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erbob
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   Posted 1/25/2010 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi fellow PC folks. I'm new here but not one of the younger ones. 73 years old to be exact but in great health with the exception of PC. Had pretty consistent PSA's from 1996 until April 09, always in the 2's and 3's. Number jumped up to 6.1 in April of 09, 6.93 October of 09 and finally the last of December 09 hit 7.34. My primary Doc referred me to a local Urologist who performed the biopsy. At least I was totally "out" for the entire procedure so it was a "piece of cake" of course we still have yet to receive the bill for that procedure. Waited on pins and needles for almost a week for the results. Was informed that I do have PC with a Gleason score of 3+4=7. I guess it's not exactly the worst but far from the best. We have an appointment for a consultation with a Urology Surgeon up in Denver, CO this coming Wednesday 27th to discuss the daVinci Robot procedure. This may not even be an option for me with my age. I do know that I just want to get rid of this dang beast as soon as possible. Does anyone else here have any experiences with the surgical oncology folks in the Denver area?????
I'm going to have a bunch of questions for you guys who have already experienced the daVince procedure and I'll ask them in another post. I am already a cancer survivor of 28 years. Had a clear cell sarcoma removed back in the very early 80's and went the surgery, chemo & radiation route and it worked! All that stuff was performed at NIH/NCI as I was in a Clinical Trials for Sarcomas. I know this PC is totally different from what I experienced before. I'm really excited about finding such a super group of guys here in this very educational forum. Thanks in advance.
Bob in Southern Colorado.
Bob, down in Southern Colorado


Ricky2
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   Posted 1/25/2010 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome Bob,

i don't know anybody in CO to help you out on that front, but can tell you my experience as a 70 year old with da Vinci surgery. Even though they told me my age might make my recovery longer and more problematic, I didn't find it that way at all. Incontinence and ED are the big side effects. I am now dry as a bone, but no progress on the ED front. The skill of the surgeon is very important. Make sure the urologist that you select has done the procedure at least 200 times.

Good luck to you!

Ricky
Age 70

PSA 5/2008- 3.6, PSA 7/2009- 6.1, retested 9/2009-5.1.
Biopsy 9/2009. 4 of 12 positive. Gleason 3+4=7
CT and bone scan negative.
Robotic De Vince Surgery 10/29/2009. 1 night in hospital. No pain. Cath out on 11/6
Pathology Report: Gleason score 3+4. Margins slightly involved <.1mm to .25mm. Perineural invasion present, stage pT2c. Tumor 18%. Seminal Vesicle - absent, Lymph Nodes 0 of 6.
Continence- first 4 weeks after cath out Dry at night, rest of time, bladder held nothing. 6-7 pads per day. as of 12/30 no pads most of time. almost dry except for a few drips. I keep doing Kegels.
ED. Started VED on 12/17. 15 min every other day. 20mm cilias twice a week. No sign of life yet.


Purgatory
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   Posted 1/25/2010 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
With a robotic surgery, and assuming you dont have other medical conditions or a health history that would prevent it, a good surgeon could still work a surgery with you if that is what you wish.

Have you checked out all your options yet? Be a good time to meet with a Radiation Oncologist, and discuss any Radiation and/or Seeding options that might work better at your age.

Keep us posted, and ask as many questions as you need. You are welcomed here.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/10 - Corrective Surgery #4, and Caths #11 and #12 in at the same time


James C.
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   Posted 1/25/2010 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to HW, Bob. I'd venture someone here has some info about Denver surgical oncologists. In the meantime, there's lots of threads to read and catching up to do, if you're inclined... smilewinkgrin
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
24 mts: PSA's: .04 each test since surgery, ED Continues-Bimix .3ml PRN or Trimix .15ml PRN


erbob
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   Posted 2/4/2010 8:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Looks like I am going to attempt the seed route if the "seed planting Doctor" agrees that it'd do fine for me. At my age (a very young 73), I'd rather not have surgery. Hopefully, next week we'll drive from Southern Colorado up to Westmont, IL for a consultation and then hopefully get the seeds planted within a few days after the chat with the Doc. From all the research that I have done, it sounds like the Brachetherapy is going to work just fine for this old fart. Now, I'm just kinda curious as to how many days I'll have to wait after the procedure is completed before I can finally make the 1,000 mile drive back home. Don't want to overdo it but will be more than just a little anxious to get back home once again. Luckily, I have a daughter living in Naperville, IL only a half hour away from the Chicago Prostate Center so I'll have a warm/ friendly place to crash and do my moaning and groaning - if there is any. I'll post the results of the chat with the Doc and what's happening. Please keep me in mind fellow PC guys.
Bob, down in Southern Colorado


