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t-dog
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   Posted 4/2/2010 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
HOLY MACAROON!!!!!! folks this deal hurts, much worse than robot but had to do it. Took about 40 minutes, really got the shoulder blade pain this time. Oh well, onward! Tim
Dx at 50 in 12/09 Merry Christmas its cancer....
3 of 12 positive, right side only, psa at dx 2.6 free%14
gleason 3+3=6
routine physical, no symptoms
Da Vinci performed Feb 2k10 by Dr Marc Milsten [hes got mad skills]
99% continent from cath out, mr happy fully functional at 2 weeks out!
path showed same gleeson with no other blips other than one slight margin, organ confined 20% right, 5%left, 34grams
 
 


James C.
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   Posted 4/2/2010 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
onward and upward. The pain should ease, the belly should heal and life contnues, hopefully with more function and less painful. Congrats on completing it..
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6cX61oNsRQ&feature=channel
4/07: PSA 7.6, Recheck after 4 weeks Cipro-6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% invloved, left lobe, GS3+3=6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RRP, 110gms, Path Report- Stg. pT2c, 10 gms., margins clear
32 Months: PSA's .04 each test since surgery, ED continues: Bimix- .3ml PRN, Trimix- .15ml PRN


Purgatory
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   Posted 4/2/2010 5:30 PM (GMT -6)   
tdog,

good going, glad you got that behind you. hope you heal fast, make sure you use your pain meds, no need to suffer
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14 out - 27 days, Cath #15 - 3/29


Burlcodad
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   Posted 4/2/2010 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Tim
You had such a good experience with the robot that you wanted to have more operation fun???
 
Glad you are on the raod to recovery
 
Ray
Diagnosed 9/09 at age 54  
PSA 6/09 1.3
Stage 2b (biopsy done because of firmness felt on right side) 3 positive cores out of 12 (all less than 25%) Gleason 6
 
Surgery  1/13/10 at UP- Penn Presbyterian - Dr David Lee. Home 1/14/10 Nerves spared on both sides -Catheter removed 1/19/10  Path report scheduled for 2/11/10
 
Pathology Report Gleason score was upgraded to 7 (3+4)
no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins, gland involvement 2-10%
 
Since report was good and recovery going well next appt is now  the first psa test appt scheduled for 4/22
 
Incontinence - Initial 6 pads a day, 3 Weeks - 3 pads a day relatively dry at night
 
ED - yes but seeing some improvements - levitra 10 mg 2x week
 
 


tatt2man
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   Posted 4/2/2010 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Tim -
-here's to a boring spring for you - no more openings - just plenty of healing time - and hopefully , (when is your next psa due?) a lifetime of zero's.
hugs
BRONSON
.................
Age: 54 - gay - with common-law spouse of 13 years, Steve - 59
PSA: 04/2007- 1.68 - 08/2009 - 3.46 - 10/2009 - 3.86
Confirmation of Prostate Cancer: October 16, 2009 - 6 of 12 cancerous samples , Gleason 7 (4+3)
Doctor: Dr. Mohamed Elharram -Urologist / Surgeon - Peterborough Regional Health Centre
Radical Prostatectomy Operation: November 18, 2009 , home - November 21, 2009
Post Surgery Biopsy: pT3a- gleason 7 - extraprostatic extension - perineural invasion - prostate weight - 34.1gm -
ED Prescription: Jan 8/2010 - started daily 5mg cialis - girth back to normal -but not much length - will go for trimix in April when I see doc
Incontinence: Feb 2010- 3-5 pads/1-2 clothes changes/day- March 3, 2010 - week 14 after surgery -finally seeing improvement - March 29- incontinence better - 1-2 pads a day - one pad at night
location: Peteborough, Ontario, Canada
Post Surgery-PSA: to be announced - April 8, 2010
............


Worried Guy
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   Posted 4/2/2010 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Tim,

I'm proud of you. You're on the mend. You can toss the duct tape.
(And you now have a great excuse to not work in the garden.)

Enjoy,
Jeff

Did you get the mesh with titanium staples? "We can make him better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster." - Six million Dollar Man, 1974
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (Try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23. Did I waste 6 months?
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05.


zoot1
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   Posted 4/2/2010 7:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm right behind you, T! Double hernia on Monday, my expectation is being much more comfortable than the LAST time I left the OR...
>52 years old, dad had PC at 72 (now 84 and going strong), he was treated with seed implants and radiation with great success.
>4.1 PSA at annual physical, 7/09/09.
>Visit to urologist, second PSA of 4.7.
>Biopsy, 8/19, back to urologist 8/24 to hear the awesome
news that a prostatectomy is recommended. Homework done (with RN wife),
RRP on 9/24.
>Uneventful surgery, except for a UTI and H1N1 virus, which set my recovery back a bit. No cancer involvement beyond the prostate, nerves not spared.
>I am now 5 months post-op, third PSA at zero, and have been continent for two months. I started acupuncture therapy at about 6 weeks; no concrete evidence that it worked, but I expected incontinence to go on for a few more months. I'll give the acupuncturist partial credit...
>ED basically what it was before this whole mess. Not good.


