Dribblestop penile clamp

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cocrgolfer
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   Posted 12/16/2009 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I was just reviewing an old thread and came across someone who was using a Dribblestop clamp. The website says it allows blood circulation and can be worn for 24 hrs. Theoretically a clamp should have some benefit because the more the bladder fills, the more the pressure receptors in the detrusor muscle signal the sphincters to tighten.


Has anybody tried one of these, do they work, can they really be worn for hours at a time?



Thanks for any info.



Steve

goodlife
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   Posted 12/16/2009 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I used one for the first month after catheter out. Made by Bard. It was really ok for about 6 to 8 hours, then I wanted it off.

Nearly 100 % effective tho. I do a lot of electrical work in industrial panels. I just hate to be dripping around that 480 volts.

I used it until I was down to 1 or 2 pads a day. Doctors don't recommend them because they want you to learn to stop the dribble yourself.

But I kept kegaling, and when I had more control, I stopped. It really made my incontinence much more bearable out in the workplace.

Goodlife
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injections


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/16/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
goodlife: did it physically hurt to have it pinch off, how much pressure you think there was?
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA:
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 in place


goodlife
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   Posted 12/16/2009 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
No, they are padded, and curved. There is a little raised area that presses on the urethra. They are adjustable for big members or little members, and they can be bent a little to your comfort.

Like I said, by the end of the day, I was ready to take it off, but it was just uncomfortable, not painful. Certainly was better than a wet undercarriage.

Goodlife
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injections


Purgatory
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Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 12/16/2009 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
THanks, don't have a current need, but will file that for future reference. I am assuming it would work equally well for uncircumsied as well as circumsised men.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA:
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 in place


goodlife
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   Posted 12/16/2009 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Depends if you are excited or not ! Ha ha
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injections


Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/16/2009 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I tried the Cunningham clamp and made two of my own designs. Goodlife has seen them ( but thankfully not installed.)
They started to feel really uncomfortable for me in about one hour. My nozzle has lost a lot of length and the clamp can just barely fit on. I have to shake things out to get enough to squeeze. Another problem I had was when I hit the release , I squirted over everything. I did not have the length to be pointing downward. I could only release when I was standing outside. If you like I can sent you photos of the devices.
I used 1/2 rubber weather stripping as the cushion material for mine and it worked great.
Jeff
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
. 9/27 2 months: Still 3 pads per day.
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day Experimenting with Nyquil.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04 undetectable.


cocrgolfer
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Date Joined Oct 2009
Total Posts : 171
   Posted 12/16/2009 5:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Goodlife, thanks a lot for the info. I'm going to order one (thought about asking you to sell me your used one but nah nono )
Playing golf and jogging with the *%$3@ pull ups is really uncomfortable, so between trying to train my bladder to fill and signal the sphincters and then kegeling at other times, maybe both will be beneficial.



Could have a problem like Jeff's though. The vision of Jeff "unclamping" and the ensuing result sent Ingrid and me into gales of laughter. Thanks for sharing that!



Steve

Purgatory
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Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 12/16/2009 5:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Jeff, hope you meant photos of the your device uninstalled, lol.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA:
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 in place


tallguy
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Total Posts : 419
   Posted 12/20/2009 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been using the Cunningham clamp for several months and it has made all the difference in the work day. It saves the time and aggrevation of removing pads or depends and I stay dry. It can get a bit uncomfortable especially if the foam rubber material wears out. Seems to get uncomfortable when I am more active versus office work sitting.
I have reorded several times and buy two at a time...to rotate them each day. washing seems to wear them out faster.
I noticed the post about Dribblestop and looked at it on the web site. Have not tried it yet. The idea of rubber that does not let water penetrate sounds good because of the washing/wear out factor mentioned.
I also noticed ont he Dribblestop photo that it was positioned near the end of the penis. I have been putting my Cunningham nearer the base/body. I am wondering if that tends to cause more pain. I just now put it neared the end and it does seem to feel better.
I may not be using much longer if I proceed to have a sling installed end of January. As noted in posts in other threads, I am debating which sling to install or to go straight to AUS pump. Don't want to keep using the clamp forever but it certainly beats being wet and changing all the time. I would recomment trying both the Cunningham and the Dribblestop and see which works best for you.
64  year old male in excellent physical condition.
No serious illness of any kind.
PSA jumped from 3 to 8 in one year between annual physicals.
Biopsy/pathology confirmed postate cancer.
pt2b NO Mx with a Gleason score 3+3=6.
DaVinci prostatectomy, Robotic surgery July 23, 2008.
Tumor type: Acinar
size 5.5 cm x 5.7 cm weight: 77 gm.
Largest tumor nodule: 1.3 cm
All surgical margins were negative.
Seminal vesicles uninvolved by tumor.
Urinary incontinence incurred immediately followin surgery. Dry at nights but no control during day. Tried drugs imipremine and detrol but no help and caused side effects so stopped them.
Unable to obtail erection from beginning. Viagra and Cialis were used in low dose but caused headache so discontinued. Using pump for erection effectively with rubber clamp.Very loving relationship with wife and we are both fine with this situation as it is.
Underwent physical therapy and kegal exercises with no results for incontinence.
Uideo fluoroscopic urodynamics and cystourethroscopy testing in Oct. 2009. Resulted in recommendation for surgery to insert InVance Male Sling System for incontinence cure. Alternative is new sling called Virtue by Coloplast. Planning this surgery for January 2010.


