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dogbot
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   Posted 7/26/2010 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I am now 14 months out from the op and ED is still an ongoing problem, but I can achieve some stiffness without medical help. The thing that I worry about is the release of urine on orgasm. This happens every time with some force. I urinate before so my bladder is empty but still pass approx 50 ml. I realise the muscles have been altered and traumatised by the op, but I had hoped that the problem would have resolved by now.
My day to day continence is about 99.9% with a very occassional stress dribble which is hardly enough to dampen underwear. 
I would like to hear comments from fellow members about this.
 
All the best from England.
Diagnosed February 2009. Gleason 6, Psa 7.2, 12 core biopsy, and then Mri scan, which showed organ specific.
DaVinci at Addenbrookes, Cambridge, England 18th May 2009.  Nerves removed one side.
Catheter in for 8 days, no pain, no post op problems apart from an infection, cleared with antibiotics.
Some aching around the penis, which still occurs.
6 week psa 0.1, post op pathology all good, confirming pre op tests. Ed a problem, no treatment as yet.
Light ladies pad during the day, just to control a slight dampness and a Tena for  men pad at night for occassional leakage.
Awaiting 3 month consultation at the moment.
Sept 09 - still awaiting consultation. 99% dry during the day, tena pad at night just in case.
Sept 18th 09. PSA less than 0.1
Sept 29th follow up consultation at Addenbrookes. Staff happy with progress.
Nov 11th update. One small stress dribble in the last 2 months. Still some muscle stiffness in pelvic area.
March 20th psa less than 0.1 Very occassional stress dribble. No pads for several months.
 


NY-Sooner
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   Posted 7/26/2010 7:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Join the club!  I am 3 years post op and I ejeculate urine with such force that I can hit the ceiling on a good orgasm. I ejeculate urine with more force now without a prostate, then I ejeculated seman with my prostate. 
 
I am one of the lucky ones who had absolutely no ED problems after surgery, and I can get a full rock solid erection without drugs.   What is frustrating is that as soon as I start getting sexually aroused, I will start to feel my splinkter muscle relax and I will start to drip uncontrollably. Even if I empty my bladder before sex, I will still drip a little and still will ejeculate urine.
 
My uro told me that urine ejeculation is a side effect of prostate surgery that surgeons don't tell you about, and you just have to learn to live with it. He told me that urine is sterile and will not hurt your partner if you get some in her, but just try telling that to a woman! 
 
 I foun that the best thing I can do is if I know I am going to have sex, I will drink a lot of water and stay away from coffee or soda. The water dilutes the urine and eliminates the smell.  Also, I find that if I have an orgasm while on my back and the woman on top, I ejeculate far less urine, and sometime none at all.  I figure that in this position, the urine lays in the bottom of the bladder stays away from the ureatha, and thus doesn't get ejeculated during orgasm.
 
Age 56, Biopsy 6/2007 - PSA 4.5, 2 of 12 with  <5% cancer Gleason 6
Surgery 9/2007 Strong Memorial,  Rochester  NY with Dr. Jean Joseph (1300 plus surgeries)
 Path - Negative margins, cancer in 20% examined tissue, Gleason 6
 Post Op - No ED issues, full erections without drugs,  used 5-7 pads a day for 3 months. Now dry except for stress leaks now and then.
 All post op psa's <.04


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 7/26/2010 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Wouldnt using a "rubber" help, or are you ejaculating more urine than one could hold?
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19


NY-Sooner
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Date Joined Sep 2009
Total Posts : 464
   Posted 7/26/2010 10:17 AM (GMT -6)   
In my case, I ejeculate more urine than a condom will hold, but what is worst, if I had to wear a condom, I would loose the erection almost immediately.  In my case I can get an erection easy, but only with a lot of stimulation. With a condom I would not feel anything and loose the erection.

 
Age 56, Biopsy 6/2007 - PSA 4.5, 2 of 12 with  <5% cancer Gleason 6
Surgery 9/2007 Strong Memorial,  Rochester  NY with Dr. Jean Joseph (1300 plus surgeries)
 Path - Negative margins, cancer in 20% examined tissue, Gleason 6
 Post Op - No ED issues, full erections without drugs,  used 5-7 pads a day for 3 months. Now dry except for stress leaks now and then.
 All post op psa's <.04


Steve n Dallas
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 4849
   Posted 7/26/2010 10:43 AM (GMT -6)   
I go through phases where I'll get a little squire of urine. I almost get the feeling with a little extra mind effort - I can tell myself to not squirt.
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
05/18/10 - 24 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 7/26/2010 11:23 AM (GMT -6)   
that makes sense about the condom part, didnt think of that. sounds like it would be a very annoying problem, not sure of a solution.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19


Worried Guy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 3743
   Posted 7/26/2010 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Guys,
You know I am a total leaker when upright and moving. But when I am on my back, even when I orgasm, I don't squirt - thankfully.

