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stevmac1
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   Posted 6/28/2010 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
"I HAVE Prostate Cancer" or "I HAD Prostate Cancer" ? How do we respond?
steve
50 Yrs. old.  DX Feb, 2010 w/6.6 PSA.
Biopsy 04-24-10, Gleason 3+3=6
4 of 5 cores left side inv. 4 of 6 rt side
RRP 06-07-10....
16 days post-op, catheter out.
Gleason upgraded to 3+4
No involvement of lymph nodes & seminal vesicle.
 


LV-TX
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   Posted 6/28/2010 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I prefer..."I am a cancer survivor"

I guess it is a matter of how you view life...too many cliche's to post...but you get the meaning.
You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral w/PNI - Gleason (3+3)6 Stage T1C
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (3+4) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
                   3 month Jan 2009     .06
                   6 month Apr 2009     .06
                   9 month Jul  2009     .08
                 12 month Oct 2009     .09 
                 18 month April 2010   .19


60Michael
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   Posted 6/28/2010 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I have prostate cancer until I see a string of zeros and then just might say I was treated for PCa. Not sure there is a right or wrong here Steve, just a personal preferance although others might have a different perspective.
Michael
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed, 61 yo 2010
Robotic surgery 5/09 Atlanta, Ga
Catheter out after 10 days
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
 started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
T2C left lateral and left posterior margins involved
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4, 6 1/2 month psa.5 on 11/28/10
Starting IMRT on 1/18/10, Completed 39 tx at 70 gys on 3/12/10
6 week Post IMRT PSA .44 a drop from .5 but maybe more
Great family and friends
Michael


daveshan
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   Posted 6/28/2010 3:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting thought, haven't had the option to think about the "had" term.

May I suggest

Positive margins and/or detectable PSA = have

Clean margins and undetectable PSA = had

For me right now it's "fighting PCa" my wife when she talks to others says Dave has PCa.
Diagnosed 12-09 age 55
07-06 PSA 2.5
01-08 PSA 5.5 (PCP did not tell me of increase or schedule follow-up!!!!)
09-09 PSA 6.5 Sent for consult with Urologist
11-09 Consult, scheduled for biopsy, found out about PSA from '08 (yes I was pissed)
12-09 Biopsy, initial Gleason 9 (4+5) later reduced to 8 with tertiary 5, ain't much but I'll take it.
01-10 Bone Scan, "appears negative"
03-01-10 RRP in Durango CO by Dr Sejal Quale and Shandra Wilson, no naked eye evidence of spread, Vesicles and lymph nodes taken for microscopic exam.

03-16-10 Removal of cath' and pathology results of samples.
Multifocal carcinoma with areas of Gleason pattern 3, 4 and 5, Overall Gleason grade 4+4 with tertiary 5, Bilateral involving 21% of left lobe, 3% of right lobe, Invasion of left Seminal vesicle, Tumor focally present at left resection margin, 9 lymph nodes removed all negative, Tumor staging pT3b NO MX

04-23-10 PSA <0.04
05-03-10 1 week without pads
06-07-10 PSA <0.04


stevmac1
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   Posted 6/28/2010 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, I definitely don't want to put the cart before the horse, the thought just crossed my mind.
steve
50 Yrs. old.  DX Feb, 2010 w/6.6 PSA.
Biopsy 04-24-10, Gleason 3+3=6
4 of 5 cores left side inv. 4 of 6 rt side
RRP 06-07-10....
16 days post-op, catheter out.
Gleason upgraded to 3+4
No involvement of lymph nodes & seminal vesicle.
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 6/28/2010 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Having survived 4 different bouts of dangerous cancers in my life so far, I take Les's answer as "Cancer Survivor"
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one:  July
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, 5/24 put in Cath #17


compiler
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   Posted 6/28/2010 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   

I've expressed this opinion before: I really don't care for the term "survivor."

 

Hey, if your plane crashes and you live, you are a SURVIVOR. The danger is OVER and you have SURVIVED. Ditto is you come home from a War.

 

Sorry, the analogy fails with cancer.  We go from one PSA to the next. It SUCKS. We learn to deal with it because we have no choice.