tallguy
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Date Joined Oct 2009
Total Posts : 419
   Posted 12/20/2009 12:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been using the Cunningham clamp for several months and it has made all the difference in the work day. It saves the time and aggrevation of removing pads or depends and I stay dry. It can get a bit uncomfortable especially if the foam rubber material wears out. Seems to get uncomfortable when I am more active versus office work sitting.
I have reorded several times and buy two at a time...to rotate them each day. washing seems to wear them out faster.
I noticed the post about Dribblestop and looked at it on the web site. Have not tried it yet. The idea of rubber that does not let water penetrate sounds good because of the washing/wear out factor mentioned.
I also noticed ont he Dribblestop photo that it was positioned near the end of the penis. I have been putting my Cunningham nearer the base/body. I am wondering if that tends to cause more pain. I just now put it neared the end and it does seem to feel better.
I may not be using much longer if I proceed to have a sling installed end of January. As noted in posts in other threads, I am debating which sling to install or to go straight to AUS pump. Don't want to keep using the clamp forever but it certainly beats being wet and changing all the time. I would recomment trying both the Cunningham and the Dribblestop and see which works best for you.
64  year old male in excellent physical condition.
No serious illness of any kind.
PSA jumped from 3 to 8 in one year between annual physicals.
Biopsy/pathology confirmed postate cancer.
pt2b NO Mx with a Gleason score 3+3=6.
DaVinci prostatectomy, Robotic surgery July 23, 2008.
Tumor type: Acinar
size 5.5 cm x 5.7 cm weight: 77 gm.
Largest tumor nodule: 1.3 cm
All surgical margins were negative.
Seminal vesicles uninvolved by tumor.
Urinary incontinence incurred immediately followin surgery. Dry at nights but no control during day. Tried drugs imipremine and detrol but no help and caused side effects so stopped them.
Unable to obtail erection from beginning. Viagra and Cialis were used in low dose but caused headache so discontinued. Using pump for erection effectively with rubber clamp.Very loving relationship with wife and we are both fine with this situation as it is.
Underwent physical therapy and kegal exercises with no results for incontinence.
Uideo fluoroscopic urodynamics and cystourethroscopy testing in Oct. 2009. Resulted in recommendation for surgery to insert InVance Male Sling System for incontinence cure. Alternative is new sling called Virtue by Coloplast. Planning this surgery for January 2010.


cocrgolfer
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Date Joined Oct 2009
Total Posts : 171
   Posted 12/21/2009 6:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Tallguy,

Thanks for the feedback. I ordered the Dribblestop (what a name!) but it's not here yet. Maybe I'm starting to make some incontinence progress. We went to see Avatar last night and I made it to the bathroom twice with most of my volume intact. Usually at night I lose whatever small control I have during the day, so that's some encouragement.

Best of luck in Jan. with the sling installation.

Steve

Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/21/2009 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I tend to wear my jeans a little tighter for two reasons. 1)I'm cheap and will not concede to the need to buy a larger size, and 2) I like the support for my boys. Wearing the clamp with tight jeans is a disaster.
I'm guessing the Cunningham clamp was responsible for some 65 year old clothing designer inventing pleated pants.

Is that a Ruger LCP in your pocket, or are you happy to see me? Nah, It's my 3/4 inch Dribblestop®,... and I haven't been happy to see anyone in a loong time.
Jeff
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next?
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
. 9/27 2 months: Still 3 pads per day.
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day Experimenting with Nyquil for 10 days: Can sleep through the night but withdrawal is bad. Stopped 12/20.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04 undetectable.


SPACER
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   Posted 5/23/2010 8:23 PM (GMT -6)   
After reading these post about clamps I decided to try one.
Mine is a home made prototype & similar to the dribblestop.
So far so good; I only use it for short periods when I go out.
It does not help the incontinence but I do stay drier longer.
Thanks for all the info here.

SP
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