Easier post op BM funny but true

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Mbshine
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   Posted 10/31/2009 9:07 AM (GMT -6)   
 
   Post op plus 10 days and first difficult BM arrived on day 4....2-3 stool softeners a day and each small BM daily was a struggle but successful and not too much pain. the gravity to do its thing, I reached  down to fix my socks,
 
Then a Eureka moment!
 
as i raied my right foot a few inches of the ground mr fecal began to slide more easily.....still with some post op pain i slowly grabbed the right angle and lifted it a bit more.....good results....late last night and early today I gried it again...almost but not quite crossing your legs sort of....spread eagle on the throne, and using your hands to help lift your right foot almost onto your left kneww....some physiologist or colo rectal  specialist on the blog can tell us why, but it sort of naturally opened the sphincter, started the movement of the
BM   and decreased the time of the whole process...the feeling was one of relief and now I think I have devised an easy way to reduce or completely eliminate the stool softeners...
 
our moderator asked for whacko experiences that mighthelp the other guys....so it is all just fyi
 
Mbshine
 
 
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AGE 62  ANGEL FIRE, NM

DX 7/08 

EMAIL:  MScheinbaum@LF-Financial.com   pls put “Healing Well” in subject

psa HAD GONE FROM 1.7 TO 4.3 IN THREE YEARS...DIGITAL AND ULTRA SOUND EXAM SHOWED NO ENLARGEMENT.

BIOPSY SHOWED 2 OF 12 CORES POSITIVE.

TWO TUMORS SHOWED GLEASON 4+3 AND 3+4

NO INDICATION OF ESCAPE FROM CAPSULE OR METASTASIS

STARTED CONSULTATIONS AT SLOAN KETTERING 8/09

DR GUILLONNEAU SAID NO SURGERY UNLESS MASSIVE WEIGHT LOSS.

AT DX 333 LBS, SLEEP APNEA, AND HIGH BP

BARIATRIC SURGERY RECOMMENDED.

LAP BAND SURGERY IN EL PASO, TX 1/23/09

10/1/09  276 LBS, TRIGLYC AND CHOL NORMAL, NO SIGNS OF  SLEEP APNEA, ONE BP RX REMOVED AND OTHERS CUT DOSAGE IN HALF;

 

  STARTED QUARTERLY ZOLODEX BY TAOS,NM UROLOGIST, WHO TRAINED AT MSKCC, INJECTIONS AND CASODEX 50MG DAILY 9/08

 

DAVINCI  done 10/19/09  Dr. Bertrand Guillonneau

NYC Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center

Jackson pratt drain removed surgery plus 1 day.

Catheter out 9th day

One heavy duty pad first day without catheter.

 

PATH REPORT 10/29/09 MSKCC DR VICTOR REUTER

GLEASONS CAN NOT BE DETERMINED, HORMONES DRIED PROSTATE

NO SIGN OF ANY CANCER ESCAPING PROSTATE, OR AT MARGIN

NO SIGN OF ANY CANCER IN ONE LYMPH NODE REMOVED

 

PROGNOSIS EXCELLENT. PSA IN ONE MONTH

THEN SIX MONTHS

THEN ONCE A YEAR OR MORE

ONE VISIT PER YEAR FOR

Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 10/31/2009 9:11 AM (GMT -6)   
MBShine,that was a "crappy" but great post. Those way ahead of you know exactly what you are talking about in the BM matters, and you sound like you found a good trick to help. SUre it will be useful to those coming behind you. Good tip.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sessions/72 gys.


brainsurgeon
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 137
   Posted 10/31/2009 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Make sure there is no video any where close to your BR.
70 years old USA citizen
Prostatic carcinoma dxed June 2009 by PSA (7.0) and then Bx
PSAs yearly since 2001 ranged 1.52 to 7.0
Neg. CT and BS
4 of 8 biopsies positive (all right side) Gleason Score 3+4=7
Robotic assisted total prostatectomy and node excision July 2009 in Luzern, Switzerland by Dr. Mattei in the Kantonsspital
pT2c G3 pN0 (0/14)
Catheter out in 5 days (home in 3 days)
No incontinence
Potency: beginning tumescence??? at 3 weeks post-op. Still happens at 3 months PO
3month PSA less than 0.01


Sonny3
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Total Posts : 2448
   Posted 10/31/2009 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Mb,

In your efforts to ensure continued success with your new found methods, a word of caution....

