The jungle of PCa and our system in general(Deja Vu)

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zufus
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   Posted 9/28/2009 7:46 AM (GMT -6)   
In some degree (not all) it almost does not matter to which institution or wonderful facility you might go to, their are set protocols and methods/agendas that hospitals follow and push unto the public as 'your only' choice(s) you have. They make no profits trying to sell or inform you that anything other than what they sell/push is any good for you or could be of any value or assistance in your disease (goes for all types of disease issues). Plus they have about zero incentive to go outside their (box), perhaps because if something goes bad, a lawsuit would be their reward, it is a profit center and not the house of Mother Theresa (lol). Getting a large sample of multiple opinions will help confirm this, if you are a total disbeliever.
 
You know you have a very honest doc when they inform you that they don't have all the answers, admits they don't know your outcome or what is actually best for you. It is obviously a different venue when docs have PCa or their close family members, they many times do not push or do the same treatments they sell or do, unto their family or themselves. This is mentioned by Dr. Strum about  this phenomena and e.g. Dr. F. Lee (PCa specialists and struck with this disease also) did not do 'normal' treatments or the one he founded (cryo-therapy). Their are many other examples of such. Why does this happen????
 
The drug companies would love to see you on their expensive drugs until you drop, i.e. it is all about the money and their wallet health, more so than your health. The profits on our drugs is disgusting and amounts to cashin on us patients. The multiple treatments that are handed out to some patients come with no guarantees and are more of a crapshoot, they can mislead patients into hearing their magic words 'cure', along discussions. Realize this is not fact but at best wishful thinking, probably something you or I would like to consider doing, in spite of the real facts cause it is a chance you might wish to take on life. Analyze before you jump into any decision on your own case, get other opinions, feedback, ideas from any source and add it to your 'knowledge-factual' base, then consider what you wish to do or risk.  Get informed about all possible side effects and risks, sometimes total disclosure of such is lacking, upfront from the 'vendor' and is another sad reality of the PCa jungle.
 
There are some people herein that have to come to realize the reality of this jungle little later, after the fact so to speak and probably noticed their original perspective and current perspective on this is not identical. The black and white of it shows its true colors as multiple shades of grey or something different.  So, where you originally over sold, had total disclosure, given all possible facts and risks and side effects you could encounter? To the newly diagnosed...hope you listened enough to keep your ears open when you get your opinion(s), listen up for over zealous docs and the word 'cure' that is a clue of over selling, the words possible cure, or maybe a cure is the more proper and honest verbage that should  be mentioned, or even the frankness of in your particular case cure is highly unlikely or even not possible or not seen in my clinical experience etc. (not many docs mention this one....it does not make for a sale/treatment i.e. unprofittable words). You can disagree of course, not every case is identical but the generality of this jungle is along these lines.
 
 
 
 
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Purgatory
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   Posted 9/28/2009 8:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Bro. Zufas,

You paint the blackest, darkess, most morbid possible picture of the entire medical community, the drug makers, doctor's in general. You bring up some good basic points of not believing everything you are told, not falling for the built in biases along the way.

I think much of your glass is in the half empty vs. half full thinking. The underlying bitterness can only mean you had a bad deal, and its left bitterness and gall inside you, and for that I pity you and wish we could help you.

I have been undergoing major medical maladies since age 28, and I just don't see all this doom and gloom and even conspiracy theory stuff with the medical community. Right now, I have a GP, Uro/Surgeon, and Radiation Oncologist that are actually consulting together on my case, assisting each other when needed, and you know what, they are all from entirely different practices.

At no point in my almost 2 year path with my uro surgeon, did he ever mention words like "cure" "its all gone, I guarantee it", etc. The people at the radiation clinic I am about to start with, have never said I will be cured, or it will kill all the remaining cancer. If anything, they are being too blunt and honest, because I have told every dr. I work with that I don't like smoke being blown up my a**.

There are times in your rare posts, that I think all you to is propagate fear and distrust among our new friends here. Their fears get exploited and hi-jack by your words. I am not sure this is a good service to provide.