Purgatory
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   Posted 2/4/2010 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Bob,
Thanks for the update.

The seeding route might just be the perfect ticket for you. We have several men here using that route, and they have done real well by it so far. They will be happy to give you advice on the before and after part.

From what they have reported, you shouldn't be having too much of the moaning and groaning part, not unless you like to do that for the sheer sport of it, lol.

Good luck, and please keep us informed. We will stand behind you and your choice, brother.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/10 - Corrective Surgery #4, and Caths #11 and #12 in at the same time


John T
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   Posted 2/4/2010 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Bob,
You should be able to make the drive the next day without any problems. You will need to stop at least every hour because yu will have urgency and frequency for a few weeks, but shouldn't stop you from doing anything. You will have to get a followup CT scan two weeks after the procedure to verify the placement of the seeds, so you may have to make another trip.
I stuck around after my procedure for 10 days for the CT scan then drove 1500 miles with no problems except frequent stops.
JT

64 years old.

PSA rising for 10 years to 40, free psa 10-15. Had 5 urologists, 12 biopsies and MRIS all neg. Doctors DXed BPH and continue to get biopsies yearly. 13th biopsy positive in 10-08, 2 cores of 25, G6 less than 5%. Scheduled for surgery as recommended by Urological Oncologist.

2nd Opinion from Dr Sholtz, a Prostate Oncologist, said DX wrong, pathology shows indolant cancer, but psa history indicates large cancer or metastasis. Futher tests and Color Doppler confirmed large transition zone tumor that 13 biopsies and MRIS missed. G7, 4+3, approx 16mmX18mm.

Combidex MRI in Holland eliminated lymphnode mets. Casodex and Proscar reduced psa to 0.6 and prostate from 60mm to 32mm. Changed diet, no meat and dairy. All staging tests indicate that tumor is local and non agressive. (PAP, PCA3, MRIS, Color Doppler, Combidex, tumor reaction to diet and Casodex, and tumor location in transition zone). Surgery a poor option because tumor is located next to the urethea and positive margin is very likely; permanent incontenance is also high probability with surgery.

Seed implants on 5-19-09, 3 hours door to door, no pain, minor side affects are frequency and urgency; very controlable with Flowmax and lasted 4 weeks. Daily activities resumed day after implants with no restrictions. Gold markers implanted with seeds to guide IMRT.

25 treatments of IMRT 6 weeks after seed implants. No side affects at all.

PSA at end of treatment 0.02 mostly the result of Casodex. When I stop Casodex next week expect PSA to rise. Next PSA in November. Treatments and side affects have greatly exceeded my expectations. Glad to have this 11 year journey finally conclude.

JohnT


JoeFL
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   Posted 2/5/2010 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Bob,
 
Agree with John T above...with a couple of additional comments. My urgency and frequency (which I still have) is also accompanied by a burning sensation which has gotten somewhat better. You will also have some blood in the urine for the first week after the seeding and your scrotum with be black and blue for a while. I was also told to expect some low level, short term pain where the needles were inserted but I really did not experience that. As John pointed out, just be ready to make a lot of stops and to get up a lot at night for a couple of months. I would expect you to tolerate the procedure very well. Best wishes with your treatment.
 
(I lived in Naperville in the 70's...mostly cornfields then!)
 