 

SO, WE ARE DEALING WITH IT.

Mel


63 years old . PSA-- 3/08--2.90; 8/09--4.01; 11/09--4.19 (Free PSA 24%),  after 45 days on cipro! DREs have always been normal. PCA-3 was about 75 (way above the 35 threshold). That led to:

Biopsy on 11/30/09. 5 out of 12 cores positive. Gleason 4+3. 2 cores were 3+3 (one 5% and the other 30%) on one side. On  other side:2 cores are 4+3 (5%)--1 core 3+4 (30%) no peri-neural invasion. prostate is 45 grams. Stage: T1C.  

Surgery with Dr. Menon at Ford Hospital, 1/26/10. He says all looked good. Spared nerves. Unfortunately: Pathology Report: G 4+3 (65%-35%). Cancer in 15% of gland. Lymph Nodes: Clear.  Perineural Invasion: yes. Seminal Vessical Involvement: No.  Extraprostatic Extension: yes.  Positive Margin: Yes-- focal-- 1 spot .5mm. Final Weight is 52.7 gms.  (Second opinion from Jon Epstein at Hopkins confirmed these results)

 Incontinence: joined that club-- definite leaks—1 pad/day. Night is dry, was  using 1 pad at night for security, but pretty much dispensed with that most nights. Update: no pads at night. No pads while at home, but still very uncomfortable. Use 1 pad for out-of-house activities. Suddenly got MUCH better on 3/10/10, almost overnight. Still some urgency but no pads about 90% of the time.  As of 3/12/10--completely continent! Uh...OH. As of about 3/16/10 problems with constant urgency although no pads needed--feels like an infection but none showing in urine.

Update: since late March all is well in that area. I would say 99.9% continent (a spurt here and there, maybe 5 spurts per week). As of 6/22/10, I would say I am 100% continent, but I do have (controllable) significant urgency.

First post-op PSA on 3/10/10--DRUM ROLL: 0.01 Next PSA in mid-June.

Second post-op PSA on 6/21/10--0.02--Not too bad!


142
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   Posted 6/28/2010 5:55 PM (GMT -6)   
If you die from something else, you had PCa. Until then, you can't prove that you don't, so you have it. Maybe someday there will be a perfect test, and we can really go back to living out of the PCa shadow. Would be nice.
Mel, I could observe that I had no more choice to get PCa than I would to willingly chose the plane that would crash, or be the target of a hit and run at a crosswalk with the light, so survivor works for me.

IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 6/28/2010 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Steve,

The way you wish to express it is your choice.

I do like the thought that you are in remission from Prostate Cancer, and that is one way to express it.

I like survivor, because all of us that are living have survived all the ailments of life and shows that we have the determination to press on.

Everything posted here seems valid to me and it is totally up to you, kind sir.

Barry
Surgery: Da Vinci; July 31, 2007; 54 on surgery day;
Pathology: PSA: 4.3; Gleason: 3+3=6; T2a; Confined to Prostate;
Post RP PSAs: 09/'07 <0.04; 12/'07 <0.04; 03/'08 <0.04;
06/'08 <0.04; 12/'08 <0.04; 06/'09 =0.06; 09/'09 <0.04; 12/'09 =0.05;
Latest PSA 3/'10 <0.04


English Alf
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   Posted 6/29/2010 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
One criteria for judging what to say is surely if you are or are not a member of the zero club. Which I have not yet been.

At present I am thus: "being treated for prostate cancer"
I sometimes also say "I was diagnosed with prostate cancer last year"

I can see "I've been treated for prostate cancer" being a possibility in the (near) future.

I've not survived it yet, nor am I fighting it or struggling against it. Nor am I a victim.

So am I a "PCa player" perhaps or even "PCa drifter" as I float on down stream to the next test.

I'm also a prostate-free zone.