Dont' get me wrong, I am 100% for free speech, expression and I deplore any kind of censorship. Just sticking up for the newly dx., or those about to be. Brother, they already are experiencing enough fear and dread just going through the process. Convincing them that its all bad out there, and don't trust your doctors and indirectly, their advice, is irresponsible in my opinion.

What can be done to help you, brother? I would really, really like to know. And where do you stand in your own case and stats?

You have been known to post some good useful information over the times, I know, I have read your words for many months, but at least think about toning down the fear/dread emphasis to our new friends here.

My best to your personal health and situation.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out  38 days, 9/14/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., agreed to start radiation, mapping on 9/21/9, 9/24 - mtg & procedure? with uro/surg, IMRT starts 10/5/9


qjenxu
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   Posted 9/28/2009 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
zufus

somewhat agree with you. as I fight with my son's asthma when he was little, and my own illness 6 years ago, and now, my husband's PC, I do feel that they(doctors) don't care much(in some degree) as they are not the one who suffer. it is just their day job. they use their best knowledge, experience to treat patient. but they forgot about you after you leave their office. If you are luck enough, you would have a doctor is really care and want help you and really good at what he is doing. that is why, we are here, we the patient who gathering to help each other, provide information, support, and pray. the most important is we, ourselves need become a pro in whatever we are dealing with. leaning, listen, think, to make a best decision regarding the treatment. and have faith to beat the illness and live better.
husband 55 years old
PSA July 2009 5.5
Diagnosis confirmed Sep 21, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 7 clear , 5 postive
<2%, 10%, 25%
Gleason Score (3+3) 6 in all positive cores
X-ray for chest and blood work waiting for the result


Sephie
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   Posted 9/28/2009 8:48 AM (GMT -6)   
From my perspective, there are 2 types of patients: those that work with their doctors (e.g., participate in the process) or those who want the doctor to do and know it all.

I have been lucky in my life and have not needed many doctors (except for annual exams and such). The past 18 months, after my John was diagnosed with PCa, we have met some wonderful and caring medical professionals. Each step of the way, they have worked WITH US to obtain the best possible advice and care. Can't ask for more. We have never heard the words "cure" and as far as I know, this word is not used in the treatment of any cancer.

Sadly, medicine can frequently be a "buyer beware" situation. With the advent of the Internet, those of us who frequently use the medical profession are better equipped to understand our situation and to participate in the treatment. For many of us "older" folk, we remember a time when if the man (or woman, though there weren't many "back then") in the white coat said something, it was taken as gospel. Unfortunately, the Internet has also created alot of confusion - especially with treatment of PCa - but, that's the price you pay for having information at your fingertips.

As to pharmaceutical companies, they are in business to make money. One would hope, though, that they take their business of saving lives very seriously. Regardless of whether or not their decisions are driven by profit or by saving lives, the outcome is the same: a good drug means success for them.

Zufus, I tend to agree with others on this board. Your posts can be informative but they are often inflammatory as well. From the sound of your recent post, it sounds like you might have had a less-than-positive experience with the world of medicine.

I do hope that you're doing well.

PS to Purgatory: we're doing well...emotionally and spiritually.
Husband diagnosed in 2/2008 at age 57 with stage T1c. Robotic surgery performed 3/2008. Stage upgraded to T3a (extraprostectic extension in posterior left). Perineural tumor infiltration present. Apex margin, bladder neck and SV negative. Gleason 3+4 (no change from biopsy). PSA results: April 2008 0.1; May 2008 0.0; August 2008 0.0; November 0.0; February 2009 0.0; May 2009 0.0; August 2009 0.1; September 2009 0.3. Appointment with two radiation oncologists on September 29 and October 2.


Purgatory
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   Posted 9/28/2009 9:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Sephie, enjoyed your response to this post. Always glad to hear that you and John are doing well in all areas. I only wish our brother Zufas could find some kind of comfort and peace in his journey.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out  38 days, 9/14/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., agreed to start radiation, mapping on 9/21/9, 9/24 - mtg & procedure? with uro/surg, IMRT starts 10/5/9


goodlife
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   Posted 9/28/2009 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
In many ways, I am glad I didn't know "everything" when I went in for surgery. I was well informed about sugery vs radiation vs other, but not so well informed on on what incontinence and ED really were.

