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   Posted 2/28/2010 1:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello all
    It's been about four weeks, since I got the biopsy back [3+4=7 /8 cores positive ]and found this website. Have done a lot of reading since then and what the hey, I'm going for it. Made a surgery date for April 14th, gives me about a month an half to get ready.
     I'm going to be throwing some wild question at you guy's and gal's in the next month, sure you've heard  them all.
                                                                                                                                 Thank's again Tim

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   Posted 2/28/2010 6:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Loved the headline-A Date with a Robot- (Joke intended for fun): looks like the robot will be going for 3rd base and steal home plate, wonder do you skip 1st-2nd base in this proceedure??? What type of robot is this and does it have a sister?

Hope you have a sense of humor, wish you well on this, alot of guys know these waters and can help you navigate. Robot rejected me, so I met a hottie and had a nuclear time lying down with that one and 35 sessions-couldn't get enough this type ofyeah robot must be nympho, so I had different dating pattern but feel good. (lol) 

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   Posted 2/28/2010 7:11 AM (GMT -6)   


Glad that you've made the decision to date the robot.  You'll have to let us know how that date goes.

In the meantime no question is too wild for us.



Age:  63 
Biopsy: May 09 showed 2 of 12 cores positive for prostate cancer -- 1 at 5% and 1 at 25%.  Cancer indicated as non aggressive.  Gleason Score: 3+3.
RRP on Oct 23/09 in London, Ontario.  Excellent surgeon. 
7 Weeks Post Op -  The fears I had about bad things about the operation and recovery did not materialise except of course ED!!.  Otherwise, everything went very smoothly.  Incontinence not a problem.  Wear a pad when out just in case. Pain was never a problem.
Pathology:  Unremarkable 
First followup PSA and Visit: Feb 11/10 - 0.0.
Next PSA May
Next doctor's visit in 6 months      

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   Posted 2/28/2010 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Timm, congratulations. Hope the robot will be gentle with you.
Husband diagnosed in 2/2008 at age 57 with stage T1c. Robotic surgery performed 3/2008. Stage upgraded to T3a (single small EPE in posterior left). Perineural tumor infiltration present. Apex margin, bladder neck and SV negative. Final Gleason 3+4. PSA: 0.0 til July 2009. August 2009- 0.1, September 0.3, October back to 0.0, December 0.0. Thank you God!

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 2/28/2010 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Fire away with the question. One bit of advise. Since you have a date might I suggest you and you significant other need to dance as much as you can. rolleyes While you are waiting.

Jeff T
Cajun Country
Jeff T Age 57

9/08 PSA 5.4, referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3/4=7
10/08 Nerve sparing open RRP- Path Report: GS 3+3=7 Stg. pT2c, margins clear
3 mts: PSA .05 undetectable

10th month PSA <0.01
1year psa <0.01
ED- 5 mg Cialis daily, pump daily, going to try MUSE next. Next step injections.
15 months out injections Caveject (success)

In This Together Wife
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   Posted 2/28/2010 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome--you will find lots of support here. Keep us posted.
(Bear's stats) Age 49
 8-4-09    Family Practioner for back pain  PSA 4.9
8-20-09  Consult with urologist                PSA 4.89
9-2-09    Biopsy          3 cores positive 7% 3+3 (6) gleason
11-13-09 DaVinci
11-23-09 Cath removed  Path report cancer contained neg. margins
Feb 2010 wil be followup PSA

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   Posted 2/28/2010 8:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, believe it or not, the worst part of the whole thing is over. Deciding on treatment is such an ordeal. Now that you have a direction and plans, you will feel much more in control.
Ask any questions you want. Have sex every day. eat, drink and be merry.
Also, would you add your signature to your posts? That way we can follow along. Your email is perfectly safe there as well. I've never gotten spam from HW.
Paul ED website for PCa guys

46 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
10/07 PSA 5.06 (Biopsy 11/07 1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report: Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.) Never a problem since.
ED - at one year, ED is fine with viagra.
Two year PSA - undetectable!

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   Posted 2/28/2010 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Tim, welcome, and don't worry about questions, ask all you want, they will be answered with a variety of good opinions.

