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foxieloxie
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   Posted 5/4/2010 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
How does a guy tell if he's had an orgasm when there is no ejaculation?

Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 5/4/2010 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
You get the same feeling you had before when you had ejaculation.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm in circumference.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 5 months
2 months PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1
8 months PSA test 10/9/09 result <0.1
11 months PSA test 1/21/10 result 0.004
14 months PSA test 4/19/10 result 0.005


Purgatory
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   Posted 5/4/2010 8:01 PM (GMT -6)   
You still can have the same build up, and when "it" happens, you still have the same contractions and spasms in that area. It can take a guy's mind a while to get use to the "dry" part, because we associate orgasm with ejaculation. In my own personal case, I can honestly say that orgasms have become longer lasting and more intense then at any time before my prostate was removed. My natural sex urge has remained basically the same as before. This subject, of course, will vary greatly from guy to guy here. Good question though, and welcome here.

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one:  July
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 4/23 put in


brainsurgeon
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   Posted 5/5/2010 12:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I find that the rapture of an orgasm is at least as good, if not better than when I had a prostate. At 71, I do need any ejaculation, nor does my wife. Besides, it is a great conversation starter when at a party, you whisper to a lady and ask her if she would like to see a dry orgasm.
70 years old (1939) USA citizen
Prostatic carcinoma dxed June 2009 by PSA (7.0) and then Bx
PSAs yearly since 2001 ranged 1.52 to 7.0. Doubled from 3.5 to 7.0 in one year.
Neg. CT and Bone Scan
4 of 8 biopsies positive (all right side) Gleason Score 3+4=7
Robotic assisted total prostatectomy and node excision July 2009 in Luzern, Switzerland by Dr. A. Mattei in the Kantonsspital. New Gleason was 4+4=8
pT2c G3 pN0 (0/14 nodes +, Margins, etc. clear
Catheter out in 5 days (home in 3 days). No incontinence
Positional neurpraxia in hip and knee resolved 90+% in 5 months.
Potency: beginning tumescence??? at 3 weeks post-op. Still happens at 3 months PO. Nearly usable one month later. At 5 mo. with 100 mg Vitamin V, pretty good. Now beginning 5 mg Cialis daily.
3month PSA less than 0.01, 6 month PSA less than 0.01


dogbot
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   Posted 5/5/2010 2:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I wish mine were dry. I just spurt urine with great force. I try to empty my bladder before hand, but there is always some ejaculated. I am nearly 12 months out from robotics and all other issues seem ok, some ed, but seems to be getting better. Will the urine spurt ease with time ?
All the best from England.
Diagnosed February 2009. Gleason 6, Psa 7.2, 12 core biopsy, and then Mri scan, which showed organ specific.
DaVinci at Addenbrookes, Cambridge, England 18th May 2009.  Nerves removed one side.
Catheter in for 8 days, no pain, no post op problems apart from an infection, cleared with antibiotics.
Some aching around the penis, which still occurs.
6 week psa 0.1, post op pathology all good, confirming pre op tests. Ed a problem, no treatment as yet.
Light ladies pad during the day, just to control a slight dampness and a Tena for  men pad at night for occassional leakage.
Awaiting 3 month consultation at the moment.
Sept 09 - still awaiting consultation. 99% dry during the day, tena pad at night just in case.
Sept 18th 09. PSA less than 0.1
Sept 29th follow up consultation at Addenbrookes. Staff happy with progress.
Nov 11th update. One small stress dribble in the last 2 months. Still some muscle stiffness in pelvic area.
March 20th psa less than 0.1 Very occassional stress dribble. No pads for several months.
 


MrGimpy
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   Posted 5/5/2010 3:47 AM (GMT -6)   
There is no doubt that for me Orgasms are far more intense now than before. Its more than just a feeling, my penis moves in a quick pulsing motion from side to side, which it never did before

Best part, now is that after orgasm, my erection stays , and I can keep going, no recovery time needed whatsoever
Stats:
Age: 52, PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on 01/09/09, Gleason Score = 3+3
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Post Op Path 3+3
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, <0.01 - 3 months post-op
PSA 1/10 undetectable, <0.01 - 9 months post-op
Trimix provides 100% erectile function


Worried Guy
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   Posted 5/5/2010 4:16 AM (GMT -6)   
The contractions feel the same. The real surprise is the ability to orgasm without an erection.
I thought wood was an integral part of the process. Now I see it was just going along for the ride.

Dogbot,
I hear you brother. That certainly puts a damper on things.

Jeff (the leaking one)
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day. Try controlling fluids.
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23. Did I waste 9 months? Mtg 5/22.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05, 4/14 9 months - 0.04 and <0.01 with ECLIA.