But after a few months of dealing with those issues, which are getting better, soon, all the worrying, depression, and anxiety that they could have caused would have been counterproductive.

My parents weren't able to prepare me for puberty or the teen years. They let me enjoy my childhood. I just dealt with those issues as they came during those frustrating teen years.

Sometimes it is better to let tomorrow take care of itself. Today has enough things to deal with.
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)


John T
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   Posted 9/28/2009 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Zufus,
You bring another view that is useful to all. You could be more effective if you stated it in more positive terms than negative terms.
My mantra used to be if you had any kind of cancer you should be going to a major teaching center for the best care. I have found this to be the wrong approach as they do put you into a box and treat you by the extablished protocols.
I have found some private practioners, two of who you mentioned, that are far ahead of other practioners, these are on the leading edge of pc treatments and not afraid to try new approaches that show promise far ahead of the major institutions. Your PC is looked at as to be individual to you and not a nomogram table. More effort is put into identifying the biological identity of your individual PC so treatment can be tailored to you.
Zufus, I enjoy your posts and they have some gems of informaton; but many readers will react to your tone rather than to your message.
JohnT

64 years old.

PSA rising for 10 years to 40, free psa 10-15. Had 5 urologists, 12 biopsies and MRIS all neg. Doctors DXed BPH and continue to get biopsies yearly. 13th biopsy positive in 10-08, 2 cores of 25, G6 less than 5%. Scheduled for surgery as recommended by Urological Oncologist.

2nd Opinion from Dr Sholtz, a Prostate Oncologist, said DX wrong, pathology shows indolant cancer, but psa history indicates large cancer or metastasis. Futher tests and Color Doppler confirmed large transition zone tumor that 13 biopsies and MRIS missed. G7, 4+3, approx 16mmX18mm.

Combidex MRI in Holland eliminated lymphnode mets. Casodex and Proscar reduced psa to 0.6 and prostate from 60mm to 32mm. Changed diet, no meat and dairy. All staging tests indicate that tumor is local and non agressive. (PAP, PCA3, MRIS, Color Doppler, Combidex, tumor reaction to diet and Casodex, and tumor location in transition zone). Surgery a poor option because tumor is located next to the urethea and positive margin is very likely; permanent incontenance is also high probability with surgery.

Seed implants on 5-19-09, 3 hours door to door, no pain, minor side affects are frequency and urgency; very controlable with Flowmax and lasted 4 weeks. Daily activities resumed day after implants with no restrictions. Gold markers implanted with seeds to guide IMRT.

25 treatments of IMRT 6 weeks after seed implants. No side affects at all.

PSA at end of treatment 0.02 mostly the result of Casodex. When I stop Casodex next week expect PSA to rise. Next PSA in November. Treatments and side affects have greatly exceeded my expectations. Glad to have this 11 year journey finally conclude.

JohnT


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 9/28/2009 11:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Bob has extensive knowledge in prostate cancer. He has posted a great deal of very helpful information here at HW and elsewhere. While I do not agree with the conspiracy theories, I do believe these points are valid discussion points.

I find the information on Dr. Lee fascinating. A cryo guy who turned his treatment down? What does that say for Cryo? Better yet, what does that say about Dr. Lee? I believe he is still in business selling Cryo...

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Gleason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Sephie
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   Posted 9/28/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
No offense intended to Zufus...but John T hit it on the head when he said that some of us will react more to the tone than the content of Zufus' email.

Zufus, please don't take offense at some of our "criticism"...you are obviously a highly regarded member of this forum and your posts are always welcome. We are all dealing with uncertainty in this journey, especially those who are just starting out.