Do you recall the percentage of cancer found in your 8 positive cores? Was curious.

Please keep us posted.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 in at the same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days

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   Posted 2/28/2010 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome Timm - Mr. GFM had robotic surgery in November 2007. Worked very well and all systems are "go" now. Wishing you every success and a speedy recovery!

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   Posted 2/28/2010 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Me and the robot had a good thing going for about 4hrs. I can only briefly remember what she looked likes, now that she is gone i feel a little empty. You will do fine ask as many questions as you want, somebody here has either been there or they will steer you in the right direction. Just remember that everybody is different so you may or may not go through what some of us have gone through.
Good luck, keep us posted.
age 45
psa 3.09
Biopsy results 12/9
Left side base 3+3=6 21% 2/2 cores positive
Left side mid  3+3=6 100% 2/2 cores positive
Left side apex 3+4=7 88% 2/2 cores positive
Right side - 0/6
CT & Bone scan negative
Davinci Feb. 5th 2010/ cath removal 2/16
Extent of tumor-Bilateral
Extraprostatic Extension-Absent
Seminal Vesicles-Negative for tumor
Surgical Margins-Rt apical margin focally positive
lymphovascular invasion-Suspicious in areas of capsular involvement
Regional lymph nodes-One node negative
Stage-T2c NO Mx

Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 2/28/2010 12:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you thhink that you will make out on the first date or get all the way to home plate?
Good luck and please keep us up to date.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm in circumference.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 4 months
8 weeks PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1
8 months PSA test 10/9/09 result <0.1
11.5 months test 1/21/10 result 0.004

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   Posted 2/28/2010 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   

 Hey Guy's

 Thanks for being there, Hope I get Lucky.

age 58
PSA 12/4 6.94
Biopsy 1/22  8 out of 12 cores positive
Gleason 3+4=7
An estimated 90% of the tumor is grade3.
CT and bone clean.
Da Vinci 4/14

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   Posted 2/28/2010 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   


That is a great date.  That will be my 1 year anniversary.

Best of luck.  The surgery is actually the easiest part of this whole process.  All you have to do is lay down and sleep.  Then the work begins.


Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01

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   Posted 2/28/2010 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi others have suggested...use the little guy as much as you can tween now and your date with the robot. I'm 74 and had been chasing BPH for many years. Once my PSA hit 4.0 the needle biopsy's began. Last one in December of 09 finally found 2 of 12 cores (both in the left lobe). CT scan and bone scan pretty much assured me it was contained. Had mine performed at Henry Ford, Detroit by Dr. Peabody on February 10 (last one that day) and was home by 3:00 PM the following day. Biggest problem I had over the next week was digestive and colon. Left the hospital with a "pubic" catheter which is common these days and it came out nine days later. My prostate simply put was the size of a lime. Henry Fords Vattikuti program has quite a post educational program in place walking one through what to expect and how to take care of your little guy in order to get him working again. It's now been 18 days post operation for me and I feel like I should be doing more but the rules are no lifting / pushing / pulling anything over 20 lbs. While doing some rejuvenating things for the little guy no parties for a minimum of three weeks but some suggest waiting six weeks which I plan on doing. I was concerned about continence especially nighttime but was told and have found one doesn't produce as much urine while in bed / sleeping. I'm getting up two or three times / night. So far not happy with daytime continence with a sneeze or similar giving me a dribble. Word is this will improve with more healing. Since you have some time it's suggested you practice the KEGEL exercises prior to your procedure which will help the continence thing. No doubt you've made the right decision with getting rid of that rascal with the big "C"! yeah

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   Posted 2/28/2010 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   

That robot will be more intimate with you than you have ever been. In this case, a one night stand is best. :)

Diagnosis at age 53. PSA 2007 about 2; PSA 2008 4.3
Biopsy September 2008: 6 of 12 cores positive; Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter out on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, out again 14th day following negative cystogram
Pathology: pT2c; lymph nodes negative; margins involved; 41 grams, 8% involved by tumor; same Gleason 4+3=7
PSA 1/22/08 non-detectable! 8-)
4/23/09, 07/30/09, Oct 2009, Nov 09, Feb 10 still undetectable (<0.01)!

