altitude affect incontinece?

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In This Together Wife
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   Posted 7/8/2010 6:35 AM (GMT -6)   
When we were camping (Oregon) we were in higher altitude Bear had incontinence issues he did not have before .  Even made a call to the doctor on the trip.  After we were home it cleared up. Is is possible it was the altitude?  Sounds weird, I know. . . it was not really cold so I don't think it was that.
(Bear's stats) Age 49
 8-4-09    Family Practioner for back pain  PSA 4.9
8-20-09  Consult with urologist                PSA 4.89
9-2-09    Biopsy          3 cores positive 7% 3+3 (6) gleason
11-13-09 DaVinci
11-23-09 Cath removed  Path report cancer contained neg. margins
 2-22-10  PSA 0.01 !!!


60Michael
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   Posted 7/8/2010 7:15 AM (GMT -6)   
There are likely no studies that suggest altitude plays a part in that, but you never know from one person to the next. You can do your own research and go camping again and if it still occurs you might be on to something. But I wouldnt give up the camping. Good luck.
Michael
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed, 61 yo 2010
Robotic surgery 5/09 Atlanta, Ga
Catheter out after 10 days
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
 started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
T2C left lateral and left posterior margins involved
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4, 6 1/2 month psa.5 on 11/28/10
Starting IMRT on 1/18/10, Completed 39 tx at 70 gys on 3/12/10
6 week Post IMRT PSA .44 a drop from .5 but maybe more
Great family and friends
Michael


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 7/8/2010 7:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Higher altitude means more pressure on everything.
 
Even potato chip bags can burst in shipment due to high pressure.
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
05/18/10 - 24 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


In This Together Wife
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   Posted 7/8/2010 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Michael, for the sake of science we will gladly take another vacation!
 
Steve--good thing our parts are made better than chip bags, don't want anything exploding!  haha
 
CareBear
(Bear's stats) Age 49
 8-4-09    Family Practioner for back pain  PSA 4.9
8-20-09  Consult with urologist                PSA 4.89
9-2-09    Biopsy          3 cores positive 7% 3+3 (6) gleason
11-13-09 DaVinci
11-23-09 Cath removed  Path report cancer contained neg. margins
 2-22-10  PSA 0.01 !!!


LV-TX
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   Posted 7/8/2010 7:50 AM (GMT -6)   
CareBear

Don't know the answer, but I agree...take another camping vacation for a second opinion.

BTW...he is less than a year out from surgery...he could be still recovering. Two years out for me and still have those dang episodes where I begin to leak and have no idea why. But then in a few days back to normal again.
You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral w/PNI - Gleason (3+3)6 Stage T1C
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (3+4) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
                   3 month Jan 2009     .06
                   6 month Apr 2009     .06
                   9 month Jul  2009     .08
                 12 month Oct 2009     .09 
                 18 month April 2010   .19


BobCape
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   Posted 7/8/2010 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi. I read the post wrong, thought is said "Attitude affect incontinence?"... My 1st impulse was to try and immediately be nicer to all those around me who support me and have to put up with me when I may not always be the funnest person to be around. My 2nd thought was that I KNOW incontinence affects attitude. Then I realized my mistake. Sorry.
First ever PSA test Jan 2010 @ 51 years old. 4.0.
Digital exam in March 2010 showed 1 side hard, other soft.
Biopsy, positive in 3 of 12.
Davinci @ Boston Medical Center, May 17, 2010.
Was suggested prior to it was likely contained.
June 1 advised 3+-4 was really 4+3 per pathology. Pos margins.
Catheter removed June 1.. 1 pad/day, doing ok. ED, but not in rush.
Sore as heck down there, but doing much walking with my wife.
To meet with my Uri (1st meeting since) June 17 - 1 mo point, to discuss.
BMC already has me setup to meet with radiology.
Felling a little better each day. Cant tell if my expectancy just went from 10-15 down to 5-7, the information out there appears to be all over the place. I WILL NOT radiate my insides to the point of being a veg for the sake of a few years. QOL is primary to me. Selfish I guess. I pray for all of you as I do for myself, but must remember that i've had a pretty good 50+ years, and know others who have lost their children to disease.. so I dont have the nerve to complain!


English Alf
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   Posted 7/8/2010 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Altitude = pressure, so what are the experiences of those who have been flying while having trouble with incontinece, given most passenger cabins on commercial flights are pressurized to about 85-90% of atmospheric pressure.

