Penis Length restoraton after prostectomy

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   Posted 2/21/2010 2:23 AM (GMT -6)   
...Like many on here I have had a somewhat shorter penis after prostectomy...Its been a year now since my operation and I have been looking into options for restoration ...I have found much on the internet ,but I am very reluctant to go the snake oil path...I have  however seen the stretcher device that has some science behind it....There is a referance to it through a site called ...Harley Fit...The procedure takes some time..Maybe a year.,but has  proven results..Just wondering if others have looked at this device...Thanks Jack

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   Posted 2/21/2010 3:54 AM (GMT -6)   

I thought someone posted a while back about possible risks with stretcher type devices as they might damage/tear the tissue inside the penis so that it doesn't work at all.

My penis is also shorter, both flaccid and erect, but I'm okay this side effect so long as I remember to check before I pee that there's enough pipe to aim the delivery system properly


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   Posted 2/21/2010 6:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't think the penis actually gets shorter after prostetectomy. It's the urethra that was shortened when that part of it inside the prostate was lost and the penis is pulled inward when the surgeon sutures it back to the bladder neck. I've sort of rehabilitated that problem doing a yoga exercise called "The Cobra" which stretches everything in the suprapubic area. You can get a book on yoga exercises to see how it's done. Pretty simple.


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   Posted 2/21/2010 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I know what you mean Steve,
If you dig up a bush that's 6feet tall and replant it in a hole that's a foot deeper the bush is still six feet tall, it's just that you can only see 5 feet of it.


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   Posted 2/21/2010 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Exactly Alf, it "appears" to be shorter, but it's not. It's the urethra that needs to be stretched, not Willie.


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   Posted 2/21/2010 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
When I asked my Uro if he had performed a penisectomy rather than the promised prostatectomy he said he did not shorten the penis at all. I lost the support behind it. Apparently I must have had a lot of support as I now have a microwave antenna where a UHF used to be.

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   Posted 2/21/2010 6:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I have decided I've had enough procedures in that neighborhood.

I think it will be easier to advertise for a partner with a shallower requirement. However, my current partner will then make sure I have no need for any partnering.

I personally think the VED on a regukar basis ( daily ) is probably just as effective as a stretcher as any other device .
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01

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   Posted 2/21/2010 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
My surgeon explained in advance on this subject. Once the prostate is gone, the bladder has lost one of its original fastening places. When the surgeon makes the very delicate bladder neck to urethra connection (involves some of the most skilled techniques in the entire op), the urethra is not actually pulled back toward the bladder, the bladder is now less rigid in its mount, and is pulled toward the urethrea.

The bladder's angle can change, depending upon size and pelvic bed area. So he said, especially at first after surgery, the weight of the bladder pulls the urethra inward, and since it runs through the penis to the tip, it will appear smaller mostly when in a flacid state.

In most cases, in the errect status, it doesn't appear shorter, according to my doctor. In practice, that was the case for me. When I was first out of surgery, I swore my willy was not only comatose, but had disapeared altogether. But as time went by, and when I was finally cath free enough after surgery (63 days) to attempt errections, he was right. I was fortunate not to have any ED issue, once the wee one came out of the coma and started working again, the length errect is for all extensive purposes, the same as before surgery. Sometimes now when flacid, its much smaller, other times it's about the same.

Lot of factors here, so there won't be any concensus of opinion, I wouldn't think. The fun world of PC has all these variables in every area.

For the majority of men that face ED, either in the short term or long term, I think it would be real important to follow dr's orders, in using the sex drugs and/or pump for medical reasons, even if they bring no recreational value early on. It's important to keep the blood flowing in and out of that region. When you think about how we function pre-surgery, its all about blood being let in, and then being held while errect, and then being released again after use.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 in at the same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days

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   Posted 2/22/2010 5:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I know my penis is shorter both flaccid and erect.
I can prove it.
I don't want to sound like I had nothing better to do, but before and after the op I took photos, and in the photos it is so obvious that there is a difference that there is no need to even get out a tape measure.

Things are okay now but one day about 6 weeks after the op the flaccid length was actually down to zero. Okay so I could "rub and tug" to restore something, but a flaccid penis that gets that short can actually be problem.

There have been plenty of posts about guys peeing and not having enough pipe available to clear their pants when standing up or to point in the bowl when sitting.
Going to the bathroom is a thing you do almost without thinking about, but I now have to remember to add another five to ten seconds to the "preparation time" when having a pee to make sure things are pulled out far enough before I start, rather than just start without checking and end up with wet clothing.

As for my erect penis size, well I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. I can get erections without VED pills or injections so I'm not going to complain that it's about an inch shorter. (It has to be an inch on the basis of where my fingers or my wife's fingers now have to hold it.)
It is possible to get most of that inch back by putting one hand under my scrotum and finding the root end and then pushing things forwards, but I can't do anything in that position except look like I'm giving myself a DRE.

The world in general has been and is too concerned with penis length.
When I tried Google on this subject and searched for "Shorter penis" it came back with: "Did you mean longer penis?"

So Jack, I think it's best to be a bit pragmatic about this loss of length business. Do plenty of gentle and regular manipulation to keep the blood flowing etc so things all stay healthy, but I wouldn't want to risk damaging anything for the sake of length.

I'm now quite happy to go along with the idea that the ancient Romans are said to have regarded a small penis as being more desirable and civilised!


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   Posted 2/22/2010 5:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Alf, I could not agree more.

I also ended up about an inch shorter, and I am also not going to jump up and down about it. 26 months after my open prostatectomy I have about 50% of pre-op erectile function, only occasionally fit for a semi-successful intercourse. This is emotionally taxing, but only until I think about the context. The bottom line of that context is that I'd much rather have a shorter and semi-functional johnson, but be alive and with my family , than achieve the greatest erection in the entire cemetery, leaving my wife a widow and my daughter an orphan. If I have to use V, C or L for the rest of my days, so be it. I am not going to become a mental slave to my dick - in this relationship I am the owner, and not the other way around. I completely agree with your view that the world in general has been and is too concerned with penis length.

I chose surgery with my eyes open, with all other options on the table, fully cognisant of possible side effects.
In my view, these side effects were then and still are an acceptable price to pay for being cancer free.
I am not going to measure my manliness by the length of my dick, flaccid or erect.
Skippy_1954 (Australia)
age at dx 53,
PSA at dx 6.0,
biopsy, Aug 2007: T2aNxMx Gleason 7 (3+4)
open RRP + PLND 01Nov2007, both bundles spared,
post-op pathology pT2aN0Mx, Gl.7 (3+4), margins negative, no perineural involvement, lymph nodes clean.
PSA since surgery undetectable (below 0.04).
Continence back to 100% of pre-op state within 2 mths of surgery;
potency initially nil, 30% at 12 months, 50% at 24 months with regular tadalafil + sildenafil before practical attempts.

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   Posted 2/22/2010 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Most of the comments about penis length seem to relate to the male concern about the ability to provide sexual satisfaction to your wife or lover. My impression is that most women are not at all concerned about the size of your penis and are more interested in how you use your hands, lips and especially your tongue.
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   Posted 2/22/2010 11:29 AM (GMT -6)   
A number of years ago, after prostate surgery, my cousin reported that his erect penis was the same length as his cat’s tail. When I protested the improbability of this, he explained that you had to measure them the same way – starting at the axxhole!
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day
9 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day ED remains

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   Posted 2/22/2010 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah Skippy the guys in the cemetery all seem really stiff. Oh no wait a sec....

Q. What do you call the silly pink thing on the end of a penis?
A. A man.


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   Posted 2/22/2010 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
What type of underwear do older men wear?
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