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Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/14/2009 12:13 PM (GMT -6)   
With all the practice I've had since my surgery I can swap a Men's Guard in briefs faster than a NASCAR Team swaps tires.
I had only one mishap - a tucked in undershirt that wicked lemon juice up my abdomen. It felt surprisingly refreshing on a hot August day.

Today, I had a second mishap that is worth mentioning. While doing my high speed pad swap: - new pad between teeth; drop trou.; pull old pad from the rear; roll up; drop new pad in place rear first; yank up clothes. done! 10 seconds. Can do it with my eyes closed. This afternoon I missed noticing I forgot to secure the front of the pad to the brief. I quickly pulled everything up as usual, causing the pad to fold over, sticky side up making contact in places where it should never make contact - the NASCAR equivalent of forgetting to tighten the lugnuts.
My lugnuts are now hairless in a very tender area - a free Brazilian wax job, if you will.

Anyone have suggestions about the itching? ;-)
Jeff
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
----------------------------------------------
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
----------------------------------------------
One Month Status:
Potency - 9/7 7 weeks Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 3-4 full pads per day
9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea, I know)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05

Post Edited (Worried Guy) : 9/14/2009 12:57:16 PM (GMT-6)


geezer99
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   Posted 9/14/2009 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I like the NASCAR analogy. I was hoping to use it to convince my wife that I need to be "jacked up" before weekend pad changes. Soon we would have members bragging about how high they had gotten their weekend pad count!
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads


Sonny3
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   Posted 9/14/2009 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I gotta tell you guys this discourse is the funniest dang thing I have read in weeks.

I don't have my surgery until Thursday and have not had any continence issues, BUT, I dang near pee'd my pants reading this conversation.

I know it was not comfortable at the time, but as Larry the cable guy would say "That right there is funny I don't care who you are".

Sonny
60 years old
PSA November 2007 3.0
PSA May 2009 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

Surgery set for September 17th, 2009 with Dr. Mani Menon at the Henry Ford Medical Center in Detroit.


Purgatory
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   Posted 9/14/2009 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Jeff, if you want a serious answer, coconut oil, that's what they told me at the hospital after they shaved and prepped me for the big surgery in November.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out  38 days, 9/14/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., agreed to start radiation, does not rec. HT at this time, mapping on 9/21/9


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/14/2009 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi David. Hey, you know me. I never expect a serious answer. But that's a good tip.
As a side benefit cocunut oil might even improve the smell of the diaper pail. I'd been dumping fresh chives from our garden in there.)
How does she stand me.....?
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
----------------------------------------------
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
----------------------------------------------
One Month Status:
Potency - 9/7 7 weeks Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 3-4 full pads per day
9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea, I know)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05


geezer99
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   Posted 9/14/2009 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Household Hint:
Put the diaper pail next to the litter box and let the cat take the blame.

Sonny3
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   Posted 9/14/2009 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
You guys need to get together and take this show on the road. You are much more funny than Abbott and Costello.
60 years old
PSA November 2007 3.0
PSA May 2009 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

Surgery set for September 17th, 2009 with Dr. Mani Menon at the Henry Ford Medical Center in Detroit.


goodlife
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   Posted 9/14/2009 10:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Jeff,

Let's keep on the Nascar track. They put motor oil on their nuts !
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)


Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 9/14/2009 11:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Too darn funny!!!! Got to love it!
Jeff T Age 57
9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable
 10th month  PSA <0.01
ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily, going to try MUSE next


Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 9/15/2009 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Jeff,
I spilled my coffee reading your post. I was laughing so hard that my wife decided she had to find out what was so funny and joined me laughing.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 4 months
8 weeks PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/15/2009 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm glad at least somebody is enjoying the experience. I'm sitting here with a bald spot that highlights my now useless vasectomy scar while considering the merits of oil viscosities: coconut, straight 30 or synthetic.

I've noticed another interesting feature of this quick change technique. When I do the rip out maneuver, it makes the same sound as removing the velcro/cordura holster for my .380 LCP from my Uncle Mike's belt. I'll bet that leaves the guy in the next stall wondering!
Now I know why no one comments.

(By the way, the LCP will be available if anyone want to try it during the weekend getaway. As will the TENS unit, of course.)

Jeff
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
----------------------------------------------
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
----------------------------------------------
One Month Status:
Potency - 9/7 7 weeks Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 3-4 full pads per day
9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea, I know)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05


geezer99
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   Posted 9/15/2009 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh wow, now great ideas come together! California is in a budget crisis and an there is an opportunity for the governor to make a new movie and donate the proceeds to the state treasury.

And Now We Present
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Staring in
The Incontinator

opening scene:
A mens’ room, the camera is focused on the doors of two stalls.
Sound Effect:
A ripping, as if a depends pad were being removed from a pair of jockey shorts
Action:
Wise guy emerges from stall 1

Wise Guy: “Hey wimp! Did I just hear you changing your panty pad. At least my girlfriend peals hers off quietly”

Close up:
The door of stall two slowly opens.
Sound Effect:
A round is chambered in a Ruger LCP

Arnold (the Incontinator): “Dat is a problem dat you vill no longer half”

Sound Effect:
Six rounds fired in rapid succession
Scene:
Fade to black
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads


Sonny3
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   Posted 9/15/2009 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Jeff thanks so much for the warning and vivid descriptions of why you don't want to mess up this part of the process.

