worldwide prostate cancer deaths 180,000....smoking related deaths 5.000,

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   Posted 12/10/2009 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Recent health headlines shouted that over five million people a year die from smoking related disease.  From reading here, we know that prostate cancer deaths in the US are about 30,000 a year and worldwide somewhat less than 180,000.  We know that death from prostate cancer in the US is declining due to better diagnosis, while the world wide figure continues to rise slightly.  Knowing these figures is no comfort to the famlies of the individuals who die from these conditions.
I was trying to find some kind of message in this announcement   We do know a few things, one is that death from diagnosed prostate cancer is going down in the US.  Another thing we know is that smoking related deaths are still out of control worldwide.  It makes me wonder.  Many years ago (almost 50 years ago) my father died prematurely from smoking related illness.  He didn't know that cigarettes were killing him. When he found out, he warned his sons.  I have now lived longer than my father did and with better health because I heeded his warning.
What really surprises me is that so many people in the USA still do not get it.  Smoking cigarettes will kill you before your time.  I find that reading this website we are given suggestions about having a healthier prostate, but nothing has been proven that will help us avoid or even postpone our cancer.  Cigarette smokers here and worldwide on the other hand have been given  conclusive information about how to avoid premature death.  For some reason many have decided to reject it and continue their destructive lifestyle.
Just some observations on a rainy cold day with nothing better to do.
PSA up to 4.7 July 2006 , nodule noted during DRE
Biopsy 10/16/06 ,stageT2A
Very Aggressive Gleason 4+4=8  right side
DaVinci Surgery  January 2007
Post op confirms gleason 4+4=8 with no extension or invasion
no long term continence problems
Post surgery PSA continues to be "undetectable"
One side nerves spared
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   Posted 12/10/2009 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   

good posting. when i have talked to my GP, Uro, Surgeons, and the Radiation Oncologists about dietary changes, supplement usage, etc, they all agreed on one topic, that the number one health change that a person can do that will directly impact the rest of their life is to quit smoking. They agreed also, that there was no point worrying about dietary changes if a person were to continue to smoke.

In my immediate family, I lost my father, my mother in law, and my father in law, all to smoking related disease. My mother is still with me, at 82, but she has COPD really bad, and continues to smoke regardless of her doctors.

After I got my PC dx last year and it really sunk in hard, I made my own decision. I quit a pack and a half a day habit cold turkey literally the night before my open surgery. Figured it would be an easy way to quit with the recovery of a major operation in play. And it worked, I haven't had even a single drag on a smoke since. Does that make me better than anyone else, of course not. I just knew I had enough on my plate without adding smoking related complications to the mix.

My wife and both sons still smoke, my wife has tried to quit several times since I did ,but so far, no sucess. My boys, they know better, but when you are their age, you think you are immortal, just like I did back then.

I don't view smoking as a judgemental type of thing, its just a bad, expensive, and smelly habit. Nicotine is among the most habit forming drugs in existence, so quitting is not always easy.

Each man must make his own decision there too, but I would love to know that all our brothers here were non-smokers, we all might last a bit longer.

You brought up a good subject, thanks.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 in 35 days, 12/7/9 - Cath #10 in place

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Date Joined Dec 2008
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   Posted 12/10/2009 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Smoking is probably the leading cause of many health problems for many people. It is a horrible habit. I still light up once or twice a day and am trying to get rid of that last remaining addiction.

Your message is there and it is very clear.

-Nov/Dec 07, March 08 and Dec 08: Severe perineum pain . Septra/Bactrim for 8 months for diagnosed prostatitis.
-PSA start of 2008: 5.3..... PSA June of 2008: 7.3
-14 DRE all benign or nothing felt
-TRUS Biopsy Nov 08: 5 of 8 cores positive GS 3+3 or 6. 30-65%. Perineural invasion.
-General Health: pretty good, 5' 10", 180 lbs, slim.
-Open RP surgery: May 09 both nerve bundles spared. Bilateral lymph node dissection performed. Discharged 48 hours after surgery.
-Post Surgery Pathology: pT3a N0 MX, extraprostatic extension (EPE), stage III prostate cancer, lymph nodes clear, seminal vesicles clear, Gleason upraded to 3+4 GS 7. EPE within surgical margins. Other than prostate and EPE, all tissue removed negative for cancer involvement.

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Date Joined Jun 2009
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   Posted 12/10/2009 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
An interesting study was reported at the PCRI conference that I attended in September of this year. It showed that people who smoked and exercised were in better health and able to combat diseases much better than people who didn't smoke, yet led a sedentary lifestyle which led to being overweight. I believe it was a Swedish study, but I'm sorry that I have no link to provide for it.
Age: 53 6' 0" Weight: 170 Caucasian

Rising PSA over the last six years (from when I started being tested) from 3.9 to 5.2 to 4.6 to 4.5.

DX with PC in January 2009 after biopsy. Bone scan--negative

Consulted Cedars-Sinai Beverly Hills urologist--recommended surgery
Consulted Cedars-Sinai Beverly Hills radiologist--recommended IMRT
Consulted San Diego Cyber-Blade doctor--recommended treatments
Consulted Long Beach radiologist--recommended IGRT
Consulted Loma Linda radiologist--recommended Hypo-fractionated Proton treatments

Insurance approved any treatment I wanted.

Consulted Marnia del Rey urologist Dr. Scholz.
Dr. Scholz referred me to Dr. Bahn for a Color Doppler test.
Scholz and Bahn recommended Active Surveillance, some diet changes, and steady exercise.

I am currently on Active Surveillance.

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   Posted 12/11/2009 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I wouldn't be surprised to find that plenty of exercise was even more healthy than not smoking. If we quit smoking, why not also exercise more and eat less? Any one is good, but if you are on a health kick, why not go for the triple bonus?
Age 63 at diagnosis, now 64.
No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores.
Non-nerve sparing RRP on 7 March 2008.
Two nights in hospital; catheter out after 7 days.
Continent; no pads needed from the get-go.
Pathology showed organ confined and negative margins. Gleason downgraded to 4+4=8.
6-week : <0.05
7-month: <0.05
13-month: 0.07 (start of a trend?)
19-month: 0.09 (maybe)
After a learning curve, Bimix injections (0.2ml) worked well. From 14 months, occasional nocturnal erections. Have "graduated" to just the pump.

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