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Highwayman
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Posted 4/2/2011 3:02 PM (GMT -8)
James,

Not acually in the middle a the time. Ha ha. We are trying getting used to the hinge part. Good god the first thing she said was oh thats cold! I'm only five months out. I'm looking into what works if the real brain down there refuses to work, do the shots feel natural for her?

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James C.
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Posted 4/3/2011 5:09 AM (GMT -8)
Highwayman, the shots (usually) result in a completely natural erection- warm, firm, definitely no hinge effect. Actually, maybe even better than natural, as you may have something firmer and longer lasting than you did since your 20's. How' that for motivation? devil
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Cajun Jeff
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Posted 4/3/2011 8:24 AM (GMT -8)
Highwayman, I will echo James C. the injections have make me feel as close to natural as possible. Actually I think the injections make me even better. :)

Cajun Jeff
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Highwayman
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Posted 4/4/2011 11:23 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Guys,

You Gotta have options yeah

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cyclingboy
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Posted 4/7/2011 7:15 PM (GMT -8)
ok, one more nuts and bolts question:
do you typically have to keep increasing dosage over time? the first time in doc's office I injected 7 units of bimix and had a 90% result, which lasted 3.5 hours. since then I have not had that good a result, even increasing the dosage slightly to 8. not as firm and not as long lasting. I guess I will keep increasing dosage 1 unit at a time, though from the first experience I am leery of getting too close to that magical 4 hour mark.

also, on using a ring before injection - I presume this is put on at base but not behind testicles. how tight? will something like a tied rubber band work?

seemed like results were good at first, not so good now. maybe I'm just nervous about dosage being too high...
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James C.
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Posted 4/8/2011 6:55 AM (GMT -8)
Cb, sorry you are still having problems. I suppose that until you find your happy best case dose, you can keep increasing the amount. However, once you do reach it, you shouldn't need to increase, if anything, you will be able to decrease, if your experience is like the other guys. A rubber band will do fine. It should be tight enough to hold the blood in the penis without any leaking out. Note the word 'any'. If it is still slowly leaking out, then the drug is still being lost. Practice with the bands before injecting to find what it takes to keep the penis at a 1/3 or so, semi-erect stage for 3 to 5 minutes. If you find the amount of tightness with the bands to hold that partial erection, then you have found the amount of restriction you need. If so, then proceed with the injection. Remember, you can use the bands to hold either a partial (for injections) or full (for attempted intercourse) for up to 30 minutes before the band must be removed. So, there's no rush to get there. Practice with the bands then practice with the injection.

Questions: When you are partially erect and the bands on,
1. Do you still lose the erections- even if slowly?
2. When partially erect, can you 'feel' the needle 'drop into' or feel less resistance, indicating you have gotten the tip into the penis cavernous cavity, which is where the drug needs to go? Most people will feel a definite drop off of resistance when the needle gets there. Going further than that increases the chances of passing thru the other side of the cavity and on into the cartlidge and muscle in the center of the penis.

Just asking, as you seem to be having trouble in placing the dose in the right place, if you are still having to increase the amount of the drug.
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James C.
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Posted 5/29/2011 7:22 AM (GMT -8)
bump to top for any new folks, or those who didn't bookmark---(you know who you are.... tongue)
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James C.
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Posted 8/14/2011 5:34 AM (GMT -8)
Bump back to the top for new guys who may not have read this and the resulting posts.
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NolaVette
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Posted 11/2/2011 6:02 AM (GMT -8)
Hi James,

In your first post of this very informative thread you mentioned your first experience with Caverject which turned out to be 3 times the dosage you actually needed. I'll be doing my first injection ever this weekend with Caverject also. I was told to use .5ml. I was wondering, what was the dosage you were told to use that was 3 times too much for you? I'd much rather start out with a lower dosage and work up than vice-versa.

Thanks,

Steve

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Raddad
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Posted 11/2/2011 6:18 AM (GMT -8)
I clicked on the "Gonna Make Myself a Better Man" link in James signature.