Purgatory
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   Posted 4/2/2010 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
zoot,

good luck on your upcoming surgery on monday, hope it goes smooth for you, and you dont have to deal with a lot of pain.
keep us posted.

david in sc
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14 out - 27 days, Cath #15 - 3/29


skeener
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   Posted 4/2/2010 8:01 PM (GMT -6)   
T-dog
 
Onward and upward!!
 
Glad the hernia is fixed. 
 
Now you can rest and recuperate and enjoy this nice weather!!
 
Skeener
Age:  63 
Biopsy: May 09 showed 2 of 12 cores positive for prostate cancer -- 1 at 5% and 1 at 25%.  Cancer indicated as non aggressive.  Gleason Score: 3+3.
RRP on Oct 23/09 in London, Ontario.  Excellent surgeon. 
7 Weeks Post Op -  The fears I had about bad things about the operation and recovery did not materialise except of course ED!!.  Otherwise, everything went very smoothly.  Incontinence not a problem.  Wear a pad when out just in case. Pain was never a problem.
Pathology:  Unremarkable 
First followup PSA and Visit: Feb 11/10 - 0.0.
 
Next PSA May
Next doctor's visit in 6 months      


Sleepless09
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   Posted 4/2/2010 8:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Tim, sorry to hear that it's hurting --- get on those pain meds! But, glad to hear it's history and from here on it's just a case of a few days to mend.

Zoot, best wishes for success with your repair.

Sheldon AKA Sleepless (who is powerful glad his hernia repair didn't hurt too much as he's a real whooose when it comes to hurting)
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
From "knock out" to wake up in recovery less than two hours.  Actual surgery 70 minutes
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
First post op PSA Sept 09  less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23 test again less than 0.02
PSA on Jan 8 less than 0.02  
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues.
Oct 31st padless 24/7 
Feel free to email me at:  sheldonprostate@yahoo.com    


t-dog
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   Posted 4/2/2010 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks guys, did get the mesh and staples as far as i know. really the worst is the gas pain in the shoulders, i didnt get that last time but this is terrible, any advise to help get rid of it? thanks tim
Dx at 50 in 12/09 Merry Christmas its cancer....
3 of 12 positive, right side only, psa at dx 2.6 free%14
gleason 3+3=6
routine physical, no symptoms
Da Vinci performed Feb 2k10 by Dr Marc Milsten [hes got mad skills]
99% continent from cath out, mr happy fully functional at 2 weeks out!
path showed same gleeson with no other blips other than one slight margin, organ confined 20% right, 5%left, 34grams
 
 


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 4/3/2010 3:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Was you hernia in the belly or groin? Mine was in the belly. I was a smoker before and after surgery. One little bitty little smokers cough would all but bring me to tears the few several days after surgeryidea  But it does get better.
 
I have a real hard thinking about a few guys here that did both surgeries the same day => OUCH.
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


Worried Guy
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   Posted 4/3/2010 4:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Tim,

Wait til your first BM ! Yikes! I rolled up a towel and shoved it against my abdomen. It helped a lot.
Good Luck,
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (Try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23. Did I waste 6 months?
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05.


compiler
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   Posted 4/3/2010 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   

t-Dog:

 

Oh, regarding that gas pain in your shoulders, I understand there is a new robotic surgical procedure that will help with that.

 

Mel (a belated April 1st)


63 years old . PSA-- 3/08--2.90; 8/09--4.01; 11/09--4.19 (Free PSA 24%),  after 45 days on cipro! DREs have always been normal. PCA-3 was about 75 (way above the 35 threshold). That led to:

Biopsy on 11/30/09. 5 out of 12 cores positive. Gleason 4+3. 2 cores were 3+3 (one 5% and the other 30%) on one side. On  other side:2 cores are 4+3 (5%)--1 core 3+4 (30%) no peri-neural invasion. prostate is 45 grams. Stage: T1C.  