Again, I caution against the use of the word "cure" and yes, there are likely doctors who throw this word around. When someone hears they have a life-threatening illness, they will naturally latch on some definitive like "surgery can cure you." John and I were hopeful that the surgery would do the trick, as were many on this board. The outcome - in my signature - was not what we hoped for but we do not blame the surgery or the surgeon. Cancer is a tenacious disease and sometimes it requires more than one treatment to put it in its place. We would not have changed our opinion about the surgery even if we knew from the beginning that John had a 30% chance of recurrence.

To all our new members who come here: there is great hope for all PCa patients and for those who love them. Where you are we've been; we have felt your fear; and we have faced the decisions you face. Be strong, be brave, and be confident. You can and will beat this.

Off my soapbox...for now.
Husband diagnosed in 2/2008 at age 57 with stage T1c. Robotic surgery performed 3/2008. Stage upgraded to T3a (extraprostectic extension in posterior left). Perineural tumor infiltration present. Apex margin, bladder neck and SV negative. Gleason 3+4 (no change from biopsy). PSA results: April 2008 0.1; May 2008 0.0; August 2008 0.0; November 0.0; February 2009 0.0; May 2009 0.0; August 2009 0.1; September 2009 0.3. Appointment with two radiation oncologists on September 29 and October 2.


Purgatory
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   Posted 9/28/2009 12:00 PM (GMT -6)   
JohnT, I am not critizing the content portion of Zufas posts in general, I am talking about, as others said, the negative and dark tone to them. It takes away from the positive words and advice that is being said. I for one, not afraid of knowledge from any source, and like anyone else, i will glean out what I dont want or dont like.

But scaring newly dx men and/or the women that support them, is counterproductive. And the conspiracy theories get old about the medical profession and the drug companies in general.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of good high tech drugs out there that are saving lives and improving the quality of life for many patients. Drug development and getting FDA approval is an expensive business, so unfortanately, there is a biz side to that part.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20%, Contained in capsule, 1 pos margin
2009 PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/09 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/09 cath #6 - blockage, 8/09 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - out  38 days, 9/14/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., agreed to start radiation, mapping on 9/21/9, 9/24 - mtg & procedure? with uro/surg, IMRT starts 10/5/9


Tudpock18
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   Posted 9/28/2009 1:49 PM (GMT -6)   

Zufus' posts always make us think and usually stir up a little controversy...

My approach to all is medical treatment is "Trust, but verify" and "Knowledge is power". 

Tudpock


Age 62, Gleason 4 +3 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2 of 16 cores cancerous, 27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 9/1/09.  6 month PSA  1.4 and my docs are "delighted"!

zufus
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   Posted 9/28/2009 2:37 PM (GMT -6)   
So someone herein says it is irrespondsible to inform newbies that bias, agenda, sale tactics exist, and to beware of such is a bad thing? So ignorance and blind eyes are therefore bliss??? Sorry I tried to open some eyes maybe it is best to be totally ignorant and accept whatever is presented to you, thus being a door mat and in some cases maybe a guinea pig for the doc whom just got cerified to do Davinci or Brachy or Cyberknife etc. (a new expert)

I know many don't like the message or maybe the messenger, I risk getting spit on everytime I mention such, I am not sending this out because I'm bitter, but because I actually hope someone gets a fair and proper shake or perspective before diving into the shallow waters, might actually help someone make a more rational decision with less emotion based and impulse. Maybe you prefer the hey Joe you gotta PCa, yeah whatever amount it is cut it out tommorrow morning, I guarantee you will be cured and no real side effects or issues, I have performed plenty of these proceedures, we don't need to analyze your pathology slides or history data, let's go for it asap so you will be cured......perhaps you prefer this supposedly truthful sales message. Which is sold on a daily basis to many patients. Now it could be true in some cases and it could and is also patently false in many cases.

Oh!!! about those conspiracy theories(yeah I make them up as I go along-LOL), do the google search on Lupron (Tab Pharma???) or Zoladex (Astrazeneca) about the lawsuits they lost for multi-hundreds of millions of dollars, paid everyone off and sales are just as wonderful as ever today, they considered this the cost of doing business apparently(they no doubt work on a small margin-LOL). Understand what they did and how they got caught etc. Then you measure how wonderful our vendors actually are or is it better to shoot the messenger. Do you prefer the ignorance is bliss on this too?? This is not a lone incident (btw).

