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GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
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   Posted 10/27/2009 4:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Guys ,
i am sure this subject was already discussed in length here , and i know many of the members here use Viagra Generic brand from ADC (al Day Chemist) and very happy with it .... i was wondering if there are any here that try to use or are using their brand of Cialis Generic (by ADC ) and the effects...

thanks again

GB

edited subject to correct the company name

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Steve n Dallas
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 4849
   Posted 10/27/2009 9:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Which of the two works best for you?
 
The Cialis from ADC will/should work the same as what you get in the USA...I do believe it's harder to get Cialis and that you have to specify that you travel alot and won't be taking it in the USA...(or something like that)
Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 206
   Posted 10/27/2009 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve n Dallas said...
Which of the two works best for you?


The Cialis from ADC will/should work the same as what you get in the USA...I do believe it's harder to get Cialis and that you have to specify that you travel alot and won't be taking it in the USA...(or something like that)


i find Viagra works best for me so far but i do have a load of cialis from ADC that i did not try yet
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Nerve Sparing open RP / Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence not an issue, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:
1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response. 3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 : 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.

UPDATE 1 YAER FOLLOW UP
ED: With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse , AND AT 80% without any medications !!
Fully continent since removal of catheter.
PSA one year : 0.0 as of 6/13/ 2008 BIG Wooohoooooooooo!!!!
 
UPDATE AS OF Dec 2008 (18 months out)
PSA  still Undetectble!!!!
No continance issues!!!!
ED Mostly  getting better  with oral meds and the right woman  = good  sex
80% without any help   and 95% with oral Meds ... 100% with  VED
hope to keep progressing and by 24 months get back to 100% potency  WooooHoo!!!
 


LenB
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 102
   Posted 10/27/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   

Hey guys:

 

I'm kind of new to the site so I don't know what ADC is. Please explain.  If it's generic, the compound should be the same as the brand drug.

Len


Age: 65
DX: 7/10/09
Gleason: 7
Biopsey: 2 chips with some cancer cells out of 30.
Robotic Surgery: 9/10/09
Cath out: 9/23/09
1st post op PSA: 10/20/09: <0.0
 
 


MrGimpy
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Total Posts : 504
   Posted 10/27/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Len,

Check out this and the many other posts referring to ordering




www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1050934
Stats:
Age: 52
PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on Jan 09, 2009
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Gleason Score = 3+3
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, under .0


CPA
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 10/28/2009 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Greetings, GB.  I have used ADC (all day chemist) two times.  The first time I ordered their version of Levitra.  The second time I ordered mostly their version of Levitra and a few of their version of Cialis.  I say their version because as I understand it they are not technically generics.  They are simply the version that is compounded in India.  When I ordered the second time I received an email from ADC saying that they are not able to ship their Cialis product to the USA for consumption in the USA.  I emailed them back and said I travel fairly frequently overseas (London in July, Johannesburg in Dec, etc.) and they emailed back and said they would ship. 
 
I had used both name brand Levitra and name brand Cialis from samples my doc gave me.  Both seemed to work at all strength levels.  I had thought that Cialis would last longer and thus I might want to go that route more than Levitra.  I have come to the conclusion that while both work, I prefer the ADC version of Levitra to everything I have taken.  By the way, I've never taken any form of Viagra.  My doc says it works differently than Levitra or Cialis and uses it only if the first two don't work. 
 
Trust this helps.  Let me know if I can help further. David
 
 
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical at age 55
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 pos; 2 marginal
Gleason 3+3; upgraded to 4+3 post surgery
RRP 4 Feb 08; both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated
Catheter out Feb 13 - pad free Feb 16
PSA every 90 days - ZERO's everytime!
Great wife and family who take very good care of me


Cajun Jeff
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Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 4119
   Posted 10/28/2009 6:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I wonder why the Dr. made that comment.

Jeff T
Cajun Country
Jeff T Age 57
9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable
 10th month  PSA <0.01
ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily, going to try MUSE next


GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 206
   Posted 10/28/2009 7:12 AM (GMT -6)   
corvetteman3 said...
I wonder why the Dr. made that comment.

Jeff T
Cajun Country


i think it maybe for the reason that Viagra is a bit stronger but lasts shorter and usually DrS recommend the longer lasting meds that have a longer effects in your system even if it is a weaker dose, mine also started me on samples of Cialis and Levitra for that reason.
thanks for the Info i just tried 1/2 a dose of the ADC Cialis (20mg split in half) seems to have some effect even just by sexual stimulation
(not even sex yet ) so i believe with sexual intercourse it should work even better.. but i will keep you inform i mostly use Viagra if i want a long lasting effect... sometime i even get a usable erection without any of it.


thanks again ...

GB smilewinkgrin
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Nerve Sparing open RP / Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence not an issue, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:
1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response. 3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 : 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.

UPDATE 1 YAER FOLLOW UP
ED: With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse , AND AT 80% without any medications !!
Fully continent since removal of catheter.
PSA one year : 0.0 as of 6/13/ 2008 BIG Wooohoooooooooo!!!!
 
UPDATE AS OF Dec 2008 (18 months out)
PSA  still Undetectble!!!!
No continance issues!!!!
ED Mostly  getting better  with oral meds and the right woman  = good  sex
80% without any help   and 95% with oral Meds ... 100% with  VED
hope to keep progressing and by 24 months get back to 100% potency  WooooHoo!!!
 


MrGimpy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 504
   Posted 10/28/2009 10:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine had me use Cialis initially at nights to help stimulate sensation via increased blood flow. I recall he said that Viagra was not the better option at that time because

1) Viagra was much more food dependent that the other 2
2) It wore off quicker and was not the overnight remedy I needed. Nocturnal erections were the goal
Stats:
Age: 52
PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on Jan 09, 2009
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Gleason Score = 3+3
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, under .0


hb2006
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 299
   Posted 10/30/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I was taking Viagra prior to my PCA surgery and found that you could not eat any greasy foods at all, or it wouldn't work. So no hamburgers, french fries, thick salad dressings, etc. Their web site now recommends what foods to avoid.
 
I never had it last more than 3 hours. The Levitra from ADC now works best for me.
Age 60, PSA 2007 4.1, PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008, Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative, Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared, Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th, pT2c, lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00, PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00, PSA June 29, 2009 0.00
ED Status- Currently using Trimix, Levitra daily for increased blood flow.
Noctural Erections have completely returned on a nightly basis, same hardness as before.

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