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logoslidat
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   Posted 4/2/2010 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
What do you all think? Is a positive attitude just a technique to make us feel good or can it really change the dynamics of this coward called pca.
I'm out for an early morning YES to the world, see you later!!
age 66 First psa 4/17/09 psa 8.3, 7/27/09 psa 8.1
8/12/09 biopsy 6 out of 12 pos 2-70%, rest <5% 3+3
10/19/09 open rrp U of W Medical Center, left bundle spared
10/30/09 catheter out. continent from the jump.
pathology- prostate confined, only thing positive was the report.everything else negative
9% of prostate affected. gleason 3+4, I suppose thats a negative
After reading pathology myself, gleason was 3+4 with tertiary 5, 2-3 foci That is a negative, but I am a positive !!
Ed an issue but keeping the blood flowing with the osbon pump
8 week psa 0,o

Hypocrisy is vice's homage to Virtue


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 4/2/2010 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm guessing you're not asking about the power of suggestion making cancer go away...
 
I try to be a Glass is Half FULL kind of guy whenever possible.
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


Sleepless09
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   Posted 4/2/2010 12:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting ......

I've recently read that a huge study on both prayer (as in others praying for you) and on positive thinking (as in keeping your thoughts positive) showed neither had any impact.

However, when I was headed for surgery a friend, Willie Sather, one of God's Saints on earth, put my name on their church prayer list and I can tell you for a fact it made a difference --- to me.

And, I can tell you when the story of my cancer went from being a good one, "it's just a test because your dad had PCa, at a 1.5 PSA there's no way you've got PCa," to doctors in hushed tones noting that a low PSA and positive biopsies can herald an aggressive cancer, I did my best to keep my attitude positive and it made a huge difference --- to me.

So, while for 100,000 people prayer and a positive mental attitude may be worth squat, when you come down to one person it makes a world of difference.

As for having a positive mental attitude --- PMA --- here's the way I see it. I tell people they have a choice. They're on an airplane, in a storm, a mountain looms ahead. The situation is dire. Do you want a pilot who A) runs through the cabin yelling, "we're all going to die! We're all going to die!" or B) Do you want a pilot at the controls who says to the co-pilot, "No sweat --- we've done this a 100 times in the simulator. Oh, by the way, you going to the ball game on Sunday?"

If nature, or an engine failure, whacks the plane, chances are both A and B pilots are going to auger in. But, I want the "B" pilot flying my plane. His/her ability to make decisions, good decisions, is greatly enhanced by a PMA and the calm, confident approach will enhance their skill level.

When it comes to pilots, or surgeons for that matter, I want a PMA type.

And, as a patient, I'm convinced that a PMA gives me the resources to make the best decisions and the gumption to follow through on living the best lifestyle I can to battle any PCa which may have been left behind.

I was at a seminar by Dr. Ken Cooper way back when he was first introducing Aaerobics (title of his 1968 book) and he said, "I can't promise to add years to your life, but I can promise to add life to your years." A good quote for PMA too.

Gung ho to all,

Sheldon AkA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
From "knock out" to wake up in recovery less than two hours.  Actual surgery 70 minutes
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
First post op PSA Sept 09  less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23 test again less than 0.02
PSA on Jan 8 less than 0.02  
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues.
Oct 31st padless 24/7 
Feel free to email me at:  sheldonprostate@yahoo.com    


Casey59
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   Posted 4/2/2010 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
logoslidat said...
What do you all think? Is a positive attitude just a technique to make us feel good or can it really change the dynamics of this coward called pca.
I'm out for an early morning YES to the world, see you later!!

 
"...an early morning YES to the world..."  That sounds great!  Just curious, what form does your "YES to the world" take?
 
 
While your question was specifically related to "positive attitude", I would like to respond to the request you issued "What do you all think?" by commenting (perhaps largely for the benefit of newcomers) on a closely related topic of stress reduction benefits.  Newcomers are often focused more narrowly and urgently on forms of aggressive treatment that they quickly overlook the value of stress reduction (and other lifestyle changes of diet and exercise).  Many of those of us who have been around a little longer have absorbed these tactics into our lives, although some guys simply have been unable to overcome the "inertia" in their lives to make the lifestyle changes even when confronted with evidence of their benefit.
 