Be sure to stop just short of attempting to get your right foot up and behind your right ear----this could bring on a whole other set of problems and issues....LOL

Good luck with your program of relief,

Sonny
61 years old
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
<5%, 90%, 40%
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
CT Organ Scan - negative
Nuclear Bone Scan - Negative

da Vinci 9/17/09 Dr. Mani Menon Henry Ford Medical Institute

Post Surgery Pathology:
Gleason: Changed to (4+3) = 7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
ALL NERVES SPARED
Margins: focally positive right posterior mid level
Perineural Invasion: present
Seminal Invasion: absent
Venous Invasion: absent
Angiolymphatic Invasion: absent
Left Internal iliac lymph node: reveals zero
Right Internal lymph node: reveals zero


James C.
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Total Posts : 4463
   Posted 10/31/2009 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
mb, you can move the gist of your new technique over to that thread..unique method, for sure.
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
24 mts: PSA's: .04 each test since surgery, Bimix .3ml PRN or Trimix .15ml PRN


Radical
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Total Posts : 739
   Posted 10/31/2009 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you tried Salts.........................."SummerSalts" that is !  lol ......................Kev
Age 51yrs
DX 11/11/08
6 out of 8 cores positive 3 X 60% / 3 X 10%
PSA 4
Gleason Score 3+4=7
Stage T1c
Robotic Surgery 24/12/08
Upgrade Gleason Score 4+3=7 Gleason Differential 60%/40%
Stage T2c
Three small foci total volume <10%
Neg Margins and Nodes
Nil - Extraprostatic Extentions
Dry less than 1 week.
ED- taking Meds- Its been 9 mnths now getting some action ! yah
PSA 1/09  .03
PSA 2/09  .03
PSA 5/09  .03
PSA 9/09  .03
"Everyday in Everyway I get better"


Worried Guy
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Total Posts : 3743
   Posted 10/31/2009 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Makes sense to me. I've been known to lift a leg to let some gas out. Thanks for the tip.
Jeff (Did I just hear a noise?)

lewvino
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 384
   Posted 10/31/2009 4:41 PM (GMT -6)   

Mbshine:
David stated "Sure it will be useful to those coming behind you" umm well I'm Not going to be coming anywhere behind you!!!!!!

Glad you found something that worked! I remember my first BM was pretty painful after surgery.

Larry


Age 55 / age at diagnosis 54, PSA 5.1
Biopsy 04/08/09 12 cores, 5 positive
Gleason 3 Cores at 4+3=7, 2 Cores at 3+4=7
Perineural Invasion Noted on biopsy

Robotic surgery 08/12/09 at Vanderbilt, Nashville TN. 
 
Post Surgery - Dr. Spared 100% of Nerves on the left side.
Estimated that 50 - 70% of the nerves were spared on the right side.
 
Final Path report
20% of the prostate Invovled
Tumor graded at T2C
Overall Gleason 3+4 (7)
Lymph Glands Clear
Positive Margin Noted in Right Apex
 
First post Surgery PSA - 0


BillyMac
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 1858
   Posted 10/31/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
You fellas slay me! tongue

Radical
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Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 739
   Posted 10/31/2009 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Bill, how ya goin, long time no hear..................rgds Kev
Age 51yrs
DX 11/11/08
6 out of 8 cores positive 3 X 60% / 3 X 10%
PSA 4
Gleason Score 3+4=7
Stage T1c
Robotic Surgery 24/12/08
Upgrade Gleason Score 4+3=7 Gleason Differential 60%/40%
Stage T2c
Three small foci total volume <10%
Neg Margins and Nodes
Nil - Extraprostatic Extentions
Dry less than 1 week.
ED- taking Meds- Its been 9 mnths now getting some action ! yah
PSA 1/09  .03
PSA 2/09  .03
PSA 5/09  .03
PSA 9/09  .03
"Everyday in Everyway I get better"


BillyMac
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 1858
   Posted 10/31/2009 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Kev. I haven't posted on the forum for quite a while and it is great to see all the usual suspects are still here. I am well and it is good to read you are the same. Sure am pleased to see spring here again though.........I don't know about this global warming theory ----I found this past winter really cold
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07
4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
PSA August 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
Post-op pathology rechecked by new lab:
Gleason downgraded to 4+3=7
Focal extension comprised of grade 3 cells
PSA September 08 <0.01 (new lab)
PSA February 09 <0.01
PSA August 09 (2 year mark), <0.01

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