<As one with well above average lifetime consumption of both red wine and blended tea, me and my Gleason 7 can attest that genetics trumps red wine and green tea.>
<In moderation, he said that “all signs show that red wine and green tea may be ranked among the most potent ‘health foods’ we know.”>
Can I preface all by saying that I AM a believer, as I have seen what can be done. I too agree with the Genetic Thump, as I was taking such materials and developed PC.
Given the 'assurance' that it took years for MY PC to develop, then I can suggest that as I only started taking the stuff 6 mths before DX, then it likely had minimal impact. Whilst I increased dosage to a therapeutic dose for a few months, and did get the PSA to start to fall, I used discression and had the operation , but continue with OPC treatment, in the hope of defying any Mets.
The issue is the amount that is being taken.. To enjoy the occasional glass of wine and tea is really not enough, and whilst good and enjoyable, the only way to get 'therapeutic doses' is to take supplements. Concentrates of those beneficial substances.
As I have reported elsewhere, we take OPC (OPCXtra to be precise), and it contains those same Polyphenols and OPC's and Antioxidants, but from various origins - being Green Tea, Bilberry, Grape-Skin, Grape-Seed, Mediterranean Pine, and more.. A daily dose is 1ts, and for some action, it's increased to 2 and more... I was taking 6 a day, as is my frined who is causing (mobile-phone) cancer (brain cancer) to shrink.
There is a tremendous amount of scientific research into the subject and the general trend is to declare that OPC's, Resveratrol's, Anti-Oxidants are the "Fountain of youth", "The Holy Grail" cure for all that ails us.
Just open your minds and GOOGLE and search !
Like this one..
Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC) of Selected Foods – 2007
The development of many chronic and degenerative diseases, such as cancer (1), heart
disease (5), and neuronal degeneration such as Alzheimer’s (4) and Parkinson’s disease
(9) has been theorized to be caused, in part, by oxidative stress. Oxidative stress has also
been implicated in the process of aging (2). It is known that reactive oxygen species can
damage biological molecules such as proteins, lipids, and DNA. While the human body
has developed a number of systems to eliminate free radicals from the body, it is not
100% efficient (20).
There was a big item on Today Tonight about the BEAUTY benefits
of the product ANTHOGENOL and Anti-Aging.
ANTHOGENOL was described as one of the MOST-POWERFUL anti-oxidant OPC's
The OPC said to be used in ANTHOGENOL, is "Vitis vinifera dry seed extract " (Grape-Seed)
Nov 2009 = First-PSA 5.3 @ 60yo - Asymptomatic - DRE-Non-Palpable
Jan-'10 = TRUS Bx DX - AdenoCar T1c - GS(3+3)=6 , 5 & 45% max., L-MidZone
May-'10 = RRP-Nrv-Spare
Post Op. GS(3+4)=7, 1.1cm3, Pos Margins, EPE (focal) Lateral Left
Margin-Involvement (extensive) Posterior , Grade3 x 8mm
+8week PSA<0.01, ED-85%, Incont-30%
+16W PSA<0.01, ED -85%, Cont -5%
+17W First 'DRY' day. ED -90%
Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 10/12/2010 4:24:40 PM (GMT-6)