In simple science terms, your immune system is like a guard ready to defend your body from attacks of pathogens and for prevention of cancer cells.  Cortisol, the "stress hormone", if produced in large amounts, harms your immune system.  In other words, if you want to help fuel any cancer, elevate your stress levels!
 
In fact, if you want to promote prostate cancer development or progression, here's a list of "to-do's" I've seen published:  eat lots of red meat and pork; drink lots of dairy products and chow down on cheese; cut way down on vegetables and fruit; don't exercise, aim for a high stress lifestyle, and stay away from fish, tomato products, vitamin D, pomegranate in any form, green tea, vitamin E, selenium and certain other nutritional items and supplements.
 
Well, I digressed into the negative...back to the positive.  There has been a lot of research into prostate cancer and environmental issues and our lifestyle choices (nuitrition, diet, exercise and stress)...look at pubmed.com.  Much of the research looks at these in combination, but there is a powerful body of knowledge that exists.
 
Dr Charles "Snuffy" Myers, a highly regarded prostate cancer specialist (and himself a survivor of an aggressive case of PC), has published a "Comprehensive Management of Prostate Cancer" document which specifically calls out "Stress and Its Management" as an important element for comprehensive prostate cancer care.  Myers writes:

"I think you would be foolish to depend on surgery or radiation therapy as the sole tool to combat prostate cancer. As you will see, a combination of sensible diet and stress management has already been reported to slow the growth of prostate cancer from a median doubling time of 6.5 months to 17.7 months...

You need to put in place a program that will slow or even prevent late recurrence of this cancer. This becomes even more prudent when you realize that the same program that makes sense for prostate cancer has proven benefits for the prevention and management of hypertension and atherosclerosis."

Wise words.  In fact, I think his "Comprehensive Management of Prostate Cancer" document is an important "must-read" for all PC patients.  Here's a link:   http://www.yananow.net/MyersManagement.pdf
 
Anyhow, logoslidat, positive attitude and stress reduction are not exactly the same thing, but I believe they are closely related, and enough supporting research has been done for me to recognize their benefit. 
 
"YES to the world!"   I like it!
 
 

don826
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   Posted 4/2/2010 2:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Logo,
 
Personally I believe a positive attitude improves just about any situation. Positive not pollyanish. As Sheldon noted earlier "give up and die" probably is not going to help. A positive attitude will not change the fact that one has a deadly disease. But it will change how one deals with that disease and I believe ones quality of life and relationships.
 
Sheldon also noted the power of prayer. While I am not myself that sure of prayer as a treatment I have family members who believe strongly in it. So for the peace of mind of my family and perhaps my own sake I accept thier prayers and especially the love with which they are offerred.
 
Interesting post. I like things that provoke thought at a level of more than what to have for lunch.
 
Regards,
Don
Diagnosed 04/10/08 Age 58 at the time
Gleason 4 + 3

DRE palpable tumor on left side

100% of 12 cores positive for PCa range 35% to 85%

Bone scan clear and chest x ray clear

CT scan shows potential lymph node involvement in pelvic region

Started Casodex on May 2 and stopped on June 1, 2008

Lupron injection on May 15 and every four months for next two years

Started IMRT/IGRT on July 10, 2008. 45 treatments scheduled

First 25 to be full pelvic for a total dose of 45 Gray to lymph nodes.

Last 20 to prostate only. Total dose to prostate 81 Gray.

Completed IMRT/IGRT 09/11/08.

PSA 02/08 21.5 at diagnosis

PSA 07/08 .82 after 8 wks of hormones

PSA 10/08 .642 one month after completion of IMRT, 6 months hormone

PSA 03/09 .38 six months post radiation and nine months into hormones

PSA 06/09 .36 or .30 depending on who did the test

PSA 09/09 .33 one year after IMRT and 16 months into hormone
PSA 03/10 .32 18 months after IMRT Still on hormones


Purgatory
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   Posted 4/2/2010 3:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Cancer is cancer, once its in your body, thinking good thoughts or bad toughts isn't going to change the physical nature of it. Of course it's better to have a positive attitude in life, but I think a person is only fooling themeslves if they think their attitude is going to change it.