If you have not - do so!

One of the comments is
When I listen to this,my whole body smiles.

Just the way I felt!

Thanks James!

Bud
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clocknut
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Posted 11/2/2011 8:27 AM (GMT -8)
One question I have is, what the heck do you do with an hour-long or two-hour long erection?  My wife and I would definitely be finished with it in ten minutes, and when you're talking about women in their 60's, the idea of evening-long sessions of intercourse may be exactly what they DON'T want.

I'm sure there are exceptions to this, but we're not kids anymore.

Also, does an erection brought about by the injections help or hinder orgasms?  It would feel very weird to have an orgasm and still have an erection afterwards.

 

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James C.
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Posted 11/2/2011 10:19 AM (GMT -8)
Steve
NolaVette: I honestly can't recall what the dosage was, I do know it was 40mcg strength and am sure it was above .3ml or 30 units. The dosage using the Caverject Impulse was all or nothing, if I remember right. Sprry, wish I could help you more. If you have a syringe that will allow you to set your own dosage, by pulling up a certain amount, rather than it being a dial it and inject system, then I personally would start low and work my way up. By low, if it were me, I would start with maybe .10 or 10 units on the syringe. Don't expect full success the first time, it will take a while, most likely, to find what is the best dose for you. Good luck. Also, have some Sudafed on hand, not the Sudafed PE, but the original 'good' stuff.

Clocknut, what do you do with it? Well, after a few months (or years) of impotence, I'd recommend that you just admire it, after use, maybe even make a drawing or even a photo of it. LOL One thing you don't want to do, after you are done with it, is to continue stimulating it, as it will spring right back to life and then you got to start all over in getting a decline started again. As far as orgasm's and how they feel, there is a difference, for me, in that, but it's tough to describe, other than to say different but satisfying. The whole organ and the 'feel' is different, if you have a really good stick, then it will remind you of how you felt at 15 when it seemed you could drive nails, and even with the probably forgotten ache that accompanied it, way back then. And that feel good feeling will last for several days after. Just me, I'm saying, not for everyone else, of course.
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Fred Butz
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Posted 11/6/2011 6:58 AM (GMT -8)
I injected with EDEX lastnight and I didn't apply pressure to the injection site as I was told to do.

Well, this morning I look in the mirror and my penis has this hugh bruise on it.

(Fred - I'm editing the link - two reasons 1) a little more graphic than the board allows 2) we don't generally allow new posters to add links - that aside, it was a good example of what happens when we forget to follow instructions from the docs. My uro also warned me, and this will be a reminder next time. Your intentions are good, but... - 142)

So this is what happens when you don't apply pressure to the injection site.

But don't let this stop you.  I've been using EDEX for a month now and its the first time in 5 years I was able to have sex.

Post Edited By Moderator (142) : 11/6/2011 2:24:43 PM (GMT-7)

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KickintheButt
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Posted 11/6/2011 1:44 PM (GMT -8)
James,

I wish I had seen the positive stuff here on injection therapy when you first posted this. I resisted because of the unnaturalness of sticking a needle in there and only relented after 3 years of on and off and unsuccessful use of Viagra and Co. My change of heart was based on my discouragement of ever being able to have an erection again and the possibility held out by the therapist that injections "might" aid recovery of the organ and it's nerves.

Well I can say that although I have only injected 16 times, first 5 Bimix, the rest Trimix, that the regeneration process does appear to be gradually but noticeably taking place. It took 3 or 4 shots of Trimix to get fairly close to the right dose though there is a little inconsistency. The last shot was weak as I think leaving the ready-mixed shot in a chiller bag for too long resulted in it going off. However the process, while a bit awkward, and I do get the trembles a little, is almost totally painless. The pain in the shaft which used to accompany erections seems to have diminished, or else I have got used to it. If anything it is a nice reminder of what's hard down there!