Running out of sharpie ink so I am having a giant rubber ink stamp made for my first package of guards:

THIS SIDE UP, STUPID!!!.

Thanks so much for the laughs. You'll never know how much it meant to me personally the last couple of days.

Sonny
60 years old
PSA November 2007 3.0
PSA May 2009 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

Surgery set for September 17th, 2009 with Dr. Mani Menon at the Henry Ford Medical Center in Detroit.


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/16/2009 6:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh Geezer! Hysterical! I gotta' go change my pad!
This can be another video to go with the list of instructional ones.

Jeff
You get first dibs with the LCP if you show up at the Weekend (GFMPH, Good for Men's Prostate Health) getaway next week. We can "road test" right in our back yard.

geezer99
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   Posted 9/16/2009 9:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Of course, those of us still bothered by leaks know that it is better to go walking than to sit and watch NASCAR races – but even that can give you ideas that could get you in trouble.

I motivate my walking by taking my dog with me. As a male, he believes that it is his duty to sniff each tree and to lift his leg at each one that has been marked by another dog. Our town has a lot of dogs and a lot of trees so, by the end of a walk he lifts his leg but is completely dry. On the other hand, I am still in danger of dribbling at any sudden tug of the leash -- it makes me so jealous! I have warned my wife that I might just give up on the pads and use the trees along with the dog. She says that if she gets a call from the police she will come right down to the station and bail out the dog!.

Worried Guy
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   Posted Today 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
My one mile jog includes 3 specific pit stop areas along the way. I figure, a pad holds 170 ml and costs 28 cents. So, for every 30 ml I pee on a tree I'm saving 5 cents toward my retirement.
That's another justification for the pea/pee gravel test area in the back yard. Hey, at my leak rate, it adds up.
I could be watching cable for the same price I'm spending on pads. (I'd better fire up that TENS unit and see if it does anything.)

Sonny3
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   Posted 9/19/2009 6:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I should have known better than to check in on this thread. Two days post surgery is not a good time to try and stiffle laughter. I am huggin tightly onto a pillow as I read the latest and doing my best not to have the SP catheter fly out of my belly. I guess it's a good thing they have a couple of stitches in it. I have printed this thread out a few times for others to see. It is so much fun to watch them cringe, double over in mock pain and laugh til the tears start to flow. If any of you haven't done this, try it. It's a hoot.

Thanks guys we all need the laughter,

Sonny
60 years old
PSA November 2007 3.0
PSA May 2009 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

Surgery set for September 17th, 2009 with Dr. Mani Menon at the Henry Ford Medical Center in Detroit.


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/19/2009 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   
This morning I tried the TENS unit for the first time. As I type this note it's firing 120ms pulses of 100 Hz at the highest voltage I can stand every 2 seconds, directly across my perineum. It is the closest I can come to the feeling of a kegel contraction. I'm sitting at the kitchen table and am involuntarily jumping with every hit. So far (13 minutes) it's working. I am so afraid of leaking conductive urine and burning off my equipment I'm managing to stay dry. I wonder how long these batteries can last.

Oh my! I think I might have inadvertently discovered a new CIA intensive interrogation technique.

(Note to attendees of the GFMPH Outing next week - I have plenty of extra leads if you want to give it a shot.)

geezer99
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   Posted 9/19/2009 3:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Jeff
I thought you had me this time -- I mean, what can you say to a guy who wraps wires around his balls and then plugs them into an outlet? But then I remembered that re-purposing gadgets would have an appeal to you. I hope you realize that by moving the electrodes up several feet it would be possible to train yourself not to growl at the mailman. It would make delivering bills so much easier for him!

Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/19/2009 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Geezer,
Now let's not exaggerate here. I attached self adhesive, sterile electrodes at $5 a pair, high up on my inner thighs and straddling the perineum where my walnut used to be. I think that was a perfectly reasonable experiment. On the other hand, if I used the Wavetek like I had originally planned - that would have been crazy! The burns would have been hard to explain to my Uro.

By the way, I realize this is not enough data but, it's 5:00 PM I am still wearing my morning pad and it is not full! By this time I usually fill 2 pads! I am going to zap myself for another half hour tonight and see what happens.

And please...I don't growl at mailmen - I pee on their shoes.
Jeff

Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/20/2009 8:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Just a quick update. I zapped it for another 1/2 our last night before bed. I played a little more with the settings. At the same power/pain level you can adjust the unit to delver shorter pulses (50 ms) with higher voltage up to long pulses (300 ms) at lower voltage. I started with long, low voltages but the contractions felt like they were only on the surface. As I shortened the pulse and increased the voltage the contraction felt deeper like it was moving up into my body. I played with it until it felt like a kegel. 120 ms, one hit every 2 seconds. I tried to relax by reading the Economist but still quivered at every shot. I peed normally this morning at 7:00. It's 9:00am now and I'm still wearing the overnight pad. I'll keep tracking.