My radiation oncologist had a talk with me about why people take supplements and so forth, and it came down to that most people, men in particular, with cancers, don't like feeling like that they are not in control of it. So they do things, and invent things, to make them think they have some control over their cancers. Her attitude was that if it made them feel good about their situation, then its not going to hurt ,but if they really thought it would control or lessen their cancer, they were only fooling themselves.

As a nurse, my wife works a lot with the long-term elderly and the re-hab elderly, and she would testify, they lose good patients all the time that had wonderful faith, family, and positive attitudes, and they die off quickly of whatever ails them, just as she has patients that are in terrible health situations with hateful attitutudes, negative about everything in life, no support from family, yet they live on year after year after year.

The point to me, is that any cancer is a real disease, and each person's body reacts differently to it, look how much we see of that here among just us here at HW. Once the cow is out of the barn, or cancer in this case, all the wishful thinking and after the fact lifestyle changes arent going to change the dynamics of having cancer. It will still be a person by person battle and journey. Just my take.

Faith helps, certainly doesn't hurt, and a true miracle can sometimes happen to a person, but it kind of like banking on the Powerball to get rid of your debts, it might happen, but probably won't. So it leaves us learning about our disease/cancer, and trying to make the right decisions in treating and living with it, and after finding good doctors if you are fortunate, being compliant to their care.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14 out - 27 days, Cath #15 - 3/29


goodlife
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   Posted 4/2/2010 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
All diseases are multi-faceted.  They have a physical effect and an emotional/mental effect.  The physcal effects can be magnified by the emotional/mental effect. 
 
I find myself imagining pains, symptoms, and other physical things that may or may not be real, as far as being related to the PC or the treatment.  If I am depressed, sitting around waiting to die, these things become more real, and we get more depressed.
 
On the other hand, if I am up and about, doing things, meeting people, helping people, playing with my grandkids, etc., these symptoms mysteriously dissappear. Miracles, probably not.  My attitiude having an effect on my physical symptoms, I believe so.
 
My spiritual life can have the same effect on these symptoms as well, real or imagined.  Just getting out of bed on Sunday and going to church leaves me less time to worry about my problems.
 
At some time, if my PC progresses, my physical issues will undoubtedly catch up, but every day  I can live normally, because of a good attitude, is a gift to me .  Once my physical symptoms overcomes my emotional/mental ones, life as I have known it will be at a standstill.
Goodlife
 
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01


Ziggy9
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   Posted 4/2/2010 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Back in the mid 1970s the Denver Broncos had a Dale Carnegie graduate as their head coach. He was positive about everything. So much so that he had his players ridiculing his words in the locker room, thus forcing the owner to replace him with a more down to earth realistic head coach who immediately took them to their first Superbowl.

If positive thinking makes you feel better fine but so would a strong evening martini.

Post Edited (realziggy) : 4/2/2010 2:53:39 PM (GMT-6)


skeener
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   Posted 4/2/2010 4:40 PM (GMT -6)   

Certainly very interesting posts to a simple question.

I am greatly affected by the weather and with this beautiful Easter weekend I am so darn positive it's ridiculous.

Goodbye winter -- hello summer (forget spring!!)

Skeener


Age:  63 
Biopsy: May 09 showed 2 of 12 cores positive for prostate cancer -- 1 at 5% and 1 at 25%.  Cancer indicated as non aggressive.  Gleason Score: 3+3.
RRP on Oct 23/09 in London, Ontario.  Excellent surgeon. 
7 Weeks Post Op -  The fears I had about bad things about the operation and recovery did not materialise except of course ED!!.  Otherwise, everything went very smoothly.  Incontinence not a problem.  Wear a pad when out just in case. Pain was never a problem.
Pathology:  Unremarkable 
First followup PSA and Visit: Feb 11/10 - 0.0.
 
