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JB71
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   Posted 3/2/2010 10:32 AM (GMT -6)   
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Asked my oncologist if I could ride my Goldwing motorcycle while traveling back and forth ( 130 miles in total ) for my radiation treatments. Weather permitting of course but would save a bundle in fuel costs.
 
Response: "No one asked him before, so he didn't know!"
 
What do you guys think ?
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Age, only 71.
 
July 2009, PSA 9.1, free ratio 0.16
September GLEASON 4+4=8, T2A
Prostate 44cc.
 
Calcium: 2.46  (range: 2.20 - 2.65 mmol/L)
25 Hydroxy Vitamin D: 102 (range: sufficiency:
76 - 250 nmol/L)
 
Bone Scan: Negative
CT Scan scheduled for Dec. 1st. Negative.
 
Started Casodex 50mg. on Nov. 6, first pill of 30.
Got Lupron 22.5mg ( 90 day ) on  November 19.
 
No real side effects as of Dec. 15 except dry skin and hair but getting quite 'porky' in the belt area even though now I go to the gym, three times a week. Also I dont have a need to shave anymore so now I can save my 'shaving' allowance and direct it to my stash of Depends !
 
Christmas Day got my first hot flashes. Thanks Santa!
 
Open surgery scheduled for Jan. 22 by Dr. J. Chen
 
Open surgery done on Jan. 20th. by Dr. J. Chin at London's University Hospital.
 
Cath removel scheduled for Feb. 8th. Yes, I know,
that will be 19 days. Dr. is out of country until then.
====================================
Pathology Report:
 
Gleason Score: cannot be determined due to hormone therapy effects. ???????
 
Extraprostatic Extension:
present, left radial, multifocal
present, left basal, multifocal
 
Resection Margins:
Apical: involved by invasive carcinoma, multifocal
Bladder Neck: involved by invasive carcinoma, unifocal on left side.Other: non-tumoural prostatic present at resection margin.
 
Perineural Invasion: present.
Seminal Vesicle Invasion: absent
Lymphovascular Invasion: absent
Lymph Node Status: no malignancy in regional lymph nodes
 
Additional path. findings:
high grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia
 
Pathology Stage: yp T3a NO MX
==================================
Radialogist appointment was on Friday Feb. 26 with Dr. Glenn Bauman in London.
 
Got another Lupron 90 day shot today and he wants to start IMRT soon. CT Scan plus measure scheduled in about 3 weeks. ( march 20)
 
First PSA test since surgery on March 25th.
 
Next appointment with the surgery Doc is April 13.
 
.

Post Edited (JB71) : 3/2/2010 11:03:01 AM (GMT-7)


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 3/2/2010 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Goldwing as in motorized bike?
 
Since you doc didn't scream HECK NO ...I don't see why not as long as you're physically fit.
Age 54   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


60Michael
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 2243
   Posted 3/2/2010 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
That bike is probably a more comforatable ride than my pickup truck. Just watch for factors like fatigue that might make it a little more of a challenge. When I leave my IMRT I usualy have to stop at a restroom within 15-20 minutes. But what a great way to spice up an otherwise unpleasant day. Enjoy.
Michael
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed
Robotic surgery 5/09 Atlanta, Ga
Catheter out after 10 days
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
Margin slightly involved
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
8/5 1 depend at night only, now none
 started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4, 6 1/2 month psa.5
Starting IMRT on 1/18/10
Great family and friends
Michael


English Alf
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Date Joined Oct 2009
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   Posted 3/2/2010 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm In Holland so plenty of pedal cycling here, but I haven't been on a motorbike for about 30 years.
They told us we could do things like riding a bike again somewhere between 6 and 10 weeks after surgery (robotic).

How far can you manage at present?

I'm guessing you might get saddle pain.

I would imagine that it might be okay at the begining, but as the radiation starts to take effect it might be harder, on the basis of how other guys have been you will start feeling pretty tired halfway through the treatment, and if you have any diarhea or bowel trouble etc as a side effect then that might not be very convenient on a Goldwing either.
Is the 65 mile journey easy to break up into stages with places where you can stop and rest if you need to.