Casey59
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   Posted 5/5/2010 4:58 AM (GMT -6)   

Hello Fox,

You are new here, so I would like to welcome you to the site!  You have gotten some good answers to your initial question already, and so hopefully you've gotten an understanding of how the feeling of an orgasm is separate from the actual ejaculation of sperm/semen.

The responders here have a wide range of experiences with prostate cancer (PC)...testing, treatment, side effects, etc., and so if you have more questions please feel free to come back and ask more.

Are you, or someone you know, dealing with PC?


engineer55
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   Posted 5/5/2010 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I get the urine spurt as well but it does seem to get better over time, also seems like orgasms are better, maybe becasue it requires more buildup.
Dx'ed 5/08 one core 2%  out of 12  3+3 gleason
DREs all negative
PSA was in the 3-4 range then jumped to 7
I have the enlarged prostate, on the order of 100cc.  After taking Avodart for 3 months  my
PSA was cut in half.
I did Active S for a year but concluded that I didn't want a life
of biopsies and Uro meetings.
DaVinci on 6/24/09  UCI Med Center  Dr Ahlering, long surgery based on size and location
Final was 5% one side all clear, but had a huge 90 grm prostate
Now we work on pee control, ok at night but sitting is a big problem.


compiler
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   Posted 5/5/2010 10:39 AM (GMT -6)   
My orgasms, although totally dry, are at least as good as pre-surgery. (It's pretty much the same, maybe better).
 
I can orgasm without an erection.
 
At this point, I can get an erection, but not at all serviceable.
 
Still, it doesn't bother me one bit. My main goal is beating this cancer (unfortunately, there will be no quick answer to that; I'll have to live from PSA test to PSA test, every 3 months at this time). The second goal was to be continent and that is achieved (a spurt here and there, no big deal).
 
Mel

63 years old . PSA-- 3/08--2.90; 8/09--4.01; 11/09--4.19 (Free PSA 24%),  after 45 days on cipro! DREs have always been normal. PCA-3 was about 75 (way above the 35 threshold). That led to:

Biopsy on 11/30/09. 5 out of 12 cores positive. Gleason 4+3. 2 cores were 3+3 (one 5% and the other 30%) on one side. On  other side:2 cores are 4+3 (5%)--1 core 3+4 (30%) no peri-neural invasion. prostate is 45 grams. Stage: T1C.  

Surgery with Dr. Menon at Ford Hospital, 1/26/10. He says all looked good. Spared nerves. Unfortunately: Pathology Report: G 4+3 (65%-35%). Cancer in 15% of gland. Lymph Nodes: Clear.  Perineural Invasion: yes. Seminal Vessical Involvement: No.  Extraprostatic Extension: yes.  Positive Margin: Yes-- focal-- 1 spot .5mm. Final Weight is 52.7 gms.  (Second opinion from Jon Epstein at Hopkins confirmed these results)

 Incontinence: joined that club-- definite leaks—1 pad/day. Night is dry, was  using 1 pad at night for security, but pretty much dispensed with that most nights. Update: no pads at night. No pads while at home, but still very uncomfortable. Use 1 pad for out-of-house activities. Suddenly got MUCH better on 3/10/10, almost overnight. Still some urgency but no pads about 90% of the time.  As of 3/12/10--completely continent! Uh...OH. As of about 3/16/10 problems with constant urgency although no pads needed--feels like an infection but none showing in urine.

First post-op PSA on 3/10/10--DRUM ROLL: 0.01 Next PSA in mid-June.


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 5/5/2010 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
No Offense intended BUT....Me thinks Foxieloxie is a young woman who accidently found this site.

Gleason7
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   Posted 5/5/2010 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome Foxieloxie


74 years old / Gleason 3+4=7 / DiVinci 2/10/2010 / no pads / five week PSA was undetectable / orgasm's...I too get a tiny spurt of urine.

foxieloxie
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   Posted 5/5/2010 3:30 PM (GMT -6)   
To Steve n Dallas,
 
You're right.  I hope this site is not just for guys.  I'm just trying to understand what's happening to my guy.  And I'm trying to learn anything I can that will help us.  Didn't mean
to offend anyone.  You guys have already helped alot.  Thanks

Jim is sick
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   Posted 5/5/2010 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
MrGimpy said...
There is no doubt that for me Orgasms are far more intense now than before. Its more than just a feeling, my penis moves in a quick pulsing motion from side to side, which it never did before

Best part, now is that after orgasm, my erection stays , and I can keep going, no recovery time needed whatsoever

Your erection stays? How long does it last? Do you worry about the 4 hour thing? After we (wife and I) orgasm, we're ready for sleep. lol
48, Caucasian, 5' 8", 200lb, general good health.
PSA: 8-7-09 3.22, 11-13-09 4.25.
Biopsy: 32 cores. 3 cores reveal PCa, 10%, Gleason 3+3=6, T1C.
Diagnosed: 2-12-10.
Current Treatment: Active Surveillance, next appointment Oct. 2010. 
Preferred Treatment: I just want someone to harvest my immune cells, genetically engineer them to fight my prostate cancer, and then infuse them back into my body...