Next PSA May
Next doctor's visit in 6 months      


Purgatory
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   Posted 4/2/2010 6:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, spring seemed to have skipped western SC here too. Was 88 degrees today, way way above normal, had to crank up the AC in the house, something not use to doing in early April.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14 out - 27 days, Cath #15 - 3/29


logoslidat
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   Posted 4/2/2010 10:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Greetings Gents, Wow , that was fun and enlightening, I've been gone all day doing dis and dat, but yeah, Wow!!!! To Casy59, my yes to the world each day is running. Its good to overcome the negative, In this case gravity, with your mind and your will. Its such an allegory to life. But it could be as simple as smiling to every person you wish to make eye contact with. Or simply SAYING yes to the world. I would have to write a book to answer everyone. I kinda lazy too! Personally I do believe we can change the dynamics with things other than the accepted treatments the medical world have to offer. Purg , I have to respectfully disagree with you on the control point. Its not just trying to feel like you have control, but having it, even if that just means getting a medical team together. The point of stress reduction, to me, is smack on. Im not sure if it[ stress ], is not the biggest contributor to cancer. Gosh somethings making it happen. the word is dis ease! Charlie Rose had a panel of nuerosurgeons, nuerologistsdoctors of different stripes on once, discussing Physical changes on a cellular level,affected by our mind. The thrust of this group was to find out just this point. Do our attitudes, stress levels, etc actually change us physically at the microscopic levels. There research indicates it may to the point that they continue to research it. I wish I was more of an organized person and not kinda lazy, to back this up with statistics, date ,times , etc . Im just a guy that likes to read, watch interesting tv , have meaningful dialouges, lidat. Any way nuff of that. Godspeed and y'all have a great, DaKine, weekend.
age 66 First psa 4/17/09 psa 8.3, 7/27/09 psa 8.1
8/12/09 biopsy 6 out of 12 pos 2-70%, rest <5% 3+3
10/19/09 open rrp U of W Medical Center, left bundle spared
10/30/09 catheter out. continent from the jump.
pathology- prostate confined, only thing positive was the report.everything else negative
9% of prostate affected. gleason 3+4, I suppose thats a negative
After reading pathology myself, gleason was 3+4 with tertiary 5, 2-3 foci That is a negative, but I am a positive !!
Ed an issue but keeping the blood flowing with the osbon pump
8 week psa 0,o

Hypocrisy is vice's homage to Virtue


BB_Fan
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   Posted 4/2/2010 11:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I have to agree with Dave in that positive attitude has no effect on PCa. However, stress can have physical effects that could negitively affect PCa growth. Also, I firmly believe, and there are studies that support the fact, that there are things that you ingest that promote the growth of PCa and things that inhibit the growth of PCa. To suggest that diet or suppliments have no efffect on the progession of the PCa is inaccurate.
Dx with PC Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4, Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4)

Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive
nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery

One night in hospital, back to work in 3 weeks

psa Junl 09 <.01
psa Oct 09 <.01
psa Jan 10 .07 re-test one week later .05
psa Mar 10 .28


t-dog
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   Posted 4/2/2010 11:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I can tell you one thing, when i lost my mom my dad was in good shape and had plenty of years left in him. But life for him was done after 60 years with this woman and he simply gave up on life and died 5 months later. Positve thinking and such may be of no benefit but willpower and spirit sure nuff are.
Dx at 50 in 12/09 Merry Christmas its cancer....
3 of 12 positive, right side only, psa at dx 2.6 free%14
gleason 3+3=6
routine physical, no symptoms
Da Vinci performed Feb 2k10 by Dr Marc Milsten [hes got mad skills]
99% continent from cath out, mr happy fully functional at 2 weeks out!
path showed same gleeson with no other blips other than one slight margin, organ confined 20% right, 5%left, 34grams
 
 


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 4/3/2010 4:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm a real big fan on the "power of suggestion." I'm the type of guy that starts feeling better sitting in the waiting room at the doc or dentist office. Many a nurse has had to pinch me (which can be fun depending on who's doing the pinching) to get my blood pressure up.
 
P-O-Suggest is what helped me quit smoking.
 
