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craig10
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   Posted 2/22/2010 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I am awaiting surgery. I have had this idea that orgasms now could shake cancer cells loose in my prostate....I don't want to do ANYTHING that might make this worse...am I worried too much?
age 55, married, kids and grandkids
2008 psa 4.7
2010 psa 5.5
biopsy 2-10 -- 3 of 12 samples positive ca 60% 25% and 20%
perineural invasion not seen
location rt apex
3+4=7
waiting for second opinion, Aureon report and prostascint scan and treatment... scared.


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 2/22/2010 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Your question reminds me of knocking the lose marbles inside my head when I fall...
 
It took you 55 years to get where you are at this moment...Not much you can do to make it worse between now and surgery time. Good luck to you.

EDIT: Forgot to mention - knowing what I know now - I would "get it" while you still can..Doing so is good for the head.


Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Post Edited (Steve n Dallas) : 2/22/2010 9:13:52 AM (GMT-7)


James C.
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   Posted 2/22/2010 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
craig, your theory of shaking cells loose isn't likely and probably the odds are in the multi-million to one. .... yes, you're worried too much. smilewinkgrin Not gonna happen---instead, you should be taking every opportunity to have sex, even trying the big 3 ED pills before you may need them, to get a baseline for how they may work afterwards. As I've seen it posted here, your prostate gland needs draining, repeatedly before approaching surgery (a joke, of course) but don't let opportunities pass you by. It may be months, years, or the next day before you can easily just roll over and have sex, so enjoy it now. I hope you are one of the guys who bounce right back as soon as the catheter is removed, though..
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
32 mts: PSA's: .04 each test since surgery, ED Continues-Bimix .3ml PRN or Trimix .15ml PRN

Post Edited (James C.) : 2/22/2010 9:49:42 AM (GMT-7)


MrGimpy
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   Posted 2/22/2010 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Could in theory, but then again so could a car accident, ski fall, or getting hit in the testicles with a ball while playing catch.

My Dr told me that leading up to surgery to have sex as often as possible, this ensures that the muscles are working as best as they can. Muscles have memory and they will need that memory to recover faster
Stats:
Age: 52, PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on 01/09/09, Gleason Score = 3+3
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Post Op Path 3+3
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, <0.01 - 3 months post-op
PSA 1/10 undetectable, <0.01 - 9 months post-op
Trimix provides 100% erectile function


Worried Guy
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   Posted 2/22/2010 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Craig,
One way to surely keep the cells from breaking loose is to worry about them. I know I couldn't have gottien it up if I had that image in my head.
Glad I didn't!
Enjoy now. As Joni Mitchell said: "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." (I believe the song was: "Big Yellow Prostate".)
Consider it physical therapy homework.
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots, See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix unsuccessful.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (Try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day
1/11/10 6 months: Still 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05.


Mavica
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Date Joined Jun 2008
Total Posts : 407
   Posted 2/24/2010 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
You worry too much, I think. Have as much sex as you can now - so that you can remember, later, what it was like "in the 'old' days."

Age:  60 (58 at diagnosis - June, 2008)

April '08 PSA 4.8 ("free PSA" 7.9), up from 3.5 year prior

June '08 had biopsy, 2 days later told results positive but in less than 1% of sample

Gleason's 3+3=6

Developed sepsis 2 days post-biopsy, seriously ill in hospital for 3 days

Dr. recommended robotic removal using da Vinci

Surgery 9/10/08

Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Chicago, IL

Dr. Robert Nadler, Urologist/Surgeon

Post-op Gleason's:  3+3, Tertiary 4

Margins:  Free

Bladder & Urethral:  Free

Seminal vesicles:  Not involved

Lymphatic/Vascular Invasion:  Not involved

Tumor:  T2c; Location:  Bilateral; Volume:  20%

Catheter:  Removed 12-days after surgery

Incontinent:  Yes (1/2 light pads per day)

Combination of Cialis and MUSE (alprostadil) three times weekly started 9-27-08

Returned to work 9-29-08 (18-19 days post-op)

PSA test result, post-op, 10/08: 0.0; 12/08: 0.0; 4/09: 0.0; 9/09: 0.0

 


Purgatory
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Total Posts : 25364
   Posted 2/24/2010 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Absolutely, no way that could happen. Do it all you can while you still can, and while it will still be the way you will look back and remember
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 in at the same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days


zufus
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   Posted 2/24/2010 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   
I heard you could go deaf or blind by doing such (LOL-LOL), so get me a leader dog (LOL).So who is the donor for the sex therapies? Joke: I married for better or for worse: I married the better and she says its the worst!!! Back to the donor theories: Is it Mr. Right(hand) or rapture-Rita or Senorita or other categories, that make these therapeutic remedies-events happen...I have not heard that one 'I need to strenghten muscles'...hey if it works? Women beware of a new catch phrase here(LOL)....men will supply plenty of aspirin so no headaches are possible.  Craig we have not heard that PCa can escape somehow by such, we cannot prove it either way at this time, so go for it.
 
 
Ancient Proverb: woman whom put man in dog house....later find him in cat house
(this also can lead to cat fight in mans house later)


Youth is wasted on the Young-(W.C. Fields)

Post Edited (zufus) : 2/24/2010 8:58:22 AM (GMT-7)


Bimshire
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   Posted 2/24/2010 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Craig; I am 55 years old, 2 weeks post robotic surgery and very potent with no incontinence issues. My view about sex prior to surgery was that I wanted to enjoy sex as much as possible because I was unsure about what my potency would be after surgery. Obviously your clinical picture may be very different but I would say, GO for it unless your surgeon says differently.
Good luck and I am sending you positive energy for a smooth surgery, speedy recovery; FULL potency and NO incontinence. All of those things are not only possible but many of us are testament to them happeningyeah In my case I had an erection while my catheter was still in (not a good idea however)nono
Harold

Post Edited (Bimshire) : 2/24/2010 3:22:33 PM (GMT-7)

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