Life is absurd. PCa is absurd.

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cocrgolfer
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   Posted 11/11/2009 6:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Life is absurd. Pca is absurd. (Not the existential meaning, but ludicrous, ridiculous because of being irrational, incongruous, or illogical.) How is that?

1. It starts with a complete stranger sticking his finger waaay up where the sun don’t shine. This will happen on numerous occasions. It seemed like everyone I met wanted to do that.

2. That’s not the end. Other strange mechanical biopsy things get up there too.

3. You get a report with all kinds of strange terms and numbers. You frantically spend a week on the web having to learn in a week what a PhD in pathology learns in four years.

4. You have to make an impossible choice. Torch the darn thing or just kick it off the team completely.

5. You are required to put complete faith and trust with your life in a whole bunch of total strangers who may or may not have just had a knock-down drag-out with their significant other, been recently partying down, or just lost all their retirement money in the stock market.

6. If you elect the robot surgery, you find yourself in an extremely strange room, practically up-side down, with your body pumped full of gas, and cold steel arms rooting around in your innards, while being manipulated by a guy across the room sitting at a video game consol.

7. Afterwards, you find out, horror or horrors, that there IS something that can actually make Willy an inch or so shorter. (In my case, an inch that can ill afford to be lost.)

8. You will find yourself in conversations, possibly with someone you don‘t know, smiling serenely, while taking a massive piss in your pants.

9. You go to the supermarket and a hot little checkout mama slyly smiles at you. Whereupon you pass her a big package of male incontinence pads.

10. Willy goes on forced retirement. After so many years of enjoying his company, you don’t know if he’s going to ever get back on the job. You prod him with drugs, pumps, and injections.

11. With some new information you try to contact someone on your surgical "team" with a pressing question. Later you decide it would be easier to get the current locations of the surveillance drones on the Afgan-Pakistan border from the Pentagon.

I’m sure there are lots of others. Truly life is absurd.

Steve

Purgatory
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   Posted 11/11/2009 6:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve, you just accurately broke down the highlights of living in a world of prostate cancer.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sess/72 gys cath #8 33 days, 11/2- SP Cath #9 in place


Modelshipwright
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   Posted 11/11/2009 7:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Yup Steve,

That pretty much covers it.

Keep well,
Regards,
Bill

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 11/11/2009 7:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Sumttin to ponder:
 
Would it be Plagiarism if I passed the story on as my own since it was written by Steve?
 
But yeppers - modisty goes right out the dorr early on.
Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


Zen9
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   Posted 11/11/2009 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
cocrgolfer,
 
You say, "Life is absurd. Pca is absurd. (Not the existential meaning ...)."
 
But I suspect that Camus, Sartre et al. would read differently now after PC than they did before.
 
And I always thought that you had to be on the losing side of a war in order to really understand existentialism! 
 
Zen9

MrGimpy
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   Posted 11/11/2009 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve,

Nicely done, and with a change in a few of the words one could use the same 10 for going through a Divorce, see below

1. It starts with a complete stranger sticking his finger waaay up where the sun don’t shine. This would be your attorney

2. That’s not the end. Other strange things get up there too, this would be her attorney.

3. You get a report with all kinds of strange terms and numbers. You frantically spend a week on the web having to learn in a week what an attorney learns in four years.

4. You have to make an impossible choice. Torch the darn thing or just kick it off the team completely. This would be your 401ks and IRA's

5. You are required to put complete faith and trust with your life in a whole bunch of total strangers who may or may not have just had a knock-down drag-out with their significant other, been recently partying down, or just lost all their retirement money in the stock market. Judges and Attorneys

6. You find yourself in an extremely strange room, practically up-side down, with your body pumped full of gas, and cold steel arms rooting around in your innards, while being manipulated by a guy across the room sitting at a video game console. Welcome to a Courtroom

7. Afterwards, you find out, horror or horrors, that there IS something that can actually make Willy an inch or so shorter. (In my case, an inch that can ill afford to be lost.) Yes you burned through your attorneys retainer already

8. You will find yourself in conversations, possibly with someone you don‘t know, smiling serenely, while taking a massive piss in your pants. Ah the Mediator

9. You go to the supermarket and a hot little checkout mama slyly smiles at you. Whereupon you pass her a big package of male incontinence pads. And have no money left to pay for them

10. Willy goes on forced retirement. After so many years of enjoying his company, you don’t know if he’s going to ever get back on the job. You prod him with drugs, pumps, and injections. But with no money to date, he is retired
Stats:
Age: 52
PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on Jan 09, 2009
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Gleason Score = 3+3
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, under .0


LenB
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   Posted 11/11/2009 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve,

You nailed it.

Len
Age: 65
DX: 7/10/09
Gleason: 7
Biopsey: 2 chips with some cancer cells out of 30.
Robotic Surgery: 9/10/09
Cath out: 9/23/09
1st post op PSA: 10/20/09: <0.0
 
 


cocrgolfer
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   Posted 11/11/2009 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Mr. Gimpy,
Thanks. You had Ingrid and me rolling on the floor (unfortunately, just in laughter._

Steve

James C.
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   Posted 11/11/2009 10:06 AM (GMT -6)   
cocrgolfer, you need to copy this very accurate list into the Things I didn't know thread, so the future guys can learn from it... smilewinkgrin

cocrgolfer
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   Posted 11/11/2009 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
James,

The deed is done. You don't think it might scare a newbie into going to Scientology or something like that? (Oooo, can I say that?)

Steve

geezer99
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   Posted 11/11/2009 2:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Suppose that we started each point with
"You know that you are still alive when"

Hey, if the doc wants to get the sun off his fingers for a while, what the heck -- just so long as it isn't part of a post-mortem.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day


goodlife
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   Posted 11/11/2009 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Too funny ! Why is it I'm crying instead of laughing ?
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injections

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