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geezer99
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   Posted 7/27/2010 6:29 AM (GMT -6)   
I know that many members are interested in the role of good nutrition in combating cancer.. This article in today’s New York Times suggests that many people have a vitamin D deficiency.
www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/health/27brod.html?_r=1&ref=health

As always, it is best to discuss .all medications and supplements with your doctor. Based on my internist’s advice, I take 1,000 I.U. of vitamin D-3 each day.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day
9 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day ED remains
12 mo. PSA 0.00 -- still one light pad and ED
16 mo PSA 0.00 -- light pad just for security, ED still an issue


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 7/27/2010 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I love the ol debate about vitamin D...Many docs say standing outside in the sun for ten minutes is all you need...And don't worry about skin cancer while you're out there....
Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
05/18/10 - 24 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve, that was actually what my current radiation oncologist said about the entire Vit D debate, ,simply to have 10-15 minutes of outdoor exposure per day when possible, and it doesn't have to be a clear sunny day to get the same effect. She said they does more natural good for you than all the Vit D tablets. And you won't just be peeing it out of your body.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19


BB_Fan
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I think that's it's like anything else. If you are deficient, or not where you want to be, with the sun exposure that you get or are comfortable with then you take a suppliment to get there. My Vit D level was 45 at my last test. Deficiency is 30 or less. Although I am not deficient, I would like to get to 70-100 so I am taking 2000 IU a day to get there.
Dx with PC Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4


Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4) - 8 cores taken with 4 positive for PCa, 30% of all 4 cores.

Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive - tumor volume 9%
nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery

One night in hospital, back to work in 3 weeks

psa Jun 09 <.01
psa Oct 09 <.01
psa Jan 10 .07 re-test one week later .05
psa Mar 10 .28 re-test two weeks later .31
psa May 10  .50

Aril 10 MRI and Bone Scan show lesion on lower spine, false positive. 
 
Started HT 5/25/10 with 3 month shot of Trelstar. SRT scheduled for late July


medved
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:57 AM (GMT -6)   
My Vit D tests have been 35 and 37. A few months ago, I began taking 3,000 i.u. per day. I did this based on some general advice Dr. Strum has provided about optimal Vit D levels. However, to show how unclear all this is, I note the following quote from:

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/prevention/vitamin-D

'In one relatively large study of men diagnosed 1 to 8 years after their blood was drawn, higher vitamin D blood levels were not associated with a lower risk of prostate cancer overall (22). Indeed, there was some evidence that men with higher vitamin D levels had an increased risk for aggressive disease (22).'
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 7/27/2010 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Living in the desert southwest, naturally delivered by the sun, vitamin D is plentiful. For those living in higher latitudes ,not so much so. It truly matters where you live and how much sun you get that can drive deficiency in vitamin D.

Vitamin D3 is absolutely important to a prostate cancer patient. If not against the disease, but for all of it's other benefits ~ bone health, dietary health, etc.

Tony
Disease:
Advanced Prostate Cancer at age 44 (I am 48 now)
pT3b,N0,Mx (original PSA was 19.8) EPE, PM, SVI. Gleason 4+3=7

Treatments:
RALP ~ 2/17/2007 at the City of Hope near Los Angeles.
Adjuvant Radiation Therapy ~ IMRT Completed 8/07
Adjuvant Hormone Therapy ~ 28 months on Casodex and Lupron.

Status:
"I beat up this disease and took its lunch money! I am in remission."
I am currently not being treated, but I do have regular oncology visits.
I am the president of an UsTOO chapter in Las Vegas

Blog : www.caringbridge.org/visit/tonycrispino


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/27/2010 10:06 AM (GMT -6)   
BB: If deficency is 30 or less, and you are at 45, which is 150% over deficency, then why would you want to be at 70-100? What would the higher level do for you, and is more better? Certainly not going to hurt anything doing that, but trying to understand your reasoning.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19


Arnie
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   Posted 7/27/2010 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
David........just like a lot of ranges for markers, the "normal" range is not necessarily "optimal" for all people. I've been wrestling with Low T, Low Vitamin D-3, low ferritin, etc.
What I've been able to learn is that D-3 is not a vitamin at all, but a pre or prohormone, and necessary for not only all the usual things listed, but hormone production as well. I just started the 50K IU p/week protocol referenced in the NY Times article in an effort to get the D-3 levels up into at least the mid-range...60-70. I started at 25, then after 8 months of 1000IU p/day supplementation, I came up to 36. Still quite low............I and the pros I'm working with are confident that with proper D-3, iron and zinc levels, we may not have to cross the controversial Testosterone bridge. And, if we do, I'll be that much further down the road if I stay undetectable. ----------as I get a handle on this, and am further into "treatment", I'll keep you all posted on this.
 
