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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 137
   Posted 9/21/2009 1:53 AM (GMT -6)   

I am not trying to make this a medical liability forum, but I found the above site interesting. I was in this hospital for some neurosurgical training in 1977. While there I saw a neurosurgeon from Jacksonville, FL who came for the professor to treat his brain tumor. Looks like the USA's litigative reputation has come to light.

My daVinci was done in Luzern because it was 20 minutes from home. I had to pay a deposit and foot the rest of the bill myself. Since I pay Swiss taxes, I don't think my citizenship in the USA would exclude me in the eyes of this Zurich hospital.
70 years old USA citizen
Prostatic carcinoma dxed June 2009 by PSA (7.0) and then Bx
PSAs yearly since 2001 ranged 1.52 to 7.0
Neg. CT and BS
4 of 8 biopsies positive (all right side) Gleason Score 3+4=7
Robotic assisted total prostatectomy and node excision July 2009 in Luzern, Switzerland
pT2c G3 pN0 (0/14)
Catheter out in 5 days (home in 3 days)
No incontinence
Potency: beginning tumescence??? at 3 weeks post-op

Steve n Dallas
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 4849
   Posted 9/21/2009 5:59 AM (GMT -6)   

Corrected Link:

"The directive applies only to patients from [the US and Canada] who come to Zurich for elective [non-essential] health treatments," Zurich University Hospital spokeswoman Petra Seeburger told


Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Tony Crispino
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 9/21/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the post. While the US is mired in health reform, there is talk of limiting malpractice awards here but it has stiff resistence. I live in Nevada, which has been notoriously one of the top states in awards in malpractice suits. We had to have legislation changed a few years back when hundreds of doctors gave up their Nevada practices and moved on. The problem became so rash that we had only one state run trauma center serving over 1.7 million people in Las Vegas. A court order forced doctors to stay on duty as they all wanted to get out of the emergency business due to malpractice law suits. It has since been improved but still Nevada lags way behind other states in quality of health care.

I do not blame the Swiss for this action at all.

 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Gleason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  

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