It might for example turn out to be a false economy if on say the twenty fifth day you needed a hotel for the night or a taxi home.

I'm still hoping my stats won't change and mean that I need radiation, but if I do I will face a daily round trip of about 130km, and am already wondering about the cost, as I would be doing the trip by train.

There must be some bikers here though who can give a more usefuyl bit of advice.
(Did you see the Australian guy on the news who yesterday set a new jump record for a Harley?)

Alfred

JB71
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Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 206
   Posted 3/2/2010 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
English Alf:

You're probably right about the fatigue issue. When I start doing the IMRT, it will be Spring time, as in, end April and most days would not allow such a long trip on a bike anyway. By the time I'm close to done, it will be mid-June and hopefully we'll be enjoying much, warmer weather than last year.

As for breaking the ride, we have something here you dont experience in Holland: a straight 60 mile highway, with no towns, no gas stations, no nothing. Pretty boring actually.

I guess I'll be playing this by ear, but if the Doc had said NO, I wouldn't consider it, period.

By the way, I was born in Naaldwyk, back in 1938.
.
Age, only 71.
 
July 2009, PSA 9.1, free ratio 0.16
September GLEASON 4+4=8, T2A
Prostate 44cc.
 
Calcium: 2.46  (range: 2.20 - 2.65 mmol/L)
25 Hydroxy Vitamin D: 102 (range: sufficiency:
76 - 250 nmol/L)
 
Bone Scan: Negative
CT Scan scheduled for Dec. 1st. Negative.
 
Started Casodex 50mg. on Nov. 6, first pill of 30.
Got Lupron 22.5mg ( 90 day ) on  November 19.
 
No real side effects as of Dec. 15 except dry skin and hair but getting quite 'porky' in the belt area even though now I go to the gym, three times a week. Also I dont have a need to shave anymore so now I can save my 'shaving' allowance and direct it to my stash of Depends !
 
Christmas Day got my first hot flashes. Thanks Santa!
 
Open surgery scheduled for Jan. 22 by Dr. J. Chen
 
Open surgery done on Jan. 20th. by Dr. J. Chin at London's University Hospital.
 
Cath removel scheduled for Feb. 8th. Yes, I know,
that will be 19 days. Dr. is out of country until then.
====================================
Pathology Report:
 
Gleason Score: cannot be determined due to hormone therapy effects. ???????
 
Extraprostatic Extension:
present, left radial, multifocal
present, left basal, multifocal
 
Resection Margins:
Apical: involved by invasive carcinoma, multifocal
Bladder Neck: involved by invasive carcinoma, unifocal on left side.Other: non-tumoural prostatic present at resection margin.
 
Perineural Invasion: present.
Seminal Vesicle Invasion: absent
Lymphovascular Invasion: absent
Lymph Node Status: no malignancy in regional lymph nodes
 
Additional path. findings:
high grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia
 
Pathology Stage: yp T3a NO MX
==================================
Radialogist appointment was on Friday Feb. 26 with Dr. Glenn Bauman in London.
 
Got another Lupron 90 day shot today and he wants to start IMRT soon. CT Scan plus measure scheduled in about 3 weeks. ( march 20)
 
First PSA test since surgery on March 25th.
 
Next appointment with the surgery Doc is April 13.
 
.


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 3/2/2010 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
My doctor would have said a giant no to that, so follow your own doctor's advice and common sense. when and if you start feeling some effects from radiation, i.e. fatigue,etc., I wouldn't be sure if you would be a safe. And trust me, I love motorcycles been riding them since about 12 years old. You are talking a real heavy bike at that, and you may find your reflex actions a bit dulled deep in your radiation treatments, so you may want to think that through. That's a long drive to get radiated. Good luck.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Caths #13 & #14 same time


JB71
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Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 206
   Posted 3/2/2010 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Purgatory: Like you, I  have been riding since 1953. Been involved in a lot of bike stuff including (at one time) owning Canada's largest aftermarket wholesale distribution. (Di-Jer International)

For some reason I googled myself today and this popped-up. It's an article in the 1960 (Yes, 50 years ago) in the American Motorcyclist Magazine, that I wrote. I was also the organizer of the event as well as founder of the Huron Trial Blazers MC, the event sponsor. (and YES, I still have the riding shirt, complete with Gypsy Tour pins and AMA membership pins.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=kvoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=%22jerry+ba

(Looks like you have to copy it and place it on the address bar.)
 