Arnie in DE
Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)
PSA at Diagnosis-3.9
Biposy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3)
 
Surgery 1/26/09-DaVinci Robotic Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA
Dr. David Lee
 
Pathology Report- Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins, Gleason 7 (3+4), Stage T2C, NO MX, Prostate 61.8 grams, gland involvement 2-10%
 
Catheter removed after 8 days, totally dry at 3 months. ED issues continue, Viagra (via ADC) nightly (100mgs), VED use in earnest at 6 months. "Ball Park Frank" plumping at this point......ED at 10 months continues to improve, albeit slowly. Continued daily use of 100mg Viagra (ADC). Discontinued pump use; manual stimulation to varying states of erections; achieved penetratable erection on a couple of occasions----At 13 months, nocturnal erections are frequent. Still taking 100mg of ADC Viagra nightly. Libido still in the dumper, but working on it with doctors.
3 month PSA--<0.1
6 month PSA--<0.1
10 month PSA--<0.1
13 monthPSA--<0.1
18 month PSA--<0.1


medved
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   Posted 7/27/2010 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Dr. Strum suggested aiming for a level of 80 ng/ml, as part of an effort to minimize risk of prostate cancer. I cannot explain why he recommends that, when the lab's "reference range" is 30+. But I assume Strum's advice is probably better, from a prostate cancer prevention perspective, than relying solely on a lab's reference range.
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 


el perro
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   Posted 7/27/2010 1:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I think the 70-100 range is recommended by Dr. Myers. I'm not sure of all the science behind his recommendation.

I spend a fair amount of time outdoors in the southern US (without sunscreen, usually) and my vitamin D level was low 30's when first tested last July. I've gotten it to 70 on the last test (in early spring) with supplements, so the pills have worked for me to get the serum level up. Big question is whether it really impacts progression of the cancer.

BTW, Myers recommends taking vit D with a large meal, but not with oatmeal.
Dx 11/2008, Gleason 3+3
Active surveillance for now


Ricky2
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   Posted 7/27/2010 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
My level of v D was 30. Started taking supplement of D3 and last time tested was 48. doubled dose to 4000 I.U. to see if it will get reading up to 70. there is some pretty strong evidence out there that vit D level does make a difference in a lot of things and PC. It would see how many PC patients have low v d.

Ricky2
Age 70

PSA 5/2008- 3.6, PSA 7/2009- 6.1, retested 9/2009-5.1.
Biopsy 9/2009. 4 of 12 positive. Gleason 3+4=7
CT and bone scan negative.
Robotic De Vince Surgery 10/29/2009. 1 night in hospital. No pain. Cath out on 11/6
Pathology Report: Gleason score 3+4. Margins slightly involved <.1mm to .25mm. Perineural invasion present, stage pT2c. Tumor 18%. Seminal Vesicle - absent, Lymph Nodes 0 of 6.
Continence- first 4 weeks after cath out Dry at night, rest of time, bladder held nothing. 6-7 pads per day. as of 12/30 no pads most of time. almost dry except for a few drips. I keep doing Kegels.
ED. Started VED on 12/17/2009. Every other day for 15 min. Cialis .20 mm twice a week
PSA 02/08/2010 <.1
02/22/10 Trimex injection .2ml less than 50% just a little discomfort.
PSA 05/14/2010 <.1
ED still no natural erection at 5/14/2010. Trimex at .5 cc gives 80% erection..urn to increase potency of trimex..pg to .45.


medved
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   Posted 7/27/2010 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you guys who take 3000 iu or 4000 iu or more of Vitamin D3 per day get regular tests of serum calcium levels? Do your docs recommend that, to monitor agains the risk of hypercalcemia?
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 


RCS
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   Posted 7/27/2010 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on 5,000 IU/day of D3 for all of the reasons stated above.  There's a lot of information on Vitamin D at the Vitamin D Council website:
 
 
PSA 11/24/2008 - 7.6
Pc Dx 2/11/09; age at Dx 62
RLP 4/20/09
Biopsy -  Invasive moderately differentiated prostatic andenocarconoma; G 3+3=6; PT2C; No evidence of Seminal Vesicle or Extraprostatic Involvement; Margins clear; Tumor identified in sections from prostatic apex.
70 gram prostate.
Immediately continent after removal of cath.
ED - Trimix works well; viagra @ 70%
PSA - 7/31/09 <0.06
PSA - 12/1/09 <0.06
PSA - 3/29/10 <0.06
 