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   Posted 2/28/2010 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Timm.  I had the daVinci surgery on February 16th.  The surgery is the easiest part.  The waiting and the anxiety buildup as the surgery grows nearer are far worse.  My surgery lasted 5 hours, and I spent 3 days in the hospital.  Post surgery pain was minimal.  The biggest pain that I felt was the feeling that my bladder was super-full on the first night after surgery.   This is a common side-effect of the catheter.  They gave me morphine that first night, and it helped me to sleep through that pain.  I have what look like 6 stab wounds.  Five were for the daVinci robot, and one was for a drain that they had in for a little over a day.  My biggest problem post-surgery, and the reason that I stayed in the hospital for three days was that my bowels were slow to awaken after surgery.  I had the catheter in for 11 days, and just had it removed yesterday.  My incontinence has been minimal.  I wore pads yesterday, and noticed that the only leakage I had was when my bladder got really full.  I have gone all day today with no pads and no drips, so maybe I am just lucky.  ED thus far has not been a problem, as I had them with the catheter still in, and also post-catheter removal, although there is some pain involved .   I have an appointment tomorrow with my urologist, and I assume he will still prescribe some ED meds.
Age 46
PSA 10/09=4.60
Biopsy 12/09
Left side benign
Rt side 3of 4 cores positive, 70%
Initial Gleason 3+4
2nd Opinion Gleason 3+3
DaVinci surgery 2/16/10
Catheter removed 2/27/10

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   Posted 2/28/2010 7:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Gleason7:
Where are you from? I had Dr. Menon do my surgery at Ford.

63 years old . PSA-- 3/08--2.90; 8/09--4.01; 11/09--4.19 (Free PSA 24%),  after 45 days on cipro! DREs have always been normal. PCA-3

Biopsy on 11/30/09. 5 out of 12 cores positive. Gleason 4+3. 2 cores were 3+3 (one 5% and the other 30%) on one side. On  other side:2 cores are 4+3 (5%)--1 core 3+4 (30%) no peri-neural invasion. prostate is 45 grams. Stage: T1C.  

Surgery with Dr. Menon at Ford Hospital, 1/26/10. He says all looked good. Spared nerves. Unfortunately: Pathology Report: G 4+3 (65%-35%). Cancer in 15% of gland. Lymph Nodes: Clear.  Perineural Invasion: yes. Seminal Vessical Involvement: No.  Extraprostatic Extension: yes.  Positive Margin: Yes-- focal-- 1 spot .5mm. Final Weight is 52.7 gms. 

 Incontinence: joined that club-- definite leaks—1 pad/day. Night is dry, was  using 1 pad at night for security, but pretty much dispensed with that most nights. Update: no pads at night. No pads while at home, but still very uncomfortable. Use 1 pad for out-of-house activities.

Next Event: First post-op PSA on 3/2/10

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   Posted 2/28/2010 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   

Congratulations on choosing the next step in healing. That is the hardest part for all of us!

I hope you find some relief in the decision.

Gather all the questions you can regarding the procedure, the hospital stay, and what to expect during the weeks following. Your health care professionals show be able to provide helpful answers well before your surgery.

Kind regards,

Surgery: Da Vinci; July 31, 2007; 54 on surgery day;
Pathology: PSA: 4.3; Gleason: 3+3=6; T2a; Confined to Prostate;
Post RP PSAs: 09/07 <0.04; 12/07 <0.04; 03/08 <0.04;
06/08 <0.04; 12/08 <0.04; 06/09 =0.06; 09/09 <0.04;
Latest PSA 12/09 =0.05

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   Posted 3/1/2010 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there Compiler....I live in Clarkston MI. and good morning Timm......Depending on where you are having your procedure you might ask about the "pubic catheter" which they use at Henry Ford (can't speak for all) but my penile catheter came out the day after my procedure or the day I came home. Can imagine how uncomfortable it would be with one in the little guy for several day. That first shower feels great and I used one of the elastic straps that comes with the leg bag, up on my thigh to support it while in the shower. As one of the other guys suggested the first couple days at home he gave up on changing to the lag bag during the day just leaving the night bag on and carrying it around the house in a pail.

