H1N1 + PCa = the dry question

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Sleepless09
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   Posted 12/19/2009 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello all.  I've been in bed all week sick as the proverbial dog.  My doctor tells me this morning he's it's N1H1 and I've had my first Tamiflu.   I had the shot in mid-November.  Didn't totally protect me, obviously, but they say that if you get N1H1 after getting a shot it will be much milder.  Thank Heavens for that.  I've not had the energy for several days to even go downstairs.  A trip to the bathroom leaves me exhausted.  It has, however, trimmed six pounds off my frame.  And, when you don't feel like eating, it's an easy diet.   
 
Now for the PCa connection.  Along with N1H1 comes this cough.  It is the ultimate answer to the question: Am I dry?  If you have donated your prostate to some poor struggling pathologist in need of work, and you want to know how dry you really are six months later, just go get yourself an H1N1 cough.  Only the strongest, best trained, sphincters can withstand the onslaught of the H1N1 cough. 
 
Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time for me to zonk out again.
 
Sheldon  AKA  Sleepless   
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9, so far, so good
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
First post op PSA Sept 09  less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23 test again less than 0.02
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues, but better every week. 
Feel free to email me at:  sheldonprostate@yahoo.com    


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/19/2009 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Sheldon,

So sorry you are so sick. Wondered where you had been lately. Best thing you can do is what you are doing, rest in bed as much as possible, and let the flu run its course. Hopefully you will be on the mend soon.

Boy, I wouldn't want to be doing a lot of coughing right now, pretty paranoid about getting sick with a cold or flu, have had the shots.

Good luck to you, and get well soon.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA:
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 in place


goodlife
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   Posted 12/19/2009 3:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Sheldon,

Sorry to hear you have been consorting with the pigs ( ok, it's just their virus.)

It is kind of weird how we suddenly go, "hey, haven't heard from Sheldon in a while"

Glad to hear you are on the mend, and don't forget, pucker first, then cough.

Merry Christmas to you and yours !

Goodlife
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injections


Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/19/2009 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I found that unless I am covered, a good nose blow will decorate anything within 3 feet of my midsection. I guess I fail the continence test.
You have no choice but to just relax and let nature take its course.
Feel better
Jeff
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
. 9/27 2 months: Still 3 pads per day.
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day Experimenting with Nyquil.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04 undetectable.


mikey1955
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   Posted 12/19/2009 9:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Sheesh Sheldon. H1N1 this soon after an RP? I also did hear that the shot should reduce severity if you contract H1N1. I wish you all the best and may your sphincter be extra strong when you cough.

All the best for a quick recovery!

Mike
-Nov/Dec 07, March 08 and Dec 08: Severe perineum pain . Septra/Bactrim for 8 months for diagnosed prostatitis.
-PSA start of 2008: 5.3..... PSA June of 2008: 7.3
-14 DRE all benign or nothing felt
-TRUS Biopsy Nov 08: 5 of 8 cores positive GS 3+3 or 6. 30-65%. Perineural invasion.
-General Health: pretty good, 5' 10", 180 lbs, slim.
-Open RP surgery: May 09 both nerve bundles spared. Bilateral lymph node dissection performed. Discharged 48 hours after surgery.
-Post Surgery Pathology: pT3a N0 MX, extraprostatic extension (EPE), stage III prostate cancer, lymph nodes clear, seminal vesicles clear, Gleason upraded to 3+4 GS 7. EPE within surgical margins. Other than prostate and EPE, all tissue removed negative for cancer involvement.


mvesr
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Total Posts : 823
   Posted 12/19/2009 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sheldon

Sorry you are not feeling so hot. Hope you can shake it soon.

Mika
age at dx 54 now 57
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
ED is getting better
the shots work great, still can't give them to myself
two years of zero's


Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 12/20/2009 12:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Sheldon, Hope you feel better soon.

Jeff T
Jeff T Age 57

9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable

10th month PSA <0.01
1year psa <0.01
ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily, going to try MUSE next. Next step injections.


zachattack
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Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 97
   Posted 12/20/2009 11:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Sheldon,maybe this will make you feel a bit better.Your cough will go away after the flu.I have copd,emphysema,and end stage lung disease.my spinchter is fighting a losing battle.You don't want to be near or in front of me when a coughing spell rears its ugly head.Take care and get well.