Joe67
 
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Age -67 PSA - 4.5

Biopsy  (9/4/09) - Positive in 5 of 8 cores. In those 5 cores, 5 of 11 samples were positive. Gleason 3+3=6. Stage – T1C  Ct and Bone scans negative

 

BT performed on 12/11/09. 84 seeds of Palladium 103. Surgery at 7:30 - Home at 12:30 same day with no catheter. Side effects as expected -  some burning, frequency, urgency. (Blood in urine stopped after 1 week).  Resumed daily  1 ½ mile walk after 3 days.

 

BT will be followed with 25 IGRT treatments beginning Feb 8. 

 

________ 

Redman55
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   Posted 2/5/2010 1:06 PM (GMT -6)   
At 54, DaVinci surgery was the only way to fly. I would have seriously entertained other options if I were young 70's in age. Seeds may be the way to fly, or cyber-knife radiation may also be an option. They say that 75% of all men have PC when they kick the bucket, but that generally it is something else that leads them to staring at the wrong side of the divot.
Age 54
PSA 8/2009 5.6 Gleason 8
DaVinci surgery 11/2009
Pathology - totally contained in margins -one bundle spared
PSA now undetectable at < .05
Continance: Night and morning fine and improving
Doing 3 P's and now using trimix


Tudpock18
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   Posted 2/5/2010 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Bob:
 
Agreeing with John and Joe, I also believe you should have no trouble traveling the next day.  I was very much back to normal by then.  As I just mentioned in another thread, I did not have much urgency but I did have mild frequency issues...so watch for those rest stops and McDonalds.  Also, stay away from caffeine, alchohol and spicy foods and that should alleviate both urgency and frenquency.
 
Re cyber knife...I looked into it a bit before selecting BT and did not find suitable long term data to make me comfortable.
 
You should do just fine and find the procedure to be a piece of cake. 
 
Tudpock
Age 62, Gleason 4 +3 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2 of 16 cores cancerous, 27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 12/09.  6 month PSA 1.4 and now 1 year PSA at 1.0.  My docs are "delighted"!

soulmate 101
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   Posted 2/5/2010 4:52 PM (GMT -6)   
erbob, just wanted to say welcome. What great input and advice these gentlemen have for you already! Good luck with your treatment.

soulmate
Husband, age 57, diagnosed in December 09, after PSA velocity increase from 2.71 to 4.34 over one year prompted a prostate biopsy.
Gleason 4+3 = 7 stage T2c, laparoscopic nerve sparing Da Vinci robotic radical prostatectomy 1/13/10, clear surgical margins no lymph node or seminal vesicle involvement.
Let the healing begin...


erbob
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   Posted 2/8/2010 8:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Many thanks for all the encouragement.  I feel better hearing the uplifting stuff.  My appointment for a consultation at the Chicago Prostate Center is set up for 8AM Monday the 15th.  Doc said that since my 2nd path report raised/rearranged the Gleason 3+4=7 to 4+3=7,  I may be thinking of some radiation in addition to the seeds.  Hey, whatever it takes to survive for another 8 or 10 years minimum.  My research has brought me to the web site of the Fermi National Accelerator Lab located at Batavia, IL.  This facility has one huge powerful NEUTRON administering machine that is used for cancer patients with various types including prostate C.  Might have to look into this option as it is reported to much more powerful and precisely accurate than the regular radiation machines located at hospitals.  If it's really that powerful, just have to be concerned that it doesn't do more damage than good.  Again, thanks for the kind words and I'll keep posting the latest activity as this thing rolls along.
Joe67, as info, we lived in Naperville from 1969 until 1995 when retired to So. Colorado.  Lived out on Hwy 59 between the Fox Valley Shopping Ctr. and the EW Tollway.  Where did you live at that time????? 
Bob