Unfortunately my right eye is twitching, my left hand is numb, we can't listen to NPR on the radio andI am constipated but those are probably unrelated issues. ;-)

geezer99
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   Posted 9/20/2009 11:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I was going to say that I was shocked by the outcome of your experiment, but since it is you getting shocked, surprised and pleased would be better word choices. I hope the good results continue. It would be great to have another non-invasive tool for fighting incontinence.

As I see it, the main drawback to the present stimulation system is that with the electrodes and control box it is pretty much for at home use only. It shouldn’t be too hard to get around the wired connections with flat plates on your thighs and electromagnetic coupling to matching plates on a chair. That way you could get a treatment any place you sat down.

My vote would be for baseball games. Right now, even without beer, I loose about an inning for a “pit stop” required from all the jumping up and down and shouting. Imagine if some of the seats were wired to help keep the pelvic floor contracted.

Of course there might be some technical issues.

Sports Announcer 1: Well Bill, I see that the fans behind third base are trying to inspire the home team by starting a wave.

Sports Announcer 2: I’m sorry to have to correct you Jim, but I think that is the Incontinence Section. It looks to me as if the voltage has been set just a little too high.

Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/22/2009 6:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Shocking result indeed! I just came inside after burning branches, cleaning up the orchard hauling chairs for the past three hours. I finally changed my overnight pad at 12:30!!! 14 hours!!!! It was full and I needed a shower badly. I shaved the inside of my thighs so the electrodes will adhere better.
I'm eating lunch now and will plug in the unit when I finish this message.

Guys, Granted, I'm certifiably insane, but am I the only person in the world who has ever tried this? Chiropractors use these things all the time. What could it possibly hurt? Ok, my balls might fall off but, heck, I don't need 'em anyway.
Ok here goes, time for my 30 minutes of "stimulation".
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I just did some checking. I went to Yahoo and entered "TENS Treatment for incontinence" and found many papers on the subject.
http://www.tensway.com/media/pdf/en/cefar-peristim-pro.pdf Note the picture on the cover of the manual. They're the same couple on the Augusta Medical Pump!
Oh well, I guess I'm not a crazy as I thought. (I'm disappointed.)

It's 9:00 pm. I made it through the day with the same pad! I'm going to take shower and change it anyway. Even if it does cost me an extra 28 cents. Divorce is much more expensive.
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Next day results, 9/21.
My balls did not fall off. And I wore the same pad all day again! Saved another 28 cents!
I had been at 3-4 pads per day and these past two days have been 2 and 1.5. I was working hard outside these past two days getting things ready so that might also be a factor. We'll see.
(Coincidentally I am starting incontinence therapy today. )

Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/22/2009 8:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Just in case anyone is still folowing this thread. I went to the therapist today. She, let me repeat, "SHE", gave me an ultrasound so I could see my pelvic floor move when I kegeled. (I couldn't see a heartbeat so I guess I'm not pregnant. Then she checked my pelvic floor muscles to see if I was squeezing equally on both sides. Personally I think she was looking for a prostate and didn't find one.
I told her that I had used the TENS and she said that was reasonable. "What setting did you use?" I repled: "150ms at 0.5 Hz". "Did you use burst mode?" "Yes." "That's fine." "Your lead placement is exactly where it should be." She could tell because I am one of those guys who's ancestors descended from the apes so I needed to shave my butt to get good contact.
Bottom line "Go ahead and use it. You are not going to hurt yourself and that setting will exercise the muscles. Keep on Kegeling, built strength in your legs, drink plenty of fluids, and come and see me in two weeks."
No magic bullet. Looks like today is a 2 pad day again.
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
----------------------------------------------
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
----------------------------------------------
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 9/17 2 months, Still no activity
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
9/17 2 months: Still 3 pads per day. At this rate I'll be fine in 2011.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05


Worried Guy
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   Posted 2/21/2011 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
After the other thread about bladder issues I had to look up this old one.
I was 7 weeks out of surgery and figured I'd be finished with pads in 3 months. You guys certainly helped put a positive spin on the situation.
I guess humor is where you find it - even if it's inside your pants.
Thanks,
Jeff
Age: 58, Mar 35 yrs, 56 dx, PSA: 4/09 17.8 6/09 23.2
Biopsy: 6/09 7 of 12 Pos, 20-70%, Gleason 4+3 Bone, CT Neg
DaVinci RP: 7/09, U of Roch Med Ctr
Path Rpt: Gleas 3+4, pT3aNOMx, 56g, Tumor 2.5x1.8 cm both lobes and apex
EPE present, PNI extensive, Sem Ves, Vas def clear, Lymph 0/13
Incont: 200ml/day ED: Trimix
Post Surg PSA: 10/09 .04, 4/10 .04, 7/10 <0.01, 12/10 <0.01
AdVance Sling 1/10/11
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