Alf
Age at Dx 48 No Family history of Prostate Cancer
Married 25 years, and I cannot thank my wife enough for her support.
April 2009: PSA 8.6 DRE: negative. Tumour in 2 out of 12 cores. Gleason 3+3.
RALP (nerve-sparing) at AVL-NKI Hospital Amsterdam on 29th July 2009. Stay 1 night.
Partial erections on while catheter still in. Catheter out on 6th Aug 2009.
Dry at night after catheter came out
Post-op Gleason 3+4. Tumour mainly in left near neck of bladder.
Left Seminal Vesicle invaded, (=T3b!)
no perineraul invasion, no vascular invasion. clear margins,
Erection 100% on 15th Aug 2009, but lots of leaking of urine
Stopped wearing pads on 21st Sept 2009
Pre-op style intercourse on 24th Oct 2009 !! No use of tablets, jabs, VED etc. but...
Nov 17th 2009 PSA = 0.1
Can still get erections okay, and almost no leaking of urine, but since December 2009 I don't have orgasms, instead I just have intense pain in place where prostate used to be.
Mar 17th 2010 PSA = 0.4!!! referred to radiation therapist
April 13th 2010 CT scan.
April 28th 2010 Started Radiation Therapy (66Gy - 33 sessions)
June 11th 2010 finished RT - main side effect tiredness, but also the occasional small leak


Worried Guy
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   Posted 6/30/2010 6:50 PM (GMT -6)   
If it comes up in conversation I say "I had it. The Uro yanked it out about a year ago. I'm doing great." That's been enough to answer everyone so far. Even me.
I'm not a survivor or a victim. I'm just a guy that caught a bad break but hopefully caught it in time.
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 3+4=7, 3+3=6. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day. Try controlling fluids.
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23.
5/22/10 10 months: 2 pads per day, 190 ml/day Scope on June 15 Short sphincter
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05, 4/14 9 months - 0.04 and <0.01 with ECLIA.


Swimom
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   Posted 6/30/2010 10:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I like the saying " I have a history of". Makes it sound less like something I have and more like I've moved on. Say it any way you want :-)
 
 
Paul
 
 Hilarem datorum diligit Deus


Im_Patient
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   Posted 6/30/2010 11:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I was absolutely sure that I HAD it, with a decent string of 0's. I'm with 142, unfortunately. I think you live in the shadow of it (at least I know I will now, regardless of whether I get to a long string of 0's again or not) for the rest of your life. That definitely does NOT mean it needs to dominate you. Life is a lot more than a PSA test, and does not have to mean living in dread from one to the next.
Jeff
Gleason, 3+4; PSA, 7.9
Robotic Prostatectomy, March 2008 (Age 48 then), nerves both sides spared, post surgery analysis confirmed 3+4 Gleason,
pT2c, prostate 60.2g, margins: negative; perineural invasion: present; lymphatic invasion: present; 3 lymph nodes removed, clear; seminal vesicle invasion: absent; Gleason 4 comprises 5-10% of carcinoma
PSA consistently <0.1 since surgery until Oct 09: 0.1; retested Oct 09, <0.1,
Jan 10, 0.2
retest Feb 1 confirmed 0.2
CT scan, bone scan Feb 10 both clear
PSA after, 2010: March, 0.17; April, 0.17; May, 0.24; June, 0.31
Starting salvage IGRT on August 4


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/1/2010 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Some of these answers sound like "denial" after the fact. We are all cancer survivors here in the truest sense of the word. I don't know any other way of saying it. We are surviving. Haven't been to any funerals yet for any of us, we survive, we live, we fight this PC, we go on.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one:  July
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12  same time, 2/8-Cath #11 out - 21 days, 3/2- Cath #12 out - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, 3/6 Cath #13 out - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, 5/24 put in Cath #17


zufus
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   Posted 7/1/2010 9:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I like Donna Pogliano's words on the front of Dr. Strum's book- after her name- Partner of a Warrior in the Battle Against Prostate Cancer. If you are the uncured scenario, it is surely war if fighting this, all the protocols, agendas, drugs, profits made off of patients. After a while with enough psa tests in your arms, and blood tests and other tests....you been poked, prodded, handled, and given an emotional roller coaster that doesn't stop not only violated with the DRE (LOL) but financially even with insurance, throw in doseages of arrogant docs and highly profittable protocols, gee this is all for me! I love it, and when do we get tied to the rack, stake or shown the iron maiden. It's a great gig sweet heart. Ok, I overstated it 1% (LOL)