Purgatory
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   Posted 5/5/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -6)   
foxie,

you must realize by now, that the common theme here, is prostate cancer, and for any of us men that have had our prostates removed primarily by surgery, no longer have the physical means to ejaculate. so we have what is known as "dry orgasms", something most guys never have to think about in their lifetimes.

david in sc
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one:  July
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 4/23 put in


RCS
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   Posted 5/5/2010 4:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Foxieloxie,
 
about half of the people in the world have dry orgasms ... they're called women. yeah
PSA 2007 - 2.8
PSA 11/24/2008 - 7.6
Pc Dx 2/11/09; age at Dx 62
RLP 4/20/09
Biopsy - Invasive moderately differentiated prostatic andenocarconoma; G 3+3=6; PT2C; No evidence of Seminal Vesicle or Extraprostatic Involvement; Margins clear; Tumor identified in sections from prostatic apex.
Immediately continent after removal of cath.
ED - Trimix works well; viagra @ 60%
PSA - 7/31/09 <0.06
PSA - 12/1/09 <0.06
PSA - 3/29/10 <0.06
 
 
 


geezer99
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   Posted 5/5/2010 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Foxie
Welcome – we are here to help anyone with prostate cancer issues and that includes you.
As others have said, orgasm can happen without erection which, at least to us guys, is rather amazing. Orgasm may also be accompanies by some amount of urine leakage. You might want to remember that urine is sterile.

For those of us with ED there are other issues -- the “feedback” that we normally provide our partners is just not there. My wife wanted me to ask my Doc what she should read to learn how to make love to a post-surgical guy. His answer was; “She shouldn’t read anything! Your job (me, the guy) is to read yourself and then explain it to her.” It is a big change in our lovemaking but we are finding ways to work it out
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day
9 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day ED remains


MrGimpy
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   Posted 5/5/2010 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jim is sick,

My erections on average stay for 1.5 hours. With the help of Trimix, a big help
Stats:
Age: 52, PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on 01/09/09, Gleason Score = 3+3
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Post Op Path 3+3
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, <0.01 - 3 months post-op
PSA 1/10 undetectable, <0.01 - 9 months post-op
Trimix provides 100% erectile function


Frank1205
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   Posted 5/5/2010 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I'll add a couple of things, so much accurate info has been shared.

Position for me is everything, if I am standing up or leaning I leak more urine. I stop drinking any liquids an hour before and clear my bladder before and take a time out to tap a kidney if we are trying out for the olympics.
One thing that helps with some old tricks is the use of a condum during certain activities where leakage is inappropriate.
Orgasm for me is the same and sometimes much improved.
Unfortunalty leakage for me is still unpredictable at times. I recently got put on blood pressure medication and I attribute that to some difficulities.
Currently 56, surgery at 54
Normal , 2004 Biospy negative - 2008 Biopsy positive (01-08-08)
10 cores, 1 positive and at 1% of that one core
PSA @ surgery 6 
clinicaly Staged at T1C - Gleason 3+3 = 6
Robotic Da Vinci performed March 27th, 2008, University of Chicago.
Catheter out in 7 days normaly expected leakage
Post Pathology T2C, Gleason 7, (3+4) 10 % of both portions of prostate
Seminal vessels clear, fat tissue clear, single positve margin at apex measuring less than 1/2mm. 
PSA 6 week< 0.1, 4 month<.05, 6 month<0.01,9 month<0.01, 1 year <.008, 18 month .010, 2 year .010 undetectable
Watching PSA @ 6 months for (long time),  will do SRT if necessary.
Fair to Good results with Viagra,  side effects are bothersome at times. Tried Levetra about the same as Viagra.  Tried Cialis, think I will stay with the Viagra at 50-100 mg.  Side effects worse at 100 mg.  
 
 
 


English Alf
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   Posted 5/6/2010 12:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Foxie
Orgasm will be different
Sex will be different
But different does not mean worse.

At first my orgasm seemed so like it had before, muscle contractions etc that I thought I was still ejaculating, it was only by looking at things that I could see that I was not.