On the downside, I once had a dentist ask me if chewing gum gave me headaches. He said that the way my crooked/out of alingment molars are, he guessed that repeated chewing would cause headaches. I quit chewing gum for years... 
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


English Alf
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   Posted 4/3/2010 5:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I do not think for one minute that what I think in my brain can alter what happens to a cancer cell in my abdomen.
But I definitely feel that what's going on in my brain can affect my general health, and must therefore matter, as the better my general health is the better.
To put it simply if I worry too much it could turn into real depression or real stress problems for my heart, my blood pressure etc which would not be good even if I didn't have PCa.
Prayer, good wishes, hugs, smiles, greetings cards, letters, boxes of chocolates, phone-calls etc are all manifestations of my support network and part of having a good relationship with people around me, which also helps as it means that I know that if I have any problems it means that I know that there are people I can turn to.
If positive thoughts, laughter etc actually make you produce the right chemicals in your brain such as endorphines etc, then they might actually help with reducing pain etc, which doesn't cure the cancer but makes it easier to cope with.

Happy Easter to All from Holland

Alfred
Age at Dx 48 No Family history of Prostate Cancer
Married 25 years, and I cannot thank my wife enough for her support.
April 2009: PSA 8.6 DRE: negative. Tumour in 2 out of 12 cores. Gleason 3+3.
RALP (nerve-sparing) at AVL-NKI Hospital Amsterdam on 29th July 2009. Stay 1 night.
Partial erections on while catheter still in. Catheter out on 6th Aug 2009.
Dry at night after catheter came out
Post-op Gleason 3+4. Tumour mainly in left near neck of bladder.
Left Seminal Vesicle invaded, (=T3b!)
no perineraul invasion, no vascular invasion. clear margins,
Erection 100% on 15th Aug 2009, but lots of leaking
Stopped wearing pads on 21st Sept 2009
Pre-op style intercourse on 24th Oct 2009 !! No use of tablets, jabs, VED etc.
Nov 17th 2009 PSA = 0.1
Mar 17th 2010 PSA = 0.4!!! referred to radiation therapist


jacketch
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   Posted 4/3/2010 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
When I have a positive attitude I tend to take better care of myself than when I am stressed out and thinking negative and have a "don't give a crap" attitude. I think this is one of the most important aspects of attitude for me and one that could certainly affect my general health and my prostate removal recovery in particular.
63 yo
V10.46 Dx Feb-09

RRP 5-5-09

No adverse SE

PSA 6-19-09 -0-

PSA 9-21-09 -0-



Thriving, not just surviving!


deer hunter
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   Posted 4/4/2010 8:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I agreewith Goodlife everyday is a new day in the playbook of life and we should make the best of each day of our life and live it to the fullist. I try my best because I was able to get up and out of bed so I try to make it the best day I can and live life the best way I know how
DEERHUNTER
dx age 57 01/06 open RP 4/06 psa in 01/06 8.1  surgery path report Gleason 3+4=7 poorly differentiated  tumor was 90%involved in both lobes surgical margins postive. in the right apex and right radial margins tumor grade G3  perineural invasion present high grade of PIN found  T2c NX MX PSA 0706  .01 10/06 .02 01/07 .03 04/07 .04  06/07 .05  07/07 .08 07/07 bone scans pelvic ct neg. 08/07 proscintic scan neg.9/07 psa.10 net with rad onc. wanted to do SRT but i did not do it 10/07  saw a new dr at Emory University [my old dr urg. suggested second opinion ]  bone scans negs ct scans pelvics neg. biopies of the bladder and adrinal glands neg.another proscintic scan neg.12/07 Psa .11 clinial trial Emory injected with protons to try and find the cancer cells no luck 3/08 psa .17 06/08 psa .23 psa 09/08 psa .32 12/08 psa .39 3/09 psa .39 6/09 psa .43  meet with medical onc. he said  i might have waited to long to start SRT 7/09 psa .50  another bone scan ct scan all neg.MRI neg. meet rad. psa the last of 7/09was .55 onc. 7/09 started casdex 50mg 1 day for 30 days 2 shots of lupron started rad treament 10/09 40 treatments 75 gm 12 shots each time all aroud pelvic finished 12/09  psa .07 and psa 01/10.05 next dr visit 03/10 wait and see 3/10 psa.05

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