probably makes no difference in any case. You're just as old and decrepit as I am. wink

 


Living in the northern Atlanta suburbs.

Good health and no symptoms when my annual physical uncovered an elevated PSA.

Diagnosis at age 55: PSA 4.6 - positive biopsy 3 of 12 cores - Gleason 3+3=6.

Open Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy with bilateral lymphadenectomy on 6/18/2009.

Pathology report after surgery showed negative margins, cancer contained in capsule

(60 gram sample, Gleason 3+3=6, T2c N0 MX).

PSA at 4 weeks after surgery <0.1 (all other problems are minor considering being cancer-free).

Catheters required on-and-off for 34 days after surgery due to recurring urinary retention.

Anal fissure due to trauma to rectum from biopsy, surgery, and antibiotic-induced diarrhea.

Using 1 pad during the day for occasional stress incontinence, dry at night (12 weeks after surgery).

Taking 2.5 mg daily Cialis for ED with no joy so far.

 

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