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GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
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   Posted 10/20/2009 9:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Anyone experienced the natural supplement L argenine ?? it said to be the natural Viagra and to enhance male potency.... i had found this site and i am sure there are many more ....


http://www.themanschoice.com/LArginine.html?ucp=3616

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April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Nerve Sparing open RP / Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence not an issue, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:
1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response. 3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 : 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.

UPDATE 1 YAER FOLLOW UP
ED: With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse , AND AT 80% without any medications !!
Fully continent since removal of catheter.
PSA one year : 0.0 as of 6/13/ 2008 BIG Wooohoooooooooo!!!!
 
UPDATE AS OF Dec 2008 (18 months out)
PSA  still Undetectble!!!!
No continance issues!!!!
ED Mostly  getting better  with oral meds and the right woman  = good  sex
80% without any help   and 95% with oral Meds ... 100% with  VED
hope to keep progressing and by 24 months get back to 100% potency  WooooHoo!!!
 


Paul1959
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 598
   Posted 10/20/2009 9:12 AM (GMT -6)   
It is a NO/vaso dialator and is fairly safe taken in recommended doses. Many guys find that taking it with other PDE-5's (Viagra, Cialis, Levitra) increases their efficacy. We have one member who take a whole cocktail of L-Argenine, viagra and injections.

I have tried taking doses of 1000mg before a viagra and it certainly seems to boost it.
Paul


46 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
10/07 PSA 5.06 (Biopsy 11/07 1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report: Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.) Never a problem since.
ED - at one year, ED is fine with viagra.
One year PSA - undectable!

ED Website: www.FrankTalk.org - frank discussions of Erectile Dysfunction - check it out.

Post Edited (Paul1959) : 10/20/2009 9:26:39 AM (GMT-6)


James C.
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 4462
   Posted 10/20/2009 9:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I take a 2000mg capsule with my 50mg of generic Viagra. It's effect is to further the adsorption of the ed drugs by increasing the nitric oxide levels in the blood. I don't know if it is effective or not in my case, as I'm 2 years down the road and no ED recovery. Several other guys here have used it, especially about 2 years ago, it was the going thing here. In other uses, body builders use it as part of their working to adsorb nutrients and such, I think.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
24 mts: PSA's: .04 each test since surgery, Bimix .3ml PRN or Trimix .15ml PRN


MrGimpy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 504
   Posted 10/20/2009 10:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Arginine is very effective in its ability to add NO to improve blood flow and perhaps lower blood pressure, both of which would benefit ED

There are 3 types of Arginine

L-Arginine
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (AKG)
Arginine ethyl esther

The last 2 are more readily absorbed through the intestines

BUT, you can get 2-3grams of L-Arginine in just a 1/4 cup of walnuts and get other beneficial nutrients as well

Its a very safe supplement, many body builders take as much as 12-16 grams a day so taking a few 1g tablets during the day is no problem
Stats:
Age: 52
PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on Jan 09, 2009
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Gleason Score = 3+3
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, under .0


GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 206
   Posted 10/20/2009 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Paul1959 said...
It is a NO/vaso dialator and is fairly safe taken in recommended doses. Many guys find that taking it with other PDE-5's (Viagra, Cialis, Levitra) increases their efficacy. We have one member who take a whole cocktail of L-Argenine, viagra and injections.

I have tried taking doses of 1000mg before a viagra and it certainly seems to boost it.
Paul


thanks for the responses ... do you take it daily ? or only as needed with Viagra??
GB
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Nerve Sparing open RP / Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence not an issue, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:
1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response. 3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 : 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.

UPDATE 1 YAER FOLLOW UP
ED: With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse , AND AT 80% without any medications !!
Fully continent since removal of catheter.
PSA one year : 0.0 as of 6/13/ 2008 BIG Wooohoooooooooo!!!!
 
UPDATE AS OF Dec 2008 (18 months out)
PSA  still Undetectble!!!!
No continance issues!!!!
ED Mostly  getting better  with oral meds and the right woman  = good  sex
80% without any help   and 95% with oral Meds ... 100% with  VED
hope to keep progressing and by 24 months get back to 100% potency  WooooHoo!!!
 


engineer55
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 121
   Posted 10/20/2009 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I have taken la arginine in the past primarily thru arginmax, it gets a little pricey but if you stick with it I found it very beneficial.  Its also seems to help chlosterol and overall general heath.  You really need to take a pretty high dose for about 2 weeks to get results, like 300 mg per day.  Nothing like viagra at all it just seems to give you a much harder woody naturally. 
Dx'ed 5/08 one core 2%  out of 12  3+3 gleason
DREs all negative
PSA was in the 3-4 range then jumped to 7
I have the enlarged prostate, on the order of 100cc.  After taking Avodart for 3 months  my
PSA was cut in half.
I did Active S for a year but concluded that I didn't want a life
of biopsies and Uro meetings.
DaVinci on 6/24/09  UCI Med Center  Dr Ahlering, long surgery based on size and location
Final was 5% one side all clear, but had a huge 90 grm prostate
Now we work on pee control, ok at night but sitting is a big problem.


engineer55
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 121
   Posted 10/20/2009 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
corection that is 3000 mg per day
Dx'ed 5/08 one core 2%  out of 12  3+3 gleason
DREs all negative
PSA was in the 3-4 range then jumped to 7
I have the enlarged prostate, on the order of 100cc.  After taking Avodart for 3 months  my
PSA was cut in half.
I did Active S for a year but concluded that I didn't want a life
of biopsies and Uro meetings.
DaVinci on 6/24/09  UCI Med Center  Dr Ahlering, long surgery based on size and location
Final was 5% one side all clear, but had a huge 90 grm prostate
Now we work on pee control, ok at night but sitting is a big problem.

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