Robert Young coined PCa as the Jungle about 8 yrs. ago (I think he knoweth the beast)
his website is/was www.phoenix5.org


Youth is wasted on the Young-(W.C. Fields)


STW
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   Posted 7/1/2010 12:49 PM (GMT -6)   
This actually has some real world application. I was a regular blood donor before PCa. Once I was diagnosed the blood bank told me that their policy was to wait until you have been cancer free for one year. They feel I have been free for one year - "Come on down."
I think they are nuts and am waiting until the jury comes back a few more times. I may be cancer free but will not risk someone else's life on it.
Diagnosed at 54
PSA 8.7 Biopsy 1/7/09
4 of 6 cores positive, one at 90%
Gleason 3+4=7 Neg bone scan 1/15/09
One shot Lupron Depot 1/27/09 Tax Season
RP 4/29/09
Neg lymph nodes, postive seminal vesicle, 1 positive margin
Gleason 3+4=7 with tertiary 5 T3b
Catheter out at 2 weeks no nighttime incontinence Pad free week 5
PSA 6/6/09 <0.1; 9/10/09 <0.1; 3/11/10 <0.1


stevmac1
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   Posted 7/1/2010 1:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hah! Since I'm the original poster, I'm going with.......Warrior!!!

smilewinkgrin

steve 


50 Yrs. old.  DX Feb, 2010 w/6.6 PSA.
Biopsy 04-24-10, Gleason 3+3=6
4 of 5 cores left side inv. 4 of 6 rt side
RRP 06-07-10....
16 days post-op, catheter out.
Gleason upgraded to 3+4
No involvement of lymph nodes & seminal vesicle.
 


bsjoplin
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   Posted 7/1/2010 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
..my blood bank told me to be "cancer free" (whatever that is) for FIVE years.  like you say, i think i'm done with blood donating.  oh well
bob

Age@dx: 55

5/05             PSA test 1.8  --12/19/07  PSA test 3.7  --7/25/08    PSA test: 4.7

8/26/08        1st Prostate Biopsy: 3 samples out of 6 have irregular cells

11/25/08      PSA test: 6.5

12/11/08      2nd Prostate Biopsy :  of 12 samples, 3 are cancer, and all other 9 are irregular.  original NJ lab sent samples to Johns Hopkins for special reading.  Gleason 3+3=6.  now:read book, and think about options: radiation, surgery, etc

1/22/09        Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy.  main issue was use of BOTH pre-donated units of blood during surgery, and then required 2 additional units in recovery, before going to room

1/25/09        Released from hospital. No drive, no lift >5 lb

1/28/09        Pathology results from removed tissue:  Cancer was seen on 10% of gland, lymph nodes & SV were benign, nothing seen outside of the prostate.  One area of cancer extended right up to edge, but not beyond.  Gleason was re-typed as 3+4=7, staged T2c

2/13/09        PSA=0.1

3/6/09          6week appt, start back to work Monday, 3/9.  script for Cialis

6/8/09          PSA=0.1

10/9/09        PSA=0.1

2/10/10        PSA=0.3 discussed possibility of radiotherapy and/or hormone.

4/7/10          PSA= 0.4  Recurrence of the cancer is probable. Referred me to RO

5/4/10                   First RT.  RO is recommending 37 treatments x 1.8Gy=66.6 Gy

6/25/10       Final RT. ended up w/ 36 treatments, 64.8 Gy


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/1/2010 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Do to the ultra rarity of my original 3 cancer bouts, non-PC related, I was put on a lifetime ban of blood donation. Which was a shame, for years I was always in the Gallon Clubs, I miss not being able to give blood.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one:  July
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, 5/24 put in Cath #17


zufus
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   Posted 7/1/2010 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Stevmac1- kudos to you in your choice of an adjective
(Warrior types):
Samuri warrior
Ninja warrior
Special Ops warrior

PCa warrior (well it will gain popularity and acknowledgement eventually)!!!