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   Posted 3/1/2010 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   

Concrat. on getting though to the other side, it had to take a lot of strength to take that ride to the hospital. I feel pretty good now but I know as the time gets shorter, I'm going to be sweating bullets.

I have a bit of the " Rocky " thing going on, started the Kegel, [hope I'm doing it right] situps and the family dog been taking me for a
3 1/2 mile walk every day.

By the way, has anybody seen the interveiw with a former NFL player with PC., he says that he would drink 40 oz. of water and go for a walk, could that work? If anybody has some prep.or advice, I'll take it.-Thanks everyone Tim

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   Posted 3/1/2010 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Timm.....Nothing about the benefit of drinking lots of water before the procedure, only the Kegel's. If while taking a leak you can cut the stream off...those are the Kegels. Don't know how you feel about viewing the operating room but I had watched the video and decided I didn't need to see all of the equipment so when the anesthesiologist spoke with me before hand I asked that I be put to sleep before I arrived in the OR. My procedure took four hours largely because my prostate was so large the surgeon needed extra time to hook the urethra up to the bladder. Didn't get to my room till after 8:00 PM. That one and only night in the hospital wasn't that bad at all as has been the whole procedure. Sure beats needle biopsy's and waiting for the results. Chances are for your recovery, in order to get blood flowing to the little guy again your doctor will be prescribing 25 mg / Viagra / nightly. Most insurances will not cover these kinds of drugs. Hospital post recovery seminar suggested "". A years supply of 100 mg Viagra cost me $239.00. They are located in Canada but the drugs come from India. Could have attempted to get an exception from BC but it would still have been more expensive. Today is day 19 post op for me and I feel great...just dealing with some sneeze leaks etc. Got up twice last night.

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   Posted 5/30/2010 7:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Looking for Timm! (yours was the first post I checked out on this site).
What's up Timm? By now you will have had your surgery and well on the way to rehab.

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   Posted 5/30/2010 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Glad you made your choice and we will be here for support. In life there are somethings you only want to date one time, and the robot is one of them. It's cold and emotionless, but gets the job done most the time. Dance, eat, play and enjoy life, then it will be time to rest for a bit. If all goes well you'll be back at it soon enough. Keep us posted.
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed, 61 yo 2010
Robotic surgery 5/09 Atlanta, Ga
Catheter out after 10 days
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
 started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
T2C left lateral and left posterior margins involved
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4, 6 1/2 month psa.5 on 11/28/10
Starting IMRT on 1/18/10, Completed 39 tx at 70 gys on 3/12/10
6 week Post IMRT PSA .44 a drop from .5 but maybe more
Great family and friends

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   Posted 5/30/2010 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Alas...the last w heard from Timm was way back on March first and he's already forgotten us!

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   Posted 5/30/2010 11:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Gleason
     How have you been? Hope everything going good. Iv'e been around, mostly lurking but have put out a few post replies out there.
Surgery went real well still using three or four pads a day but it"s getting better. I pulled a .01 last wed. the 26th, cant" get any better than that. Doc. says I'm doing pretty good and can start doing some work around here,[6wks out from the robot], good thing the back lawns about three feet high. I feel pretty good but sure run out of gas in a hurry, been doing my Kegels and walking a good hour and a half a day.
All and all I feel real lucky, it's funny the Doc. been having some of his new patients call me about Da Vinci and the first thing I tell them is get on this site as fast as you can. And to respond to your post: Your not getting rid of me that easy, I owe to much, pay it forward to you guys.
Anyway, thanks for the post, hope you have a great Memorial day weekend and all is well with you and your Family.
58 yrs.
PSA 6.94  12/10
Bio. 8 of 12 cores pos. 2/1
Gleason   3+4=7
Da Vinci    4/14
Tumor volume  9%
Extraprostatic extension- within margins
Margins    clear
T2c NO Mx
PSA. 6wks. post sugery .01

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