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Heavy Leaker
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   Posted 3/27/2010 7:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I am almost 5 months post surgery & still leaking quite a bit.  I am concerned about developing a fungus etc in the coming warmer months.  Right now my wife & I are in Florida and the temps are increasing.  On warm days, if I do a lot of walking etc, my cotton underwear gets wet from sweat & I'm sure wearing heavy pads doesn't help.  Has anyone found underwear that will wick the moisture away from me?  Thanks in advance for any help.
4 biopsies over 4 years starting in 2006, 4th biopsy showed 5% of one core Gleason 3+3=6.  PSA in 2005 6.0, rose to PSA 18 shortly before surgery.  Chose surgery over radiation due to conflicts in PSA versus biopsies.  PSA 18, Gleason 3+3+6, Age 58, Rising PSA since 1999, Biopsy 5% of one core
Robotic surgery 10/26/09  T2B Tumor 30% of prostate  involving left & right lobes  NOMX Gleason 3+4=7  Urethral Resection margins &  resection surface clean Seminal vessicles clean.


tatt2man
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   Posted 3/27/2010 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
there are some briefs used for skiers by the company I used to work for - by for Canadian market - did a google search for you and found one of many sites with moisture wicking clothing - have fun in the search - they have men's briefs and boxers , etc..

www.wickers.com/


hugs
BRONSON
.................
Age: 54 - gay - with spouse, Steve - 59
PSA: 04/2007- 1.68 - 08/2009 - 3.46 - 10/2009 - 3.86
Confirmation of Prostate Cancer: October 16, 2009 - 6 of 12 cancerous samples , Gleason 7 (4+3)
Doctor: Dr. Mohamed Elharram -Urologist / Surgeon - Peterborough Regional Health Centre
Radical Prostatectomy Operation: November 18, 2009 , home - November 21, 2009
Post Surgery Biopsy: pT3a- gleason 7 - extraprostatic extension - perineural invasion - prostate weight - 34.1gm -
ED Prescription: Jan 8/2010 - started daily 5mg cialis - girth back to normal -but not much length - will go for trimix in April when I see doc
Incontinence: 3-5 pads/1-2 clothes changes/day- finally seeing improvement - March 3, 2010 - week 14 after surgery -
location: Peteborough, Ontario, Canada
Post Surgery-PSA: to be announced - April 8, 2010
............


IDguy55
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Date Joined Mar 2010
Total Posts : 27
   Posted 3/27/2010 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   
You might take a look at these: http://www.exofficio.com/

They breathe well and if you are traveling you can wash them in a sink and they are dry in 2-3 hours.
Current Age 55, DX October 2005 PSA 50
Biopsy 11/15/2005 Gleason 4 + 3, High Grade PIN, Perineural Invasion, T2 NX MX Stage 2
Bone Scan Clear, CT Scan Negative
open RRP on 12/19/2005 Gleason changed to 3 + 4, Tumor estimated at 25% of prostate volume, Negative Margins,
Extensive Perineural Invasion, Lymph Nodes Clear, Catheter removed 1/3/2006 (holidays) Dry at night. moderate incontinence during the day.
1/25/2006 PSA .046, Moderate Incontinence
2/28/2006 PSA .027
6/22/2006 PSA .043 Just a little stress incontinence
9/08/2006 PSA .065
IMRT Start 10/12/2006 45 treatments 80 gy
1/4/2007 Almost Total Urinary Blockage, Cystoscopy performed, The next few days I had the Urinary tract of a teenager.
1/8/2007 Clogged up again, Catheter put back in. Removed myself (highly recommended) 7 days later No problems since with only occasional very mild stess incontinence since.
1/11/2007 PSA .03
7/26/2007 PSA .011
1/24/2008 PSA .027
5/22/2008 PSA .104
9/25/2008 PSA .383
2/17/2009 PSA 1.06
5/12/2009 PSA 1.5
8/25/2009 PSA 3.8 LHRH agonist (3 month Zoladex) started
11/24/2009 PSA .021
2/23/2010 PSA 0.99 another 3 month Zoladex


Worried Guy
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   Posted 3/27/2010 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Heavy,
I have been protecting the family jewels by alternating between with A+D zinc oxide cream and A + D petrolatum Ointment. I'll use one for two days and then switch to the other. I figure it keeps the fungi guessing.
Also I use my "pad in a pad" trick so I can easily change often and early.
Jeff (the leaking one)
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (Try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23. Did I waste 6 months?
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05.