With passing time and experience I seem to be able to stimulate a better semi-erection without the shot and I am thinking of going back and trying Viagra and Cialis again which used to be good for at best 80% (not quite sufficient). Dr Mulhall's video online was a help and encouragement and in spite of being 40 months out from surgery, things have progressed better in the ED area than in any other period. My encouragement is "don't give up if you can feel anything there".

Fred, I wouldn't be too concerned about the bruising at the injecting site, I have had that several times. It fades very quickly, usually 24-36 hours. I hope to get better and more accurate with the shots and hopefully avoid the nasties of scarring, fibrosis, Peyronies etc. Thanks to everyone here for being encouragers and supporters.

Muz
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MrGimpy
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Posted 11/10/2011 8:30 AM (GMT -8)

clocknut said...
One question I have is, what the heck do you do with an hour-long or two-hour long erection? My wife and I would definitely be finished with it in ten minutes, and when you're talking about women in their 60's, the idea of evening-long sessions of intercourse may be exactly what they DON'T want.
I'm sure there are exceptions to this, but we're not kids anymore.

Also, does an erection brought about by the injections help or hinder orgasms? It would feel very weird to have an orgasm and still have an erection afterwards.

Hi Clocknut,

10 minutes !!! 2 words,,,Kama Sutra, experiment and be happy. What is "weird" is that now you can have an erection and keep going, no longer a recovery period needed

No what is weirder is not being married and explaining to the new GF that you really are having an orgasm even though there no proof. Hmm wonder if both faked it if it counts as making love at all, kind of like the Tree falls in woods no one is around did it make a sound deal

Anyway there are dozens of Kama Sutra book on Amazon, here's just one

www.amazon.com/Modern-Kama-Sutra-Ultimate-Pleasure/dp/1569243093/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320942350&sr=1-1
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James C.
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Posted 3/1/2013 8:42 AM (GMT -8)
Been a while, so time to bring it back up to the top, just in case, considering a couple threads now active.
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TeeeGeee
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Posted 3/25/2013 6:51 AM (GMT -8)
Thank you James for bumping this thread back up and for the great information supplied.
I have a new prescription for Caverject, 40mcg powder. My doctor forgot or didn't realize it didn't automatically come with the diluent, so I am waiting for my mail order pharmacy to send me the diluent. I have used Trimix effectively in the past, but my insurance doesn't pay for the Trimix. It is rather expensive. When I used the Trimix, I found that .3ml was most effective for me. Fortunately my insurance does pay entirely for my Caverject, so I am using that for the time being. I do remember the dull ache from the Caverject and it was not really a problem, although I will supply myself with some Sudafed just in case. My previous experience with Caverject was with the little blue one use kit. Now, however, I have to determine how much of the diluent to inject into the powder and once it is diluted, how much to inject into "Willy". If I understood your previous reply of 11/2/11 to Steve NolaVette, you suggested he start with a .10ml injection. I understand that, but I am still unsure of the dilution amount. In order to use that .10ml injection, how much of the diluent am I injecting into that 40mcg vial?
Any clarification would be gratefully appreciated.
Terry
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PeterDisAbelard.
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Posted 3/25/2013 7:06 AM (GMT -8)
Terry,

I started a new thread for you to get more attention to your question. Here it is:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=2682866

Welcome to the forum.
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James C.
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Posted 5/21/2014 4:19 PM (GMT -8)
Repost for any new members interested since last time.
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BillyBob@388
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Posted 5/21/2014 8:08 PM (GMT -8)
Still searching for the right dose of Trimix and rings and such. Recommended starting dose was 0.2 ml, but due to my fear of the 4 hour problem, I started much lower. Shooting just for a circulation boost for rehab at 1st, I got some impressive results with less than 1/2 the recommended dose and thought I was going to have it made. Even the lower doses seemed like they might be enough for penetration, plus plenty of warm blooded circulation, not to mention ache. Got an Actis type ring to hopefully prevent urine escape ( I am about 2 months 3 weeks since catheter removal and still fairly incontinent but improving slowly). So got up to 1.2 ml and gave it a go, but lost adequate firmness when I laid down. Tried 1.4, I think the injection was a slight miss, got only a minimal response.

