Using the Osbon Erecaid

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LittleIsMuch
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Date Joined Oct 2009
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   Posted 10/30/2009 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Can someone who has the Osbon Erecaid Esteem tell me how often it should be used. I had radical prostate suregery with no nerve sparing. Thanks.
Hisson


Steve n Dallas
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Date Joined Mar 2008
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   Posted 10/30/2009 10:24 AM (GMT -6)   

I used my pump for 30 minutes or so as often as I could...The general jest is to get blood flowing to your penis to help keep it healthy.

How long ago was your surgery?


Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


LittleIsMuch
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   Posted 10/30/2009 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Steve. My surgery was in 2003 and it seemed I was getting shorter and shorter.
Hisson


Jstars
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Date Joined Oct 2005
Total Posts : 489
   Posted 10/30/2009 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Yo MUCH

I had gotten on the Pump Wagon only about 3 weeks after surgery and I remember that it took a bit of work to get it to inflate even close to 'normal' even after only that short amount of time (in other words willey was already gettin lazy). Also it was a bit painful to try to get it full (just had to go slow, cycling, let out, pump up again). It might have taken 5 or 10 minutes of cycling the pump back then.

But rather quickly as time wore on it took less and less time. Now after 8 months (usually once a day pump -- sometimes more) I can 'get it up' in a minute or two. That is one of the virtues of the pump over any other method -- almost including au naturel -- it is darn quick! (plenty of drawbacks but better than nothing).

Also, it is nice to have the pump (or shots or muse or pills) around, when, after your partner has been 'helping' for an hour and nothing happens, instead of you (and her) getting depressed you can just say ... "OK, time for the Pump!" and off you go -- all cheerful.

Modern technology at its best!
Age 58, 195lbs, 6'4", 57 at DX, PSA Aug2008 7 4 ... June2007 4.7 (BPH + LUTS)
Biopsy Nov2008 1 of 12 cores 5%, Gleason 3+3 - Sona showed size 140+ cc (110 grams post op).
02/03/09 open RRP surgery , Nerve sparing both sides, 1 day in hospital, Day 4 first BM,
Pathology Report: All margins clear - No Invasive spread - no change in Gleason score.
02/18/09 Cath out, passed a 1cm oblong STONE within hours.
03/06/09 Started Levitra@20mg / Viagra@100mg / (04/01) Cialis@20mg -- no real effect (thru 10/2009).
04/01/09, 07/07/09, 10/01/09 PSA <0.1 - Stone Was Oxalate stone -- X-ray no stones.
08/09 - started MUSE@1000mcg ... pump&plump - success (alpro ache).
09/09 @500mcg +pump&plump + 2 advil - success - (less Alpro ache).
10/09 TrimixGel (500/300/100mcg): 1st:60%, 2nd:(pump&plump) 60%, 3rd(added 500mcg muse):70-80% -- (no Alpro aches!) but none @ useful hardness!


LittleIsMuch
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   Posted 10/30/2009 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Jim. Wish I had known about this site before I had the surgery. Just the word cancer
is frightening and my doctor (surgeon) told me nothing except the choices I had that he would do.
Hisson


Cajun Jeff
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Total Posts : 4119
   Posted 10/31/2009 6:27 AM (GMT -6)   
My Brothers in PC,

I do wish Doctors would tell patients about the site when we get DX. It has such info that I surely did not know before surgery. The amount of knowledge is just unbelievable. So many with all different walks in process all for the same goal.

Thanks to each and everyone of you. You have made and are making this journey so much better for me and many others.

Jeff T
Cajun Country
Jeff T Age 57
9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable
 10th month  PSA <0.01
ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily, going to try MUSE next


Sonny3
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Date Joined Aug 2009
Total Posts : 2448
   Posted 10/31/2009 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Jeff,

Very nicely said and I could not be more in agreement with you. One thing that is apparent and pretty much a common thread throughout the many discussions here, is like PCa, the drs seem to have no sense of commonality on how they deal with the patients.

Sadly, more often than not, you see guys writing in about how much they had to learn on their own and how much the drs just plain didn't tell them for whatever reason. Not doubt there are wonderful and very caring docs out there that go the extra mile with their discussion about all the ramifications of PCa and the treatment options.

I for one was a lucky one with my doc, there was not much left out of the discussions and there is a complete staff to handle and address just about everything. Wouldn't it be great if that were more the norm.

We talk all the time about how we need to gain more awareness to PCa. Without doubt the medical community need to become more aware about how much they are leaving out and how often they leave guys to fend for themselves in the education of all things PCa.

Just needed to add my 2 cents on this one. Having been on the better side of the equation, it is kinda frustrating to know that it exists and that not all men are receiving the same complete care.

Sonny
61 years old
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

da Vinci 9/17/09 Dr. Mani Menon Henry Ford Medical Institute

Post Surgery Pathology:
Gleason: Changed to (4+3) = 7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
ALL NERVES SPARED
Margins: focally positive right posterior mid level
Perineural Invasion: present
Seminal Invasion: absent
Venous Invasion: absent
Angiolymphatic Invasion: absent
Left Internal iliac lymph node: reveals zero
Right Internal lymph node: reveals zero


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 10/31/2009 8:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Sonny, as you know, my doctor(s) experience so far pretty well mirrors yours. Mine were well informed in all the common patient concerns about prostate surger, we discussed everything openly and bluntly including incontinence, ED, penile shrinkage, etc.

But in fairness to some of our brothers, some men just aren't use to or comfortable in medical situation. For some, it may be their first major medical crisis. Some men tend to be denialists concerning their health issues, where women are prone to be more concerned and open.

Even men have to accept the responsibility that the health of their body is their business, and they need to become knowledgable and pro-active in their own care and decisions.

The doctors I have personally worked with over the years, all love an informed patient. It makes their job easier, saves time, and only you know how you feel inside, so tell the doctor exactly that.

End of speech.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sessions/72 gys.


Sonny3
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Date Joined Aug 2009
Total Posts : 2448
   Posted 10/31/2009 9:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Nice Speech. Speaks volumes in 4 short paragraphs.

As men, patients, cancer victims and survivors, we have an absolute, non-deniable responsibility to actively and aggressively participate fully and openly in all aspects of our battle with PCa and living life.

Sonny
61 years old
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

da Vinci 9/17/09 Dr. Mani Menon Henry Ford Medical Institute

Post Surgery Pathology:
Gleason: Changed to (4+3) = 7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
ALL NERVES SPARED
Margins: focally positive right posterior mid level
Perineural Invasion: present
Seminal Invasion: absent
Venous Invasion: absent
Angiolymphatic Invasion: absent
Left Internal iliac lymph node: reveals zero
Right Internal lymph node: reveals zero


LittleIsMuch
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Date Joined Oct 2009
Total Posts : 13
   Posted 10/31/2009 7:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Some of you touched on a subject that most men have a problem with...talking to the doctor. Just remember he puts his pants on just like you....one leg at a time and most will talk very frankly with you. Don't hesitate to ask the doc whatever is on your mind....he is human just like we even though some seem to think differently. I talk openly with mine because that is what he is there for ...is to listen and then advise but he can't if we are not willing to put all the cards on the table. I had a good friend who was a medical doctor and we openly talked about anything and everything and most all of them will do that if you will just open up to them. That too is healing for us. They might be doctors but they are human just like we and they too have problems and some of theirs is just like ours. It's great that all of you tell of your experiences here as you have gone through what I and others have. There is one thing I haven't seeen mentioned though....about incontinence. Something that helped me to overcome this was the kegel exercises and do them regularly.
Hisson

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