I had a big problem with urine leaking out during sex. Tried condoms with some success. Also, not just went to bathroom before sex, but went every five minutes during sex - a bit annoying to break the spell etc to do that but was able to pee something each time which helped.

Others have reported having sex in the shower when there has been urine leakage or using extra towels etc in the bed.

Things will change over time. I am for instance more or less dry all through sex now, and my erection varies a bit in side and firmness; my trouble now is that orgasms are now almost non existant, or more accurately thery've been replaced by a sudden pain in the area the prostate used to be. However as I am trying to deal with this problem on the basis of "practice makes perfect" things are not that bad.

Alfred

(RCS some women don't have dry orgasms - and I'm nor talking about female incontinence)
Age at Dx 48 No Family history of Prostate Cancer
Married 25 years, and I cannot thank my wife enough for her support.
April 2009: PSA 8.6 DRE: negative. Tumour in 2 out of 12 cores. Gleason 3+3.
RALP (nerve-sparing) at AVL-NKI Hospital Amsterdam on 29th July 2009. Stay 1 night.
Partial erections on while catheter still in. Catheter out on 6th Aug 2009.
Dry at night after catheter came out
Post-op Gleason 3+4. Tumour mainly in left near neck of bladder.
Left Seminal Vesicle invaded, (=T3b!)
no perineraul invasion, no vascular invasion. clear margins,
Erection 100% on 15th Aug 2009, but lots of leaking
Stopped wearing pads on 21st Sept 2009
Pre-op style intercourse on 24th Oct 2009 !! No use of tablets, jabs, VED etc.
Nov 17th 2009 PSA = 0.1
Mar 17th 2010 PSA = 0.4!!! referred to radiation therapist


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 5/6/2010 4:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Foxio - I was hoping to not offend YOU turn
 
Just thought it important for the guys here to know where you're coming from.
 
Glad you're here and ask anything you want...
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


MrGimpy
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   Posted 5/6/2010 4:33 AM (GMT -6)   
A lot of people mention urine when they have sex or orgasm. I am not sure if that is the norm, that may be linked to incontinence and likely will subside, many people I spoke to and myself are completely dry during sex and orgasm

Urinating before sex is a great idea but thats always been a great idea

Dry orgasms are by far a great improvement in my book, 1st much less Tide usage, second spontaneous sex away from home is much neater
Stats:
Age: 52, PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on 01/09/09, Gleason Score = 3+3
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Post Op Path 3+3
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, <0.01 - 3 months post-op
PSA 1/10 undetectable, <0.01 - 9 months post-op
Trimix provides 100% erectile function


NY-Sooner
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   Posted 5/6/2010 5:52 AM (GMT -6)   

I WISH I HAD DRY ORGASMS!!!!!  I ejeculate urine with such force that I can hit the ceiling with a good orgasm.  I ejeculate urine with more force without my prostate, then I ejeculated seman with my prostate. 

I am 3 years post op and I have seen no improvement in my ejeculating urine.  I am dry other wise and don't use pads, and I have no ED issues and can get a rock solid erection without drugs, but it is this dam urine ejeculation that is so frustrating.  Even if I try to void my bladder right before sex, I still will ejeculate some.  My uro said this is a side affect of surgery most doctors don't tell you about, but it is quit common.  My uro said that if you get some urine inside your partner, there is nothing to worry about because urine is sterile.  Try telling that to a woman!!!


 
Age 56, Biopsy 6/2007 - PSA 4.5, 2 of 12 with  <5% cancer Gleason 6
Surgery 9/2007 Strong Memorial,  Rochester  NY with Dr. Jean Joseph (1300 plus surgeries)
 Path - Negative margins, cancer in 20% examined tissue, Gleason 6
 Post Op - No ED issues, full erections without drugs,  used 5-7 pads a day for 3 months. Now dry except for stress leaks now and then.
 All post op psa's <.04


Gleason7
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   Posted 5/6/2010 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey English Alf...every five minutes would = before and after!!!

Worried Guy
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   Posted 5/6/2010 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Foxie,
By now I think you've learned a lot (maybe even more than you wanted to know) about orgasm.
the important take away from this is that the orgasm still fells good for the guy even though
1) there is no semen squirt
2) there might not be even a hint of an erection
3) there might be some urine.
4) even without an erection, a premature orgasm is possible.

I'm a guy and managed to be 56 years old without knowing the above facts.
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day. Try controlling fluids.
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23. Did I waste 9 months? Mtg 5/22.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05, 4/14 9 months - 0.04 and <0.01 with ECLIA.

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