Zach
age 55dx 12-2008,psa at biopsy 8.6
biopsy 12/12 gleason 3+4=7
da vinci surgery 6-09 nerve sparing by DR. John W. Scott (my hero)
Hospital 3 days cath 7days still leaking from cough(bad lungs)
still have ed may be the hormones.
9-09 psa 2.2 hormone inj
10-09 nuclear bone scan no results yet I will have gold markers placed 12-29-09
start rad 1-10-10
organ confined
extracapsular seminal vesicle involvement
lymph node involvement


geezer99
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   Posted 12/20/2009 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I went through about a week and a half of flu in November in spite of flu shots. Oddly, my incontinence is urge, not stress related so coughing is not a problem. I was just out shoveling snow, lifting is no problem but the transition from cold to warm had me racing my pad to the bathroom. Everyone is a little bit different.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day


Jstars
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Date Joined Oct 2005
Total Posts : 489
   Posted 12/22/2009 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Yo Sheldon!

We can tell that you are still slightly delirious as you were writing since your went from H1N1 -> N1H1 and more N1H1 finally back to H1N1 .....

Good that you are back to the real stuff ... dunno if Tamiflu would have worked on N1H1 !!

So far so good here ... no one has got flu!

jim
Age 58, 195lbs, 6'4", 57 at DX, PSA Aug2008 7 4 ... June2007 4.7 (BPH + LUTS)
Biopsy Nov2008 1 of 12 cores 5%, Gleason 3+3 - Sona showed size 140+ cc (110 grams post op).
02/03/09 open RRP surgery , Nerve sparing both sides, 1 day in hospital, Day 4 first BM,
Pathology Report: All margins clear - No Invasive spread - no change in Gleason score.
02/18/09 Cath out, passed a 1cm oblong STONE within hours.
03/06/09 Started Levitra@20mg / Viagra@100mg / (04/01) Cialis@20mg -- no real effect (thru 11/2009).
04/01/09, 07/07/09, 10/01/09 PSA <0.1 - Stone Was Oxalate stone -- X-ray no stones.
08/09 - started MUSE@1000mcg ... pump&plump - success(80-90%) (alpro ache).
09/09 @500mcg +pump&plump + 2 advil - success(80-90%) - (less Alpro ache).
10/09 TrimixGel (500/300/100mcg): 1st:60%, 2nd:(pump&plump) 60%, 3rd(added 500mcg muse):70-80% -- (no Alpro aches!) but none @ useful hardness!


Dink J.
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Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 6
   Posted 12/22/2009 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Quick note:
My G.P. told me this one yesterday: "What's the difference between bird flu and swine flu?"
Answer: "If you have bird flu, the doctor can cure you with a tweetment, but if you have swine flu, he can cure it with just an oinkment."

Also, I wrote a note on another PCa board recently, referring in my comment to "prostate-specific morality" (I MEANT "prostate specific mortality"). As for "prostate specific MORALITY," if one has PCa surgery, that might no longer be a Tiger-Woods-size challenge (grin---a grim grin).

Real note: I had some medium-range incontinence problems coming out of RPP at Hopkins in April 2008. S-l-0-W-L-Y that got better. Then in Sept 2009 I had a second surgery (to replace some plumbing parts the surgeon had erased the first time), and then I had incontinence again. But, again, things have gotten progressively better. I'm pretty dry totally now. And it took me almost two years to get there, but I think there is HOPE for most men still having incontinence problems after prostate treatment.

Dink J.
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Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 6
   Posted 12/22/2009 2:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Quick note:
My G.P. told me this one yesterday: "What's the difference between bird flu and swine flu?"
Answer: "If you have bird flu, the doctor can cure you with a tweetment, but if you have swine flu, he can cure it with just an oinkment."

Also, I wrote a note on another PCa board recently, referring in my comment to "prostate-specific morality" (I MEANT "prostate specific mortality"). As for "prostate specific MORALITY," if one has PCa surgery, that might no longer be a Tiger-Woods-size challenge (grin---a grim grin).

Real note: I had some medium-range incontinence problems coming out of RPP at Hopkins in April 2008. S-l-0-W-L-Y that got better. Then in Sept 2009 I had a second surgery (to replace some plumbing parts the surgeon had erased the first time), and then I had incontinence again. But, again, things have gotten progressively better. I'm pretty dry totally now. And it took me almost two years to get there, but I think there is HOPE for most men still having incontinence problems after prostate treatment.

Geebra
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Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 476
   Posted 12/22/2009 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Sheldon,

I hope you feel better.

Just like geezer, I was shoveling snow the other day. I am usually dry (though I would have an occasional squirt due to urgency), so I am not wearing a pad. Took me well over a year to get there. Lifting and throwing parts were fine, but when I tried to push the snow in front of me, with the shovel resting against my abs, I discovered that unless I prep myself, I'd have to change my pants very soon. Who knew?

Happy Holidays!
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