Heavy Leaker
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Date Joined Feb 2010
Total Posts : 63
   Posted 3/27/2010 5:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Worried Guy said...
Heavy,
I have been protecting the family jewels by alternating between with A+D zinc oxide cream and A + D petrolatum Ointment. I'll use one for two days and then switch to the other. I figure it keeps the fungi guessing.
Also I use my "pad in a pad" trick so I can easily change often and early.
Jeff (the leaking one)

Jeff,
Please explain the pad in pad trick.  Is it simply putting one pad of the same type inside another one?  Right now I am using a barrier cream that I buy at Wal-Mart.  It seems to keep my legs protected but my cotton underwear gets soaked from sweat & does not dry out.  I think the heavy pad adds to the sweating.  I'll look at the A+D stuff.  Can you get it at most drug stores?
4 biopsies over 4 years starting in 2006, 4th biopsy showed 5% of one core Gleason 3+3=6.  PSA in 2005 6.0, rose to PSA 18 shortly before surgery.  Chose surgery over radiation due to conflicts in PSA versus biopsies.  PSA 18, Gleason 3+3+6, Age 58, Rising PSA since 1999, Biopsy 5% of one core
Robotic surgery 10/26/09  T2B Tumor 30% of prostate  involving left & right lobes  NOMX Gleason 3+4=7  Urethral Resection margins &  resection surface clean Seminal vessicles clean.


Heavy Leaker
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Date Joined Feb 2010
Total Posts : 63
   Posted 3/27/2010 5:59 PM (GMT -6)   
tatt2man said...
there are some briefs used for skiers by the company I used to work for - by for Canadian market - did a google search for you and found one of many sites with moisture wicking clothing - have fun in the search - they have men's briefs and boxers , etc..

www.wickers.com/


hugs
BRONSON

Bronson,  They seemed very expensive, are they effective in getting moisture away from your body while the underwear still stays dry?
4 biopsies over 4 years starting in 2006, 4th biopsy showed 5% of one core Gleason 3+3=6.  PSA in 2005 6.0, rose to PSA 18 shortly before surgery.  Chose surgery over radiation due to conflicts in PSA versus biopsies.  PSA 18, Gleason 3+3+6, Age 58, Rising PSA since 1999, Biopsy 5% of one core
Robotic surgery 10/26/09  T2B Tumor 30% of prostate  involving left & right lobes  NOMX Gleason 3+4=7  Urethral Resection margins &  resection surface clean Seminal vessicles clean.


tatt2man
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   Posted 3/27/2010 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   
you wear them as the underwear - we had several versions of it at the store in Canada - you wear their moisture wicking briefs as briefs with a pad/guard inside - it draws moisture away from your body to keep you dry and cool... their prices is on average the same as up here -

- have you had rashes and inflammation of skin due to your leaking?
- I have had a number of times I have wet the underwear and pants past the guard and had to change the whole kitt and caboodle - but no rashes or other skin problems
- if you have skin rubbing against skin that may be a problem - and the wicking clothing may be of benefit ... wicking clothing also comes in sweat pants and shirts and tops ...

What is your sodium/salt consumption like - I used to be a good salter but sweated like the dickens - now basically on a salt free diet and I don't sweat as much

Personally, I don't find the guards heavy at all - unless they are full and I have to change them ... for the most part they don't seem to be there half the time.
(forgive me, I cannot remember how many pads you go through a day - I am down to 3 a day with one at night)

