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   Posted 4/19/2010 3:43 PM (GMT -6)   
My Good Friends
  So this is the otherside?   Met Mr. Da Vinci, Wed. AM and left the hospital Thur. afternoon. The cath. is a drag an I'm a little sore but I can not believe how good I feel.
  Doc. called Friday, said no positive margins and my gleason stayed the same, so at this space an time I'm feelin real good.
Cath. does not come out till next Monday[12 days] small price to pay, guess my blatter stem was a little thin.
Thanks for all the pre. surgery Posts, they played a big part in getting me to the Hospital Wed. morning.  Tim
PSA> 6.58
Gleason 7
8 of 12 cores pos. 2/1
Robot 4/14

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   Posted 4/19/2010 4:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Timm,  Welcome to the other side.  Hope your recovery is quick and uneventful.  Look forward to seeing you in the Zero club soon.
All the best,
Dx PCa age 54. Jly 05- PSA 8.1 Sept 05- PSA 10.7
Sept 05- Biopsy  9 of 12 cancerous, Gleason 3+3=6, T2
Bone scan and cat scan showed hot spot on hip bone.
Oct 05- bone biopsy, ouch.  benign , no cancer in bones.
Nov 05- PSA 15.4 Nov 18, 05- Nerve sparing open RP at Huntsman Cancer Center, by Dr. Robert Stevenson. 100% continence at 3 months. ED- Tried the big 3 pills with no results. Feb 06-Started VED, worked, but painful with constriction rings. May 06 started Trimix injections.
ED appears to be perminant but doing great with Trimix.
PSA remains undetectable.

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   Posted 4/19/2010 4:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Timm, welcome to the other side. The bright side and bright future ahead. Here's hoping that you have a non-event recovery. Don't forget to pick up the cath bag when you move around.

I guarantee that you will only forget it ONE TIME. But that one time is enough.

60 years old when diagnosed
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
Diagnosis confirmed July 9, 2009
12 Needle Biopsy = 9 clear , 3 postive
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 in all positive cores
da Vinci 9/17/09
Post Surgery Pathology: GS 4+3=7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
positive margin, extra-prostatic extension
30 day PSA 0.4, 50 day psa 0.53, 64 day psa 0.6
IMRT completed 1/15/10 35 treatments- 70Gy

2/24/10 FIRST POST RAD PSA 1.0---CARRRP --waiting for the next test.
3/22/10 Second Post RAD PSA 1.5 Dammmmnnn stubborn son of a gun

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   Posted 4/19/2010 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Tim, great going. Glad to hear you safe on the other side. That little bit extra of cath time will help that delicate bladder neck-urethra healing area, hopefully will make you go dry quicker too. So hang in there. The whole gang is rooting for you back here.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14 out - 27 days, Cath #15 - 3/29

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   Posted 4/19/2010 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
That is awesome news. Congrats on having such an easy journey to the other side. I hope that it continues to be a breeze.
Stick with us and come us posted as to how you are doing.

peace to you
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 47 (current)

My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes (3 positive) was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11

PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .016
PSA Mar 30th, 2009 is .02
PSA July 28th 2009 is .01
PSA OCt 15th 2009 is .11
PSA Jan 15th 2010 is .13

Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May

T level dropped to 37 Mar 30th, 2009
cancer in 4 of 6 cores

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   Posted 4/19/2010 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Good deal. Ms. DaVinci can be gentle.

May your pants be dry and your wood sufficient in quick order.

Welcome to the other side.
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01
1 year psa (364 days) .01

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   Posted 4/19/2010 5:41 PM (GMT -6)   
That is a great report with the gleason remaining the same and you are feeling well. Cath will be out soon and recovery will hopefully go as smooth as the operation.
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed, 61 yo 2010
Robotic surgery 5/09 Atlanta, Ga
Catheter out after 10 days
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
 started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
T2C left lateral and left posterior margins involved
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4, 6 1/2 month psa.5
Starting IMRT on 1/18/10, Completed 39 tx at 72 gys on 3/12/10
Great family and friends

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Date Joined Dec 2009
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   Posted 4/19/2010 6:00 PM (GMT -6)   

Timm - Welcome to the other side.  Sounds like you are doing really well!!

Waiting for you to join the zero club!


Age:  63 
Biopsy: May 09 showed 2 of 12 cores positive for prostate cancer -- 1 at 5% and 1 at 25%.  Cancer indicated as non aggressive.  Gleason Score: 3+3.
RRP on Oct 23/09 in London, Ontario.  Excellent surgeon. 
7 Weeks Post Op -  The fears I had about bad things about the operation and recovery did not materialise except of course ED!!.  Otherwise, everything went very smoothly.  Incontinence not a problem.  Wear a pad when out just in case. Pain was never a problem.
Pathology:  Unremarkable 
First followup PSA and Visit: Feb 11/10 - 0.0.
Next PSA May
Next doctor's visit in 6 months      

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Date Joined Mar 2010
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   Posted 4/19/2010 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   


I am glad for you.  Please keep us informed.

Best wishes,


Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 4/19/2010 6:14 PM (GMT -6)   

What GREAT news. It is just amazing how some of us have such an easy time with the surgery. Pleased that you are one of the lucky one. Welcome to the other side.

