Trimix used in longivity?

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geon
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Date Joined Oct 2007
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   Posted 5/16/2010 5:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I am 39 months post op wirh no natural erections.  For many months (~30) told to use told to used Trimix two to three times each week for exercise or intercourse.  Now at 39 months, am told to use Trimix only for intercourse with nothing else to use.  Has any one else been told this and to what end would is this suggestion made?  As a male, the erections make me whole some a couple times a week with or without intercourse.  Are the long term injections bad for the liver, etc?  I have not given up hope and would like to keep trying and pushing the envelope.
 
Any one have thoughts on this ?
 
Thank you,
Marc
66 years old 01252010; healthy; active,
married 43 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12. no help.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22. no help.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best). little help.
Cialis twice a week 7/25/07 to 11/6/08. no help.
Vacuum pump - Huge erections but not useable.
Trimix injections started.  0.09cc is great! 10/08/07.  Still good at 0.10CC and stimulation.
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 2/5/07.
PSA's, many to date undetectable.  Thank God!
Total ED...Since 2/5/07  URO took me off oral drugs 11/2008.
Geon


Cajun Jeff
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Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 4106
   Posted 5/16/2010 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I think there is some concerns about peronies (sp?) scar tissue build up with the injections.

Cajun Jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1 pre cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radical
Surgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clear

3 month: PSA <0.1
6 month: PSA <0.1
10 month:PSA <0.1
1 year: PSA <0.1
16 month:PSA <0.1

ED - Started Cialis at 3 months, tried all 3, 6 months added pump, 9 months Tried MUSE (YUCK) Bad experience.
1 year mark Found new Urologist visit was at 14th month post surgery
Started Injections, Caverject! (Success)
17 month: ED making improvements : Oral Meds gets me 85%


Piano
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 847
   Posted 5/17/2010 4:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I gave up injections at 18 months because of a slight bend starting to one side. This was in spite of being careful to inject on alternate sides.

Like you, I found the pump gave larger than normal erections that took some getting used to. However, we have gotten used to it, and I now get satisfactory results with just the pump for both exercise and intercourse. As with injections, it needed a fair bit of practice to discover the technique that works best for me.

Not as good as the injections of course, but I never really liked the injection process that much, and was kind of happy to find an excuse to give it up.
Pre-op:
Age 63 at diagnosis, now 65.
No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores.
Operation:
Non-nerve-sparing open surgery on 7 March 2008.
Two nights in hospital; catheter out after 7 days.
Post-op:
Continent; no pads needed from the get-go.
Pathology showed organ confined and negative margins. Gleason downgraded to 4+4=8.
PSAs:
6-week : <0.05
7-month: <0.05
13-month: 0.07 (start of a trend?)
19-month: 0.09 (maybe)
25-month: 0.2 (yes, bummer)
ED:
After a learning curve, Bimix injections (0.2ml) worked well. From 14 months, occasional nocturnal erections. At 18 months, "graduated" to just the pump.


Steve n Dallas
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 4829
   Posted 5/17/2010 5:22 AM (GMT -6)   
I was told you got what you got at 24 months. Meaning that if you can't get a natural erections by them I never will.
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


Bootheel
Regular Member


Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 300
   Posted 5/17/2010 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I am at 28 months using Bimix.  I developed a slight curve to the left.  It has not progressed so I am not sure if it is from the surgery or the shots.  I was doing fine with erections and viagra until I had 37 Rad treatments.  That kind of ended the progress for me.

Age 65
Diagnosed 10/12/07
PSA 6.3
Biopsy 18 core samples, 2 positive <5%
Stage T1a Gleason 6 (3+3)
LRP  1/29/08
Post-op
Gleason 7 (3+4)
1 positive margin (.3cm)
T2C
4/16/08- Started Bi-mix injections 
5/15/08- 1st Post-Op PSA 0.07 Undetectable
8/11/08 -2nd Post-OP PSA 0.02 Undetectable
8/15/08- No more pads as of today  Whoopee!!!
11/13/08- 3rd post-op PSA 0.02 Undetectable
03/02/09- 1 yr. post-op PSA .09 Undetectable
05/13/09   PSA .18 (ouch)
Started IMRT June 13, 2009
Completed 37 treatments July 31, 2009 (66.6gy)
11/23/09 Post IMRT PSA .18
2/12/10   Post IMRT PSA 0.00

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