One good way to protect yourself against fungal infections is keeping your health in good order - proper food and diet - healthy bacteria in your system (from yoghurt), and simple regular cleaning - nothing harsh - mild soap and water does the trick for me
- and if I have a heavy leaking day = I let the skin dry out by sitting buck naked on a towel or two while cruisin' the net.. before getting it back into the underwear and guard

all the best
BRONSON
.................
Age: 54 - gay - with spouse, Steve - 59
PSA: 04/2007- 1.68 - 08/2009 - 3.46 - 10/2009 - 3.86
Confirmation of Prostate Cancer: October 16, 2009 - 6 of 12 cancerous samples , Gleason 7 (4+3)
Doctor: Dr. Mohamed Elharram -Urologist / Surgeon - Peterborough Regional Health Centre
Radical Prostatectomy Operation: November 18, 2009 , home - November 21, 2009
Post Surgery Biopsy: pT3a- gleason 7 - extraprostatic extension - perineural invasion - prostate weight - 34.1gm -
ED Prescription: Jan 8/2010 - started daily 5mg cialis - girth back to normal -but not much length - will go for trimix in April when I see doc
Incontinence: 3-5 pads/1-2 clothes changes/day- finally seeing improvement - March 3, 2010 - week 14 after surgery -
location: Peteborough, Ontario, Canada
Post Surgery-PSA: to be announced - April 8, 2010
............

Post Edited (tatt2man) : 3/27/2010 7:07:29 PM (GMT-6)


Worried Guy
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   Posted 3/27/2010 11:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Heavy,

I buy my supplies at CVS Pharmacy. They sell everything I need ata reasonable price.
They have both kinds of ointment and cream for about $4.75.

Here's my "pad in pad" trick.
I buy briefs that are one size too small (BVD). I turn them inside out to make it easy to install the pads. First I put in a full size pad like a Men's guard or CVS Guards for Men extra absorbency Pack of 52 is $13, in a green package. For the insert I use CVS extra coverage protective pads, moderate absorbency, package of 60 for about $12, in a pink package. I cut that pad in half. and put it into the Guard pad so there is still about 1/2 inch of blue visible on the guard. I make sure all edges are extended and folded over the pad, so the absorbent material never touches the underwear. If it does, your underwear will get wet. That is unacceptable. The guard is bigger than the protective pad, PP, so it will catch anything that happens to slip by the PP if it gets over full.
I then cut a second and third pad in half for back up and stash them on in my shirt pocket, two in my pants pockets. one in my jacket, one inside the suit breast pocket, etc.
I change the half pads often and early. It is easily done in a toilet stall.
If I am home, at the end of the day ~8:00 PM, I take out the last full half pad and don't bother with a new one. I just let the guard fill up. Just before bed I shower, put in only a half pad in new underwear and shoot a puff of gold bond down my butt crack. I can usually make it through the night. The next morning I start over again.

(Any doc who considers incontinence is a minor discomfort need a head smack. )
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (Try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23. Did I waste 6 months?
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05.


Jstars
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Date Joined Oct 2005
Total Posts : 489
   Posted 3/28/2010 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Heavy,

I should have mentioned this sooner, but better late than never:

semper ubi sub ubi -- Always wear under wear.

Hey while finding that one I came across a few more that are appropriate for us:


For the Trimix injectors:
"Exegi monumentum aere perennius." (I have erected a monument more lasting than bronze. (Horace))


For the Caverject guys:
"Caveat Caverjectum" (Let the Caverjecter beware.)


What we all hope for:
"Erecta firma" (Solid ground!!)


And this is a must!
"Semper gumby" (Always flexible)


More trimix folks:
"Nos trimixuri te salutant!" "We who are about to Trimix salute you!"

Will move em over to the Jokes thread too.
Age 59, 57 at DX, PSA Aug2008 7 4 ... June2007 4.7 (BPH + LUTS)
11/2008 Biopsy: 1 of 12 cores 5%, Gleason 3+3 - Sona showed size 140+ cc (110 grams post op).
02/03/09 open RRP surgery ,Nerve sparing, 1 day in hospital.
02/18/09 Cath out -- passed 1 cm oblong bladder stone (not kidney!).
Pathology Report: All margins clear - No Invasive spread - no change in Gleason score.
03/06/09 Started Levitra@20mg / Viagra@100mg / (04/01) Cialis@20mg -- (some tumescence 02-03/2010).
04/01/09, 07/07/09, 10/01/09, 01/15/10 PSA <0.1
08/09-09/09,02-03/10 MUSE@1000mcg (very little ache ) 80-90%
10/09-11/09 TrimixGel@(500/300/100mcg): 60,70,80%,
02/10-03/10 TrimixGel@1000/300/100mcg - 80-90% - (with cialis) - just @ usefulness.

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