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Runer
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Date Joined Feb 2010
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   Posted 3/2/2010 9:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I am 5 weeks post op. Dealing with the incontinence and ED most of us deal with.  I tried the pump for the first time yesterday.  Tried the battery operated one.  Didn't feel any suction.  Tried the manual pump and it worked great and very quickly.
 
The problem was that the plastic tube being suctioned into my groin hurt a bit. The rubber band was uncomfortable, even though I tried the largest size, and my erection was 1/2 of what it was pre op.  My questions are
 
1-- Do any of these things improve wih use, and
 
2---Do any of you have any tips for improving the benefits of the pump.'
 
Thank you
7/09---routine physical, 4.4 psa
11/5/09---diag: 1 out of 12 cores positive 3+3 Gleason
1/26/10 robotic prostatectomy. 3+3 Gleason, Clear margins
 


60Michael
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 2243
   Posted 3/2/2010 9:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Runer,
I never have tried them but others will liley give you feedback soon. Being only 5 weeks post-op you are doing quite well, and much better than myself. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Michael
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed
Robotic surgery 5/09 Atlanta, Ga
Catheter out after 10 days
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
Margin slightly involved
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
8/5 1 depend at night only, now none
 started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4, 6 1/2 month psa.5
Starting IMRT on 1/18/10
Great family and friends
Michael


Piano
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 847
   Posted 3/3/2010 5:28 AM (GMT -6)   
When you are just "exercising" there is no need for the rubber band at all, so I suggest leave it off. You will of course have to add it eventually when you try intercourse.

Some things you can try: trim your pubic hair and use some lubricant. This can vary from soap and water all the way up to KY Jelly and the like. This helps form a good seal, and may be what you were missing with the battery operated one.

I don't use lube at all, as I find it messy. Rather I pump a little, shake to unstick things from inside the tube, pump again, shake and so on. I have to press firmly at first to keep the seal, but as the erection progresses, the base of the shaft of my penis plugs up the tube and helps maintain the seal. For this to work, penis size and tube size have to be a good match.

If you use the pump every day, you will find improvements, but I have found it takes a lot of practice to find the methods that work reliably for intercourse -- and in fact I am still learning.
Pre-op:
Age 63 at diagnosis, now 64.
No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores.
Operation:
Non-nerve sparing RRP on 7 March 2008.
Two nights in hospital; catheter out after 7 days.
Post-op:
Continent; no pads needed from the get-go.
Pathology showed organ confined and negative margins. Gleason downgraded to 4+4=8.
PSAs:
6-week : <0.05
7-month: <0.05
13-month: 0.07 (start of a trend?)
19-month: 0.09 (maybe)
ED:
After a learning curve, Bimix injections (0.2ml) worked well. From 14 months, occasional nocturnal erections. Have "graduated" to just the pump.


Worried Guy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 3742
   Posted 3/3/2010 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Runer,
Welcome to HW.
I have a manual pump. I do it in the shower and use shaving cream to make the seal. I pump it up and let it sit while I brush my teeth. I then take it of and let things deflate - 30 seconds, and then repump again while shaving.

There is nothing erotic or pleasurable about it. Darn.
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (Try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day
2/26/10 7 months: Still 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05.

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