Cajun Jeff

9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1 pre cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radical
Surgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clear

3 month: PSA <0.1
6 month: PSA <0.1
10 month:PSA <0.1
1 year: PSA <0.1
16 month:PSA <0.1

ED - Started Cialis at 3 months, tried all 3, 6 months added pump, 9 months Tried MUSE (YUCK) Bad experience.
1 year mark Found new Urologist visit was at 14th month post surgery
Started Injections, Caverject! (Success)
17 month: ED making improvements : Oral Meds gets me 85%

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   Posted 4/19/2010 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Timm, welcome to the other side!

With that catheter, enjoy being able to drink a case of beer and then sleep for 8 hours without needing to get up.

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
From "knock out" to wake up in recovery less than two hours.  Actual surgery 70 minutes
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues.
Oct 31st padless 24/7 
First post op PSA Sept 09  less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23 test again less than 0.02
PSA on Jan 8 less than 0.02
PSA on April 9 less than 0.02 

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Date Joined Feb 2010
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   Posted 4/20/2010 10:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Guys
  Feel like I got a real good punch in, on this thing. I'm going to take the next six days off and try not to  think about Cancer [lol] and then jump back on it Monday at the Doc's office. As a nurse friend of mind told me, you do'nt get alway with surgery without some trouble.
Question: When taking a BM. I get blood and urine leakage, from the point, willy and the Cath meet, I have had no blood in the bag, since day of surgery, seem's like I put pressure on this when I'm doing the job, anyway around this.
58 yrs.
PSA. 6.58
geason 3+4=7
Bio. 8of 12 cores pos. 2/1
robot 4/14

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   Posted 4/20/2010 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
You might try a stool softener (tends to reduce the pressure when BMing).
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.6

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   Posted 4/20/2010 12:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Yea, I've been taking for almost a week now, not a real big deal, but it stings like h-ll for a couple hours after.  thank you   tim

James C.
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   Posted 4/20/2010 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Tim, congrats on your 'normal' or even better than normal recovery so far. The blood and urine issue is common and wil be for some time to come, especially if you are constipated or having difficulty defecating. The suggestion for stool softner as well as temporarily altering your diet to more fiber will help this. smilewinkgrin
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man
4/07: PSA 7.6, Recheck after 4 weeks Cipro-6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% invloved, left lobe, GS3+3=6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RRP, 110gms, Path Report- Stg. pT2c, 10 gms., margins clear
32 Months: PSA's .04 each test since surgery, ED continues: Bimix- .3ml PRN, Trimix- .15ml PRN

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   Posted 4/20/2010 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks James
  If it's normal, I can deal with it.     Tim

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   Posted 4/20/2010 4:41 PM (GMT -6)   
That's the correct attirude. No whining.

Just be thankful you are having the BM's. It will all quiet down fairly quickly.
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01
1 year psa (364 days) .01

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Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 7080
   Posted 4/20/2010 6:32 PM (GMT -6)   
If the bowels are still a problem, you might try a little mineral oil - better soft and easy. Straining is not good.

The leakage may be a bladder spasm as well. The bleeding is likely from the urethra sutures. I had both for the whole time with the catheter.

Next thing to expect is the testicles swelling up like grapefruit. That will get your attention.

Welcome to the other side. Glad you made it!

O Buddy Boy
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   Posted 4/20/2010 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   

Keep it up!

55 yo
DRE: Susp
PSA: 3.5
Gleason: 3+4/7
6/12 Cores Positive; Sextants were 1%, 3%, 8%, 15%, 12%, 0%
RALP: 10/09/09
Margins: Clear
Lymph Nodes: Clear
Seminal Vesicles: Clear
Gleason: No increase from biopsy 3+4/7
Some perineural and capsule invasion.
Incontinence: Minor. 1 light pad a day. Some days don't need it.
ED: Natural with encouragement. 20mg Cialis and pump just makes things more fun.

Red Nighthawk
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   Posted 4/20/2010 9:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Timm, please keep us informed on your journey.

I found that drinking water quite a bit and walking a mile or so every day, then more as I got rid of the cath helped the recovery. I'm sure you knew this, but I'm just throwing it out there to state the obvious. drink and walk, drink and walk.

All those weird feeling you are probably getting during BM's will clear up soon enough. hang in,

Age: 62
Pre-op PSA: 4.1
Post-op pathology:
Gleason grade: 3+4=7, present in both lobes, at least 1.1 cm, and occupying less than 5% of prostate by volume. pT2c NX MX
No lymphatic/vascular invasion present.
Seminal vesicles and extraprostatic soft tissue free of tumor.
Inked margins are free of tumor.
High grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia is present
Robotic RP: Sept. 15th, 2009 1 day in hospital, cath out on 9th day
Post-op PSA: at 4 weeks ---> .04
three months -> .03 (the trend is my friend!)
ED: Improvement is very slow but there are positive signs. Doc has NOT put me on ED drugs yet.
One pad/day for the first six weeks. Two pairs of underpants, just to play it safe, for a few months.
Surgery: Dr. Jim Hu. Brigham & Women's Hospital, Boston

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