Surgery with Dr. Menon at Ford Hospital, 1/26/10. He says all looked good. Spared nerves. Unfortunately: Pathology Report: G 4+3 (65%-35%). Cancer in 15% of gland. Lymph Nodes: Clear.  Perineural Invasion: yes. Seminal Vessical Involvement: No.  Extraprostatic Extension: yes.  Positive Margin: Yes-- focal-- 1 spot .5mm. Final Weight is 52.7 gms.  (Second opinion from Jon Epstein at Hopkins confirmed these results)

 Incontinence: joined that club-- definite leaks—1 pad/day. Night is dry, was  using 1 pad at night for security, but pretty much dispensed with that most nights. Update: no pads at night. No pads while at home, but still very uncomfortable. Use 1 pad for out-of-house activities. Suddenly got MUCH better on 3/10/10, almost overnight. Still some urgency but no pads about 90% of the time.  As of 3/12/10--completely continent! Uh...OH. As of about 3/16/10 problems with constant urgency although no pads needed--feels like an infection but none showing in urine.

First post-op PSA on 3/10/10--DRUM ROLL: 0.01 Next PSA in mid-June.


zoot1
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   Posted 4/6/2010 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I was in the OR by 8:10, home by 11:15. Piece of cake. Some pain for sure, but I'd do forty of these before another RRP!
A hundred forty maybe.
Thanks for the well wishes, back to work tomorrow!
>52 years old, dad had PC at 72 (now 84 and going strong), he was treated with seed implants and radiation with great success.
>4.1 PSA at annual physical, 7/09/09.
>Visit to urologist, second PSA of 4.7.
>Biopsy, 8/19, back to urologist 8/24 to hear the awesome
news that a prostatectomy is recommended. Homework done (with RN wife),
RRP on 9/24.
>Uneventful surgery, except for a UTI and H1N1 virus, which set my recovery back a bit. No cancer involvement beyond the prostate, nerves not spared.
>I am now 5 months post-op, third PSA at zero, and have been continent for two months. I started acupuncture therapy at about 6 weeks; no concrete evidence that it worked, but I expected incontinence to go on for a few more months. I'll give the acupuncturist partial credit...
>ED basically what it was before this whole mess. Not good.


t-dog
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Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 154
   Posted 4/6/2010 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Right on zoot, glad it went well. Mine was in my groin on the right side, still really tender but improving, watch the bm`s they`ll get your attention!
Dx at 50 in 12/09 Merry Christmas its cancer....
3 of 12 positive, right side only, psa at dx 2.6 free%14
gleason 3+3=6
routine physical, no symptoms
Da Vinci performed Feb 2k10 by Dr Marc Milsten [hes got mad skills]
99% continent from cath out, mr happy fully functional at 2 weeks out!
path showed same gleeson with no other blips other than one slight margin, organ confined 20% right, 5%left, 34grams
Hernia repair Mar 2k10, hernia was side effect of the surgery
 


keysailfisher
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   Posted 4/6/2010 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Glad both of you are doing better.
 
Neal
age 45
psa 3.09
Biopsy results 12/9
Left side base 3+3=6 21% 2/2 cores positive
Left side mid  3+3=6 100% 2/2 cores positive
Left side apex 3+4=7 88% 2/2 cores positive
Right side - 0/6
CT & Bone scan negative
Davinci Feb. 5th 2010/ cath removal 2/16
 
Gleason-3+4=7
Extent of tumor-Bilateral
Extraprostatic Extension-Absent
Seminal Vesicles-Negative for tumor
Surgical Margins-Rt apical margin focally positive
lymphovascular invasion-Suspicious in areas of capsular involvement
Regional lymph nodes-One node negative
Stage-T2c NO Mx
Incontinence-yes/ Down to 1 pad at 6 weeks out
PSA 3/29/10 <0.01


zoot1
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   Posted 4/7/2010 5:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, guys. Giving work a try tomorrow, we'll see how it goes.
>52 years old, dad had PC at 72 (now 84 and going strong), he was treated with seed implants and radiation with great success.
>4.1 PSA at annual physical, 7/09/09.
>Visit to urologist, second PSA of 4.7.
>Biopsy, 8/19, back to urologist 8/24 to hear the awesome
news that a prostatectomy is recommended. Homework done (with RN wife),
RRP on 9/24.
>Uneventful surgery, except for a UTI and H1N1 virus, which set my recovery back a bit. No cancer involvement beyond the prostate, nerves not spared.
>I am now 5 months post-op, third PSA at zero, and have been continent for two months. I started acupuncture therapy at about 6 weeks; no concrete evidence that it worked, but I expected incontinence to go on for a few more months. I'll give the acupuncturist partial credit...
>ED basically what it was before this whole mess. Not good.

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