Scroll down to: First International Motorcycle Road-E-O
and there is even a picture of me when I was somewhat younger and no doubt, cancer free!

Regards,
Jerry.
.


Age, only 71.
 
July 2009, PSA 9.1, free ratio 0.16
September GLEASON 4+4=8, T2A
Prostate 44cc.
 
Calcium: 2.46  (range: 2.20 - 2.65 mmol/L)
25 Hydroxy Vitamin D: 102 (range: sufficiency:
76 - 250 nmol/L)
 
Bone Scan: Negative
CT Scan scheduled for Dec. 1st. Negative.
 
Started Casodex 50mg. on Nov. 6, first pill of 30.
Got Lupron 22.5mg ( 90 day ) on  November 19.
 
No real side effects as of Dec. 15 except dry skin and hair but getting quite 'porky' in the belt area even though now I go to the gym, three times a week. Also I dont have a need to shave anymore so now I can save my 'shaving' allowance and direct it to my stash of Depends !
 
Christmas Day got my first hot flashes. Thanks Santa!
 
Open surgery scheduled for Jan. 22 by Dr. J. Chen
 
Open surgery done on Jan. 20th. by Dr. J. Chin at London's University Hospital.
 
Cath removel scheduled for Feb. 8th. Yes, I know,
that will be 19 days. Dr. is out of country until then.
====================================
Pathology Report:
 
Gleason Score: cannot be determined due to hormone therapy effects. ???????
 
Extraprostatic Extension:
present, left radial, multifocal
present, left basal, multifocal
 
Resection Margins:
Apical: involved by invasive carcinoma, multifocal
Bladder Neck: involved by invasive carcinoma, unifocal on left side.Other: non-tumoural prostatic present at resection margin.
 
Perineural Invasion: present.
Seminal Vesicle Invasion: absent
Lymphovascular Invasion: absent
Lymph Node Status: no malignancy in regional lymph nodes
 
Additional path. findings:
high grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia
 
Pathology Stage: yp T3a NO MX
==================================
Radialogist appointment was on Friday Feb. 26 with Dr. Glenn Bauman in London.
 
Got another Lupron 90 day shot today and he wants to start IMRT soon. CT Scan plus measure scheduled in about 3 weeks. ( march 20)
 
First PSA test since surgery on March 25th.
 
Next appointment with the surgery Doc is April 13.
 
.

Post Edited (JB71) : 3/2/2010 3:36:48 PM (GMT-7)


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 3/2/2010 5:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Jerry, right now is one of the few times in my life without a bike. I had to sell my beautiful Triumph Sprint ST a couple of years ago. If I can ever get better and employed again, hoping to buy a new Speed Triple. Started with an Allstate 106cc, don't know if you remember those. Then Honda 305 Dream, 305 Scrambler, 175 Motorsport, one of the first Honda 750-4 in the US at the time, and a slew of others.

I wasnt trying to spoil your thought or dream above, just thinking about the healing/recovery side. I was given a brand new bicycle as a present last August, and havent been off a catheter long enough to even sit on it, let alone ride. Hoping that will change soon

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Caths #13 & #14 same time


English Alf
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Total Posts : 2218
   Posted 3/3/2010 4:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Jerry
Naaldwijk is only just down the road from me, about 7 miles away, but I've only driven through it a couple of times in the last 25 years that I've been living here as I never have any need to go in that direction. (It's all just acres and acres of glasshouses)

I haven't even been on the back of a motorbike for about 30 years (That was an old Suzuki 1100)

As for medical advice, most doctors I know just say don't ride bikes anyway: too dangerous at the best of times. Are your roads a lot safer for motorbikes?

(And I must either type really slowly or the internet must take a while to add my posts as when I typed my earlier post it was the first reply to your question.)

Alfred
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