Bob, down in Southern Colorado


t-dog
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   Posted 2/8/2010 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
hey bob, these are awesome people here that will really give you alot of insite. good luck to you brother
Dx at 50 in 12/09 Merry Christmas its cancer....
3 of 12 positive, right side only, psa at dx 2.6 free%14
gleason 3+3=6
routine physical, no symptoms
Da Vinci scheduled Feb. 2k10


erbob
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   Posted 2/15/2010 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Had my initial consultation with Dr. Brian Moran this morning at the Chicago Prostate Cancer Center, Westmont, IL. He explained the seed planting procedure and gave me a DRE and said felt nothing really unusual other than size which was normal for me, a 73 year old chap. Also had a volume study made along with catherization of the old pee wee which did burn just a little bit but no big deal at all. After checking the volume results, decided that he'd like to get the prostate reduced in size a bit prior to planting the seeds, so wrote a prescription for some fancy, tiny but EXPENSIVE pills to do a reduction on the gland.
Dang pills were $114.35 for just 30 pills and that was just the co-payment. Asked the Pharmacy guy what other than generic pills would cost and was told over $500 for a 30 day supply. Now I'll be taking one pill per day for the next 3 1/2 months when I am scheduled to return to Illinois from Colorado for the actual seed implanting. At least the drive back to Illinois this coming May should not expose us to the winter/slick roads for our 1,000+ mile drive like we just experienced this past weekend.
After leaving his facility and driving back to my daughters place (Naperville, IL) I had an extremely strong urge to take a big ole leak. Stopped at a Wendys for a quick burger for lunch and I bellied up the the urinal only to find that I had put my shorts on backwards after the volume study. Ouch, but made some quick shorts adjustment then was able to relieve myself and just pass a small amount of blood which I was told would happen. In a couple weeks, I'll have my local (Trinidad, CO) Urologist administer the hormone shot and then just be patient for the time to pass to head back to Illinois. I found the Chicago Prostate Cancer facility to be extremely clean, very efficient and truly friendly folks to deal with. Just my opinion of course.
Bob, down in Southern Colorado


Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 2/15/2010 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
"Bob" Good luck buddy. Take care and keep us posted.

Jeff T
Jeff T Age 57

9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable

10th month PSA <0.01
1year psa <0.01
ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily, going to try MUSE next. Next step injections.
15 months out injections Caveject (success)


Ziggy9
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   Posted 2/15/2010 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Bob I'm in the Denver area if you need to know about any doctors or clinics just ask. I began with the The Urology Center of Colorado by Invesco Field, but wound up doing my treatment at the Anshutz Cancer Pavilion at the University of Colorado Medical Center's Urologic Oncology staff. Although being you're in Trinidad, Denver isn't much closer than Albuquerque or Santa Fe, NM for that matter.

I don't understand why you're going all the way to Illinois but it's up to you.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
April 2009 12 of 12 Negative biopsy
10/12/09 - Psa .30
 
 
 


Ziggy9
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   Posted 2/15/2010 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
erbob said...
Had my initial consultation with Dr. Brian Moran this morning at the Chicago Prostate Cancer Center, Westmont, IL. He explained the seed planting procedure and gave me a DRE and said felt nothing really unusual other than size which was normal for me, a 73 year old chap. Also had a volume study made along with catherization of the old pee wee which did burn just a little bit but no big deal at all. After checking the volume results, decided that he'd like to get the prostate reduced in size a bit prior to planting the seeds, so wrote a prescription for some fancy, tiny but EXPENSIVE pills to do a reduction on the gland.
Dang pills were $114.35 for just 30 pills and that was just the co-payment. Asked the Pharmacy guy what other than generic pills would cost and was told over $500 for a 30 day supply. Now I'll be taking one pill per day for the next 3 1/2 months when I am scheduled to return to Illinois from Colorado for the actual seed implanting. At least the drive back to Illinois this coming May should not expose us to the winter/slick roads for our 1,000+ mile drive like we just experienced this past weekend.
After leaving his facility and driving back to my daughters place (Naperville, IL) I had an extremely strong urge to take a big ole leak. Stopped at a Wendys for a quick burger for lunch and I bellied up the the urinal only to find that I had put my shorts on backwards after the volume study. Ouch, but made some quick shorts adjustment then was able to relieve myself and just pass a small amount of blood which I was told would happen. In a couple weeks, I'll have my local (Trinidad, CO) Urologist administer the hormone shot and then just be patient for the time to pass to head back to Illinois. I found the Chicago Prostate Cancer facility to be extremely clean, very efficient and truly friendly folks to deal with. Just my opinion of course.