Then last night went for it with full dose 0.2 ml, seemed like a perfect injection with good blood return and zero injection resistance. To my surprise it never got quite as firm as it had at lower doses, barely managed to penetrate even with me standing up. Stopped after a couple of minutes as I have read that a suspected cause of PD is the trauma caused by trying to go at it with inadequate response. sigh. Maybe I will go up above .2 next try. I have not had any Cialis in about a week, I'm just out and trying to get my insurance to pay some so I've been holding off a bit. Could that have decreased my response? ( I was most likely non-nerve sparing)

Will rings help with the loss of erection(even after injection) after laying down? I can see that it won't take much tightness of the Actis to help with the urine problem. But how tight should it be for the purpose of helping erections after injections and laying down? Do I need something as tight as a pump ring?

Plus, in the OP of this great thread a pump/ring for 1/3 erection prior to injection technique is described. Can I use one of those rings ( for < than 30 mins, or more likely for < 15) that came with my Augusta pump after full response to injection has been achieved? Safe? Helpful, especially for laying down? Or should I just be looking more to find a high enough dose to get firm enough and keep it after laying down? ( prior to surgery had no problems after laying down with Cialis aided erections )

Is this enough questions?

Lastly, I've got to get some Bimix for less ache, hope it works at least as good.
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Posted 5/22/2014 5:04 AM (GMT -8)
BillyBob, you asked:

"Can I use one of those rings ( for < than 30 mins, or more likely for < 15) that came with my Augusta pump after full response to injection has been achieved? Safe? Helpful, especially for laying down? Or should I just be looking more to find a high enough dose to get firm enough and keep it after laying down? ( prior to surgery had no problems after laying down with Cialis aided erections ) "

Good question and one I don't have an answer for. I was wondering the same thing while re-reading this thread. My first impulse is to say no, it isn't safe to do so, as you may cause damage to the already engorged and erect organ. I am interested in the Actis band, though, and will look up some more about it. It seems to be the safer alternative to using a full strength penis ring, which can grip very tight. Maybe others can share their experience or thoughts.
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Posted 5/24/2014 5:36 PM (GMT -8)

James C. said...
BillyBob, you asked:

"Can I use one of those rings ( for < than 30 mins, or more likely for < 15) that came with my Augusta pump after full response to injection has been achieved? Safe? Helpful, especially for laying down? Or should I just be looking more to find a high enough dose to get firm enough and keep it after laying down? ( prior to surgery had no problems after laying down with Cialis aided erections ) "

Good question and one I don't have an answer for. I was wondering the same thing while re-reading this thread. My first impulse is to say no, it isn't safe to do so, as you may cause damage to the already engorged and erect organ. I am interested in the Actis band, though, and will look up some more about it. It seems to be the safer alternative to using a full strength penis ring, which can grip very tight. Maybe others can share their experience or thoughts.

BTW, the Actis venous leak ring specifically states it can be used with injections as well as pills. There has not been any response to my question about rings + injection, so I guess no one is doing that? Is no one else loosing the erection when laying down? I guess on my next try, I should just go up above the .2 ml dose Trimix if I have not been getting a good enough response?
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Posted 5/24/2014 6:15 PM (GMT -8)
Billy Bob Bill,

Actually, losing your erection when lying down is a fairly common complaint among injectors here. It's caused a venous leak and one of the looser rings like your Actis might well help.
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PeterDisAbelard. said...
Billy Bob Bill,

Actually, losing your erection when lying down is a fairly common complaint among injectors here. It's caused a venous leak and one of the looser rings like your Actis might well help.

Thx Peter. I guess the venous leak problem is not helped or related to Trimix dose?
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Posted 5/24/2014 7:17 PM (GMT -8)
Bill,

Not necessarily. As I recall Dr Mulhall treated BlueBird's husband for the "injection goes away when I lay down" problem using really high doses of Trimix for a while (75 units of Super Trimix). He was eventually able to reduce his dose and the problem seemed to have gotten better.
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