Alf
Age at Dx 48 No Family history of Prostate Cancer
Married 25 years, and I cannot thank my wife enough for her support.
April 2009: PSA 8.6 DRE: negative. Tumour in 2 out of 12 cores. Gleason 3+3.
RALP (nerve-sparing) at AVL-NKI Hospital Amsterdam on 29th July 2009. Stay 1 night.
Partial erections on while catheter still in. Catheter out on 6th Aug 2009.
Dry at night after catheter came out
Post-op Gleason 3+4. Tumour mainly in left near neck of bladder.
Left Seminal Vesicle invaded, (=T3b!)
no perineraul invasion, no vascular invasion. clear margins,
Erection 100% on 15th Aug 2009, but lots of leaking of urine
Stopped wearing pads on 21st Sept 2009
Pre-op style intercourse on 24th Oct 2009 !! No use of tablets, jabs, VED etc. but...
Nov 17th 2009 PSA = 0.1
Can still get erections okay, and almost no leaking of urine, but since December 2009 I don't have orgasms, instead I just have intense pain in place where prostate used to be.
Mar 17th 2010 PSA = 0.4!!! referred to radiation therapist
April 13th 2010 CT scan.
April 28th 2010 Started Radiation Therapy (66Gy - 33 sessions)
June 11th 2010 finished RT - main side effect tiredness, but also the occasional small leak
June 27th My 50th Birthday - feeling better but still not 100% okay


Worried Guy
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   Posted 7/8/2010 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Nope. We can consider ourselves a pressure balanced vessel.

Early on in my incontinence journey, I asked a similar question about this and got some great answers. Enjoy! Click the link below:

Incontinence - Physics Question

Incontinence is affected by extra activity, more walking , more lifting, less frequent runs to the toilet, and fewer naps during the day. All of which you most likely experienced while on vacation.

Jeff (the still leaking one)
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 3+4=7, 3+3=6. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day. Try controlling fluids.
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. There must be another issue. Uro mtg 4/23.
5/22/10 10 months: 2 pads per day, 190 ml/day Scope on June 15 Short sphincter
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05, 4/14 9 months - 0.04 and <0.01 with ECLIA.

Post Edited (Worried Guy) : 7/8/2010 3:18:09 PM (GMT-6)


In This Together Wife
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   Posted 7/8/2010 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Bobcape--that is too funny :)
Worried guy--thanks for the link: gotta love the brotherhood here-they are a blast
CareBear
(Bear's stats) Age 49
 8-4-09    Family Practioner for back pain  PSA 4.9
8-20-09  Consult with urologist                PSA 4.89
9-2-09    Biopsy          3 cores positive 7% 3+3 (6) gleason
11-13-09 DaVinci
11-23-09 Cath removed  Path report cancer contained neg. margins
 2-22-10  PSA 0.01 !!!


Worried Guy
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   Posted 7/8/2010 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
ITT Wife
I reread that whole topic and had a good laugh. That was almost a year ago, 4 weeks after my surgery.
Can you see why I love these guys? It sure worked for me.
Jeff

RCS
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   Posted 7/9/2010 6:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Worried Guy
 
I really enjoyed that thread ... priceless ... got anymore?
 
Thanks!
PSA 2007 - 2.8
PSA 11/24/2008 - 7.6
Pc Dx 2/11/09; age at Dx 62
RLP 4/20/09
Biopsy -  Invasive moderately differentiated prostatic andenocarconoma; G 3+3=6; PT2C; No evidence of Seminal Vesicle or Extraprostatic Involvement; Margins clear; Tumor identified in sections from prostatic apex.
70 gram prostate.
Immediately continent after removal of cath.
ED - Trimix works well; viagra @ 60%
PSA - 7/31/09 <0.06
PSA - 12/1/09 <0.06
PSA - 3/29/10 <0.06
 
 
 


Ziggy9
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   Posted 7/9/2010 8:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve n Dallas said...
Higher altitude means more pressure on everything.


Even potato chip bags can burst in shipment due to high pressure.


Actually it's because it's lower pressure at high altitude while the bag was sealed under higher pressure at lower altitudes.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 -
April 2009 12 of 12 Negative Biopsy
 
2/16/10 12 of 12 Negative Biopsy 
 
 
 

Post Edited (realziggy) : 7/9/2010 7:33:29 AM (GMT-6)


Worried Guy
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   Posted 7/9/2010 11:29 AM (GMT -6)   
RCS,
I don't mean to hijack this thread but, yes, I did start other topics relating to our situation.

Here's one that is Energy related:

Standby power for Leakers

There were quite few others.

Enjoy - I sure did.

Jeff (I am at 1/4 of the leak rate I was then - Yay!)
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