I have found that water will pass through my system in about 1 hour - 1.5 hours max. So, if I am going to do something. I drink at least 1.5 hours before the event. I pee while taking the shower (no surprise there) and really empty myself. There is very little urine production after that.

NY-Sooner I think you should enter yourself on "America's Got Talent". Not many guys have that ability.
Jeff (the GFMPH leaking one)
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 3+4=7, 3+3=6. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day. Try controlling fluids.
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. "There must be another issue."
5/22/10 10 months: 2 pads per day, 190 ml/day Scope on June 15 "Short sphincter"
7/15/2010 one year: 2 pads per day. 140 ml/day, dry in bed.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05,
4/14 9 months - 0.04 (Siemens Centaur) and <0.01 (Roche ECLIA).
7/12 1 year - 0.03 (Siemens Centaur, direct chemilum); <0.01 (Roche Cobas 601 ECLIA)


dogbot
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Date Joined Aug 2009
Total Posts : 147
   Posted 7/27/2010 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Too much urine for a condom to hold, I think the force would blow it off ! Good idea about lying on back, will give that a try.  I`m sure the problem is the sphincter at the bladder opening not working or not there at all after prostate removal.
 
All the best from England.
 
 
Diagnosed February 2009. Gleason 6, Psa 7.2, 12 core biopsy, and then Mri scan, which showed organ specific.
DaVinci at Addenbrookes, Cambridge, England 18th May 2009.  Nerves removed one side.
Catheter in for 8 days, no pain, no post op problems apart from an infection, cleared with antibiotics.
Some aching around the penis, which still occurs.
6 week psa 0.1, post op pathology all good, confirming pre op tests. Ed a problem, no treatment as yet.
Light ladies pad during the day, just to control a slight dampness and a Tena for  men pad at night for occassional leakage.
Awaiting 3 month consultation at the moment.
Sept 09 - still awaiting consultation. 99% dry during the day, tena pad at night just in case.
Sept 18th 09. PSA less than 0.1
Sept 29th follow up consultation at Addenbrookes. Staff happy with progress.
Nov 11th update. One small stress dribble in the last 2 months. Still some muscle stiffness in pelvic area.
March 20th psa less than 0.1 Very occassional stress dribble. No pads for several months.
 


Ricky2
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Date Joined Dec 2009
Total Posts : 97
   Posted 7/27/2010 3:41 PM (GMT -6)   
As I understand how it works is that when you had a prostate, you had 2 sphincters, one between the bladder and the prostate and one after the prostate. During orgasm the sphincter between the bladder and prostate tighten up and the lower sphincter relaxed. When they removed the prostate they took out that sphincter between your prostate and bladder and you are now left with the downstream sphincter. Your brain has to be trained to tighten that sphincter during orgasm rather relax it. The problem is how do you train your brain to control that sphincter during orgasm. If anyone has an idea...let me know.]
Age 70

PSA 5/2008- 3.6, PSA 7/2009- 6.1, retested 9/2009-5.1.
Biopsy 9/2009. 4 of 12 positive. Gleason 3+4=7
CT and bone scan negative.
Robotic De Vince Surgery 10/29/2009. 1 night in hospital. No pain. Cath out on 11/6
Pathology Report: Gleason score 3+4. Margins slightly involved <.1mm to .25mm. Perineural invasion present, stage pT2c. Tumor 18%. Seminal Vesicle - absent, Lymph Nodes 0 of 6.
Continence- first 4 weeks after cath out Dry at night, rest of time, bladder held nothing. 6-7 pads per day. as of 12/30 no pads most of time. almost dry except for a few drips. I keep doing Kegels.
ED. Started VED on 12/17/2009. Every other day for 15 min. Cialis .20 mm twice a week
PSA 02/08/2010 <.1
02/22/10 Trimex injection .2ml less than 50% just a little discomfort.
PSA 05/14/2010 <.1
ED still no natural erection at 5/14/2010. Trimex at .5 cc gives 80% erection..urn to increase potency of trimex..pg to .45.


April6th
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Date Joined May 2010
Total Posts : 264
   Posted 7/29/2010 9:45 PM (GMT -6)   
The only thing I can add is to avoid asparagus if you think you are going to get lucky.

Dan
Here are some of my stats:
Age:54
Father diagnosed with PC at age 72 - wasn't contained to prostate when found in 1992.
My PSA rose from 3.2 to 5.1 over the course of 1.5 years with Free PSA at 25% for the last two tests.
DRE showed no evidence of tumor but Uro thought my prostate was a little large for someone my age
PCa diagnosed 4/6/10 after biopsy on 4/1/10
1 out of 12 biopsy samples was positive with 5% of biopsy sample cancerous
Gleason 3+4
Da Vinci surgery on 6/1/10
Pathology report shows cancer confined to prostate and all other tissue clean
PSA 7/15/10 Zero Club membership card issued (trial membership with 90 day renewal)

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