 
 


Sephie
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   Posted 7/28/2010 5:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Vitamin D deficiency is nothing new, especially for those who live in the Northeast U.S. During the Spring and Summer months, not as much of a problem because we have more hours of daylight and spend more of our time outdoors. My doctor checks my D levels in November and I tend to be borderline so she recommended a supplement of 1,000 IU each day. This is in addition to the calcium +D that I take twice a day and the multivitamin which also has D in it. As with so many things, there is a double edged sword buried in here. As Arnie pointed out, vitamin D helps in the production of hormones. Now, for a man (especially one diagnosed with PCa) that may be a good thing but for some women, not necessarily so since increased hormones (especially post menopausal) may lead to breast or uterine problems. The same is true for soy-based products...good for the heart but may cause problems for those with a history of breast disease. A case in point is a woman I worked with who was diagnosed with breast cancer in her early 40s. She is a big believer in organic, natural foods and started using soy-based products to avoid animal proteins. During a consult with her oncologist, she revealed this to him and got a big "no no" because her disease happened to be estrogen positive and the soy would feed the estrogen levels in her body. Another friend was diagnosed with uterine cancer and was using a meal replacement program utilizing soy protein. She too was told to lighten up on soy - too much is not necessarily a good thing.

I am not against vitamin/mineral supplements but am against self-prescribing them. The use of supplements - especially the dosage - is not something to be taken lightly as there are many that can create severe problems depending on health conditions (vitamin K is one of those that can be very bad for some people). Vitamin/mineral supplementation is not a one size fits all situation - what works for one person may be harmful to another.

Medved, you state that Dr. Strum recommends having a blood level of 80 ng. of D to minimize risk of prostate cancer. It would seem to me that this could work as a preventative measure - e.g., for those guys who do not have prostate cancer. Does he recommend this for men who have already been diagnosed and are working to avoid a recurrence of the disease?
Husband diagnosed in 2/2008 at age 57 with stage T1c. Robotic surgery performed 3/2008. Stage upgraded to T3a (solitary focus of extraprostatic extension). Perineural tumor infiltration present. Apex margin, bladder neck and SVs negative. Final Gleason 3+4. PSA: 0.0 til July 2009. August 2009 - 0.1, September 0.3, October back to 0.0, December 0.0, March 2010 0.0. Next PSA in 6 months. Thank you God!


medved
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   Posted 7/28/2010 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Sephie - I do not know the answer to your question. I posed the question to Dr. Strum in terms of prevention, and it was in that context that he recommended aiming for a Vit. D blood level of 80 ng/ml. My guess is he would recommend something similar for people who have already been diagnosed with prostate cancer. But it is not a good idea to guess about such things....
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/28/2010 8:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Sephie,

You gave a great answer, and I will add to yours, it can be downright dangerous to "self supplement" yourself. There are plenty of vitamins and supplements that can decrease the effectivness of prescribed meds. Before a person goes that route, I thik they should sit down with their GP if they have one, or doctor, and make sure that any prescription meds wont be interfered with the supplements. Also on supplements, some of these mega doses that people take can cause problems and create medical issues. Needs to be done hand in hand with a good doctor.

David in SC
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19


Arnie
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   Posted 7/28/2010 10:46 AM (GMT -6)   

Hey guys...........just for the record, I am working with my doctor on the vitamins/supplements. I thought the 50K D-3 supplement was going to be lead balloon proposition when I discussed it with him. Instead, he wrote a script (doesn't actually require one) w/o blinking. The more I find out about these things, the more I realize a bunch of us may be over-medicated, and undersupplemented. But bottom line, I agree----check with your GP or specialist before embarking on any regimen. But as an example of the reverse, how the meds interfere with the supplements, I've been taking Omeprazole(Prilosec) for a couple of years per doctor's (Gastro) orders. I now find out I'm also very low in iron/ferritin----guess what?------Omeprazole impedes the absorption of iron. Combine that with being a non-red meat eater, and you have a recipe for a path to anemia.

