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Tony Crispino
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 12/13/2009 4:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Terry Herbert posted on the PPML today a poem by Donna Pogliano, the lesser known auther of the book "A Primer on Prostate Cancer", known to only be written by Strum in some quarters. Here it is:

Doctors, doctors, doctors...

Who to choose-
Oh who to choose?
Roll the dice,
Win or lose.

To treat quick and dirty,
It's seeding with Critz.
To image the prostate,
See Kurhaniewicz.

If color's your thing,
See Fred Lee or Duke Bahn,
But see Catalona
Your prostate is gone!

Brachytherapy options
Also come in high dose,
So go off to Tulsa
Although it's not close.

Or see Grimm and Blasko,
The best in the West.
In God's Waiting Room,
It's Dattoli who's best.

If ice balls sound good,
Gary Onik is nifty.
Freeze out that tumor,
Be you eighty or fifty.

For proton beam
Choose Loma Linda,
They'll make sure your prostate
Is fried to a cinder.

Regardless of choice
Don't ignore Watchful Waiting,
It's diet and lifestyle
And anticipating.

Before doing anything,
Learn all you can,
And cancer will be
Just a flash in the pan.



Donna explained how this work came about:

It was midnight in Milwaukee
On a crisp cold Christmas eve.
While waiting up for Santa,
Thought I'd see what I'd conceive,

To make my worldwide family,
Laugh, smile, giggle or guffaw.
So Merry Christmas loved ones,
Happy New Year to all.

Be it Haiku, dirty limerick,
Narrative or blank verse,
I sometimes sit and wonder,
If writing is a curse!


Again thanks to Terry, the Sitemaster of www.yananow.net for this post today...

Tony
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Worried Guy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 3741
   Posted 12/13/2009 7:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I came here all confused and dreary,
The path report made me teary,
One sad night a lifetime ago.
But several guys jumped right on me,
They understood and made me see,
HealingWell is quid pro quo!

Thanks for being there guys. Now it's my turn to return the favor.
Jeff
(I see I turned "Veteran" today.)
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
. 9/27 2 months: Still 3 pads per day.
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day Experimenting with Nyquil.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04 undetectable.


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 12/13/2009 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Great poem, Tony, and way to go Jeff, you been a great contributor here
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 in 35 days, 12/7/9 - Cath #10 in place


geezer99
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Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 990
   Posted 12/13/2009 8:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Jeff
The post that seems to have pushed you over the top was the one about killing squirrels. Thus we determine

Murdering small mammals = GHFPH
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 12/13/2009 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Good one Geezer, lol, I thought about the squirrel one too when that was posted.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 in 35 days, 12/7/9 - Cath #10 in place


Worried Guy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 3741
   Posted 12/14/2009 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   
The squirrels got their revenge, again.
Off topic I know but explanation is in order. There are many do-gooder folks in the neighboring suburb who buy Havahart traps so they can solve their squirrel problem. They then drive over to the park across the street from me, upend their model 1077 traps, silently say, "Go free little one! Go forth and multiply!", and then drive home with a satisfied look on their faces. The overpopulation caused all sorts of problems for the people on my road: chewed car wiring, elimination of song birds, chewed tractor tires, destruction of bird feeders, damaged roof tiles.
Last year 3 of the "older guys" on the road had enough, and started taking care of business. The coyote and Turkey vultures are very happy and we had song birds this summer again.
And Geezer, it certainly was Good for Men's Prostate health GFMPH. That's how I justified getting the Leupold VX-II scope. :-)
Jeff

zufus
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 3149
   Posted 12/14/2009 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Good poem and shows the scenarios of choices...that is the full message in the poem I would gather. Hey talked to Donna P. not to long ago and she has about nothing to do with serving PCa now and is going into more of gardening-healthfood related gig or such from what I remember her talking about.

(History background) She tried to assist others on WebMd at one time and they shot her down as the messenger...after I talked to her to get her on that forum. I was sadden by that, as she could have been helpful to alot of PCa newbies....she was shot down for her open honesty on surgery and it was not flavored or angry in tone or anything...but being that the majority of patients got surgery and the board forum was heavily pro surgery(which hey thats ok but there are others and other choices to atleast look at)...they slammed her in round #1 and she left the group. Being co-author on the book and knowing Dr. Strum and friends, she is not under-educated on PCa and a totally compassionate soul if you knew her at all. I met some wonderful people over the years because of being in this fight.
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