What pills are you taking to shrink the prostate? I'll assume it's avodart. You can take the generic form of proscar which is Finasteride much cheaper and it's near identical both will shrink the prostate. Ask your doctor about them,
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 - Not unexpected bounce after the 80% drop the quarter earlier. Along with urine flow readings, an acceptable amount left in bladder measured by sonic. Results warrant skipping third quarter tests, and to return April, 2009 for final biopsy scheduled to
complete clinical research study 
 
April 2009 12 of 12 Negative biopsy
10/12/09 - Psa .30
 
 
 


erbob
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   Posted 2/16/2010 8:17 AM (GMT -6)   
realziggy said...
Hey Bob I'm in the Denver area if you need to know about any doctors or clinics just ask. I began with the The Urology Center of Colorado by Invesco Field, but wound up doing my treatment at the Anshutz Cancer Pavilion at the University of Colorado Medical Center's Urologic Oncology staff. Although being you're in Trinidad, Denver isn't much closer than Albuquerque or Santa Fe, NM for that matter.

I don't understand why you're going all the way to Illinois but it's up to you.


realziggy,

The reason for going up to Illinois for treatment is because I have a daughter with family living about a half hour from the Chicago Prostate Cancer Center, Westmont, IL. I figured that since I may be here for some external radiation, it's be much handier to be up here rather than make a six hour round trip DAILYto Springs or Denver for those treatments. Starting to appear now that I may not be needing that additional radiation but time will tell. We had made the initial consultation with a Dr. Montoya at the TUCC in Denver and were very impressed but decided that I did not want surgery.
Had checked on the Albuquerque facility and they were pretty well filled up for a while. So, Illinois is the place I'll be getting serviced at. Thanks
Bob, down in Southern Colorado


erbob
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   Posted 2/16/2010 8:30 AM (GMT -6)   
"What pills are you taking to shrink the prostate? I'll assume it's avodart. You can take the generic form of proscar which is Finasteride much cheaper and it's near identical both will shrink the prostate. Ask your doctor about them" asked by realziggy.

The pills prescribed are Bicalutamide, 50mg.
Here's hoping they work as implied.
erbob
Bob, down in Southern Colorado


Ziggy9
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   Posted 2/16/2010 9:15 AM (GMT -6)   
erbob said...
"What pills are you taking to shrink the prostate? I'll assume it's avodart. You can take the generic form of proscar which is Finasteride much cheaper and it's near identical both will shrink the prostate. Ask your doctor about them" asked by realziggy.

The pills prescribed are Bicalutamide, 50mg.
Here's hoping they work as implied.
erbob


I didn't recognize that drug but found out it's the generic form of Casodex. I'm surprised he's prescribed that alone for on a google they state that's taken more in hope of slowing the cancer and in many cases it's used with Finasteride which does more to shrink the gland. But I'm not going to second guess your doctor. I'm sure the upgrade from 3+4=7 to 4+3=7 has much to do with it. In your situation I think I too would have chose seeding. By the way are you a golfer? I ask because I've been wanting to play Cougar Canyon GC down there in Trinidad and wonder if it's as nice as advertised. I heard it's one of the better newer courses in the state. But then again it's barely in the state and a good drive from here.

If you ever need any recommendations up here just ask, Good luck Bob.

Rick


Rick

erbob
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   Posted 2/16/2010 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Rick
No, I'm no golfer however my favorite past time sport is target shooting and reloading my ammo. I still enjoy a trip to the Denver Mdse. Mart for an occasional gun show or two. I do have a real good friend who is an avid golfer and he indicated that the Cougar Canyon Golf Course is really nice but a little on expensive side for the Trinidad residents. It is said that they also have a very nice restaurant on their property too. If you ever have the opportunity to get down to play golf at Cougar Canyon, be sure to email me to let me know you'll be in the area. As information, the City of Trinidad is known to have a real good municipal golf course too but it's only a nine hole course.
At lunch time today, I'll visit the pharmacy to see if the drug Pravastatin is OK to take with this Bicalutamide. Sure don't want the benefits to be negated by taking the drugs in combination.
Bob, down in Southern Colorado

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