Arnie (your guinea pig) in DE

 


Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)
PSA at Diagnosis-3.9
Biposy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3)
 
Surgery 1/26/09-DaVinci Robotic Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA
Dr. David Lee
 
Pathology Report- Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins, Gleason 7 (3+4), Stage T2C, NO MX, Prostate 61.8 grams, gland involvement 2-10%
 
Catheter removed after 8 days, totally dry at 3 months. ED issues continue, Viagra (via ADC) nightly (100mgs), VED use in earnest at 6 months. "Ball Park Frank" plumping at this point......ED at 10 months continues to improve, albeit slowly. Continued daily use of 100mg Viagra (ADC). Discontinued pump use; manual stimulation to varying states of erections; achieved penetratable erection on a couple of occasions----At 13 months, nocturnal erections are frequent. Still taking 100mg of ADC Viagra nightly. Libido still in the dumper, but working on it with doctors.
3 month PSA--<0.1
6 month PSA--<0.1
10 month PSA--<0.1
13 monthPSA--<0.1
18 month PSA--<0.1


logoslidat
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   Posted 7/28/2010 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I get 1000 iu of vit d from multi vit + I chew 1200IU from tablet D3. Whats the difference tween D and D3. Also live in Hawaii, active outdoors, hope its not too much. I get skin cancer check every 6 mos.
age 67 First psa 4/17/09 psa 8.3, 7/27/09 psa 8.1
8/12/09 biopsy 6 out of 12 pos 2-70%, rest <5% 3+3
10/19/09 open rrp U of Washington Medical Center, left bundle spared
10/30/09 catheter out. continent from the jump.
pathology- prostate confined, only thing positive was the report.everything else negative
9% of prostate affected. gleason 3+4, I suppose thats a negative
After reading pathology myself, gleason was 3+4 with tertiary 5, 2-3 foci, extensive PNI, That is a negative, but I am a positive !!
Ed an issue but keeping the blood flowing with the osbon pump
Dec 14,2009 psa 0.0 May 10 2010, psa 0.0

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medved
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   Posted 7/28/2010 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Vitimin D comes in two forms -- D2 (ergocalciferol) and D3 (cholecalciferol). There is substantial support for the proposition that D3 is better than D2, as a supplement. One article discussing this is linked below. There are many others.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/84/4/694

I have also read that Vitamin D may be better absorbed when it is taken in an oil base, rather than "Dry Vitamin D," and that it is preferable to take Vitaimin D with a meal rather than on an empty stomach. I am not certain of these things, though.

I guess living in Hawaii must be good for your health too -- from a Vitamin D perspective, and in many other ways.
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 


Sephie
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   Posted 7/28/2010 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Logo, lucky you living in Hawaii! Good on you that you get a skin cancer check every 6 months...any particular reason for this (past/family history)? about 7 years ago, I went to the dermatologist to have some "things" on my back checked out. They were fine (keratoses or age spots). After the derm was through checking my back, I turned around to talk to him and he stopped me mid sentence, pointed to my right clavicle (collarbone) and said "what's that?" I looked down and said "oh that...my bra strap rubs against that spot and it gets a bit irritated." He looked at me like I had 19 heads, said "I'll bet you a dollar that's basal cell skin cancer", took a biopsy, and sure enough I have a scar about 2 inches long where the skin cancer was removed. Since then I have annual check ups. Hate to wear sunscreen on a daily basis but do wear it when I'm out for extended periods of time in the sun.

Sorry to highjack this thread with "another" cancer...back to our regular programming.
Husband diagnosed in 2/2008 at age 57 with stage T1c. Robotic surgery performed 3/2008. Stage upgraded to T3a (solitary focus of extraprostatic extension). Perineural tumor infiltration present. Apex margin, bladder neck and SVs negative. Final Gleason 3+4. PSA: 0.0 til July 2009. August 2009 - 0.1, September 0.3, October back to 0.0, December 0.0, March 2010 0.0. Next PSA in 6 months. Thank you God!


logoslidat
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   Posted 7/30/2010 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Sephie, No family history, but not much sun screen either, some but should use more and I am out in the sun alot, just love the water. Lucky for you it was basel cell and you had an alert doc. Skin cancer can be deadly. Think I'll go put some more sunscreen on. Blessings!!!
age 67 First psa 4/17/09 psa 8.3, 7/27/09 psa 8.1
8/12/09 biopsy 6 out of 12 pos 2-70%, rest <5% 3+3
10/19/09 open rrp U of Washington Medical Center, left bundle spared
10/30/09 catheter out. continent from the jump.
pathology- prostate confined, only thing positive was the report.everything else negative
9% of prostate affected. gleason 3+4, I suppose thats a negative
After reading pathology myself, gleason was 3+4 with tertiary 5, 2-3 foci, extensive PNI, That is a negative, but I am a positive !!
Ed an issue but keeping the blood flowing with the osbon pump
Dec 14,2009 psa 0.0 May 10 2010, psa 0.0

" Hypocrisy is vice's homage to Virtue " Francois de la Rochefoucauld, source courtesy of Tatt2

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