(no further replies from me)
 "I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member" (Groucho Marx)


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 9/28/2009 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
We've talked about the lawsuits before. Where there are lawyers there are lawsuits. McDonald's lost a huge one because coffee is hot. But they still sell millions of cups for millions of dollars daily.

Still the message of getting more opinions is good advice. So long as you are not just searching for someone to confirm your own opinion.

Is prostate cancer curable? Yup. The moment you die of something else, it's cured. But the truth be told, a vast majority of men who are treated for prostate cancer, never relapse.

I believe in the power of positive thinking. If you want to call me ignorant for that, then so be it. If questioning the integrity of everyone of your doctors or medications is what floats your boat, then enjoy the microcosm. But there is far less integrity in false accusation. So be careful who is providing you the information you use to accuse somebody of something.

So that said. I will digress back to my ignorant ways and try to stay positive...

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Gleason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 9/28/2009 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
For those who would like to see Bobs story. It is linked below.

Bob is doing great with DES and his story may impress you...
www.yananow.net/Mentors/RobP.htm

Tony

In case anyone might misconstrue my editing on this post and think I was censoring Tony (heavens forbid!) my edit was to add the html tags on his link to the webpage, so people could click it from there, rather than doing a copy and paste to their browser. So I was enhancing his post, not removing anything, ok? James C.

Post Edited By Moderator (James C.) : 9/29/2009 8:21:28 AM (GMT-6)


Mavica
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   Posted 9/28/2009 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
zufus is full of bitterness and we'll never know why - it seems his life is full of that, not just with the prostate cancer issue.  Maybe spewing the conspiracy or other negative stories constantly is good therapy for him, but I've chosen to concentrate on the positive things in life . . . and to enjoy it.  Some people see a glass half full, for others it's half empty.  For most of us, thankfully - life is not all doom and gloom.

Age:  60 (58 at diagnosis - June, 2008)

April '08 PSA 4.8 ("free PSA" 7.9), up from 3.5 year prior

June '08 had biopsy, 2 days later told results positive but in less than 1% of sample

Gleason's 3+3=6

Developed sepsis 2 days post-biopsy, seriously ill in hospital for 3 days

Dr. recommended robotic removal using da Vinci

Surgery 9/10/08

Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Chicago, IL

Dr. Robert Nadler, Urologist/Surgeon

Post-op Gleason's:  3+3, Tertiary 4

Margins:  Free

Bladder & Urethral:  Free

Seminal vesicles:  Not involved

Lymphatic/Vascular Invasion:  Not involved

Tumor:  T2c; Location:  Bilateral; Volume:  20%

Catheter:  Removed 12-days after surgery

Incontinent:  Yes (1/2 light pads per day)

Combination of Cialis and MUSE (alprostadil) three times weekly started 9-27-08

Returned to work 9-29-08 (18-19 days post-op)

PSA test result, post-op, 10/08: 0.0; 12/08: 0.0; 4/09: 0.0; 9/09: 0.0

 


James C.
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   Posted 9/28/2009 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   
In case anyone might misconstrue my editing on this post and think I was censoring Tony (heavens forbid!) my edit was to add the html tags on his link to the webpage, so people could click it from there, rather than doing a copy and paste to their browser. So I was enhancing his post, not removing anything, ok?
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
24 mts: PSA's: .04 each test since surgery, Bimix .3ml PRN or Trimix .15ml PRN


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 9/28/2009 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a new iMAC and I am using Safari. I forget to activate the links.

Thanks James C...

Tony
 Age 47 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8 : Surgery at The City of Hope on February 16, 2007
Gleason 4+3=7, Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
Positive Margins (PM), Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE) : Bilateral Seminal vesicle invasion (SVI)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 11, 2009): <0.1
 
My Journal is at Tony's Blog  
 
STAY POSITIVE!

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