Youth is wasted on the Young-(W.C. Fields)


BillyMac
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   Posted 7/1/2010 5:48 PM (GMT -6)   
STW,
The blood donation scenario is interesting. Even if you had advanced prostate cancer (with many cells wandering around in your blood stream) in the normal course of events it would not be possible for a blood recipient to "catch" your prostate cancer. Their immune system would kick in and see your prostate cancer cells with their different DNA structure as "foreign bodies" and attack and destroy them. The difficulty arises with somebody with a compromised immune system. A heart transplant recipient for instance would constantly be on immuno-suppressant drugs and these in turn would prevent an immune response to foreign prostate cancer cells. Under these circumstances there would be a remote possibility that even a woman could develop prostate cancer. As there are instances of PCa recurring at 10 years or more there theoretically would always be a chance of it being "transmitted".
Bill

STW
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   Posted 7/2/2010 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
A man recently died from ovarian cancer. He was a organ recipient and an autopsy of the donor completed after the transplant showed she had cancer. The "low probability of transmission" killed the man. His family has filed a lawsuit. He was advised of the risk, took it, and lost.
Diagnosed at 54
PSA 8.7 Biopsy 1/7/09
4 of 6 cores positive, one at 90%
Gleason 3+4=7 Neg bone scan 1/15/09
One shot Lupron Depot 1/27/09 Tax Season
RP 4/29/09
Neg lymph nodes, postive seminal vesicle, 1 positive margin
Gleason 3+4=7 with tertiary 5 T3b
Catheter out at 2 weeks no nighttime incontinence Pad free week 5
PSA 6/6/09 <0.1; 9/10/09 <0.1; 3/11/10 <0.1


maldugs
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   Posted 7/2/2010 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Until I ever get to zero, I have Pca, that is a fact.


Regards Mal.
age 67 PSA 5.8 DRE slightly firm Rt
Biopsy 2nd July 07 5 out of 12 positive
Gleason 3+4=7 right side tumour adenocarcinoma stage T2a
RP on 30th July,

Post op Pathology, tumour stage T3a 4+3=7, microcsopic evidence of capsular penetration, seminal vessels, bladder neck,are free of tumour, lymph nodes clear, no evidence of metastatic malignancy, tumour does not extend to the apical margins.

Post op PSA 0.5 26th Sept. Totally dry since catheter removed
PSA 23rd Oct.0.5 seeing Radiation Onocologist 31st Oct.
Started radiation treatment on 5th Dec, to continue until 24 Jan. 08.
Finished treatment, next PSA on 30th April.
PSA 30th April 0.4
PSA 30th July 0.5
PSA 27th Oct 0.4 (I am now 68)
PSA 11th March 09 0.5
PSA 3rd August 09 0.6
PSA 25th November 09 0.6 (I am now 69)
PSA 18th Jan 10 0.6


Tudpock18
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   Posted 7/3/2010 7:08 AM (GMT -6)   

Interesting thread...for me it is definitely "had". 

Tudpock (Jim)


Age 62, Gleason 3 + 4 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2 of 16 cores cancerous, 27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 4/10/10.  6 month PSA 1.4 and now 1 year PSA at 1.0.  My docs are "delighted"!

cantexplain
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Date Joined Jun 2010
Total Posts : 74
   Posted 7/3/2010 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
 
I agree:  this is an interesting topic and thread:  and, there is no one answer.  Some on board here must answer "I have prostate cancer."  That would be the folks with a recent Dx,  those who practice AS, and those who's initial treatment didn't get it all.  For me, and forgive the hubris:  with a couple of consecutive "undetectables" and a positive pathology report I tell those who ask:  "I had prostate cancer, now I don't"  And then a little look in the mirror tells me, "but you might."  And, that's the feeling only members of this forum  can know.

Age at Dx:  56
DaVinci Prostatectomy:  10/28/98
Stage: T2C
Gleason - 3+4 = 7
Prosate:  52 grams
Incontinence - absolutely
ED - Indeed
Married, father of two (boys 18 and 17)
6 months later:  member of the "zero" club, working on one pad for 24 hours.  Took Cialis for 4 months (no apparent affect), just had my 1st tri-mix yesterday, that worked in spades!
All good here in San Diego

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