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thejum57
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been searching around the forum for info on inexpensive pumps. There are TONS of posts. I'd like to get to the gist of things. Any recomedations for and over the counter pumps? My Dr. wrote a RX for the Osbin. I've had a ridiculis time getting it filled. Best case senerio is $350.00 out of pocket. I was told I should only have to spend about $100.00 from the Doc. nono I'm living in MA. if thet makes any difference. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks, Jim

Purgatory
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I believe that some of the guys will tell you to buy an inexpensive one from an Adult Toy Store. Much cheaper, and from what they say, it will do the job.

David
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19


Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I bought the "Encore" battery operated for around $100. The manual one may be cheaper.
It works fine for me.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm in circumference.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 5 months
2 months PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1
8 months PSA test 10/9/09 result <0.1
11 months PSA test 1/21/10 result 0.004
14 months PSA test 4/19/10 result 0.005


142
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   Posted 7/28/2010 12:11 AM (GMT -6)   
I appealed the denial from my ins. and got the osborn covered, at least in writing. Still waiting for the claim and check.

hb2006
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Total Posts : 299
   Posted 7/28/2010 8:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I used one from a sex shop for awhile. The problem with them is that they wear out very quickly. I would search more on the internet
Age 60, PSA 2007 4.1, PSA 2008 10.0
Diagnosed April 2008, Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
CT and Bone Scan negative, Open surgery at Shawnee Mission Medical Center May 21, 2008
Right side nerves spared, Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Cather removed on June 3rd, totally dry on July 9th, pT2c, lymph nodes negative
PSA Sept 28, 2008 0.00, PSA Jan 22, 2009 0.00, PSA June 29, 2009 0.00
PSA Sept 2009 0.00, PSA Dec 21, 2009 0.02, PSA March 29, 2010 0.03
ED Status- Currently using Trimix, Levitra daily for increased blood flow.
Noctural Erections have completely returned on a nightly basis, same hardness as before.
Stopped the injections except for "Fun" weekends. Really don't need them anymore.


Paul1959
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   Posted 7/28/2010 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
www.noogleberry.com Is a GREAT pump. It is from England, but shipping is NO problem at all. Take a look. If you mention the code "Franktalk" you will get 10% off.

these are just as good as any of the medical pumps here, but a fraction of the price. This doctor manufactures them himself. really good guy.
Paul
www.franktalk.org ED website for PCa guys

46 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
10/07 PSA 5.06 (Biopsy 11/07 1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report: Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.) Never a problem since.
ED - at one year, ED is fine with viagra.
Two year PSA - undetectable!


logoslidat
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   Posted 7/28/2010 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't know all your ages but medicare covers the osbon.
age 67 First psa 4/17/09 psa 8.3, 7/27/09 psa 8.1
8/12/09 biopsy 6 out of 12 pos 2-70%, rest <5% 3+3
10/19/09 open rrp U of Washington Medical Center, left bundle spared
10/30/09 catheter out. continent from the jump.
pathology- prostate confined, only thing positive was the report.everything else negative
9% of prostate affected. gleason 3+4, I suppose thats a negative
After reading pathology myself, gleason was 3+4 with tertiary 5, 2-3 foci, extensive PNI, That is a negative, but I am a positive !!
Ed an issue but keeping the blood flowing with the osbon pump
Dec 14,2009 psa 0.0 May 10 2010, psa 0.0

" Hypocrisy is vice's homage to Virtue " Francois de la Rochefoucauld, source courtesy of Tatt2


grok1955
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Date Joined Jul 2010
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   Posted 7/29/2010 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I have the osborn and the shaft developed a hair line crack and a slight leak - very expensive to replace. I use a $25 version from the adult book store and it is much better than those expensive "medical" pumps. There are also different attachments you can buy for the bottom contact point with your skin. I highly recommend shaving the shaft and base and keeping trim elsewhere else to get a good seal.

By the way, introducing the pump into the bedroom was a bit ackward at first but once, after I got my erection, I used it on her breasts and vagina and then performed oral and the pump is now a very welcome partner in our playtime.

Age:              54 at surgery (DOB 1955)

Married:        Yes  (31 years)

Gleason:        3+3

Surgery:         Davinci on 06-25-2009, catheter out July 6, 2009

Continancy:   Only some Stress wetness in first months.  No pads since

PSA (post):     Below .10 since surgery

Erection:         1 month :  Pump was effective for intercourse but not satisfying

                       3 months:  Pump with Viagra, Levitra, Cialis (LVC) was better but not much

                       6 months:  Alprostadil (0.6cc) with pump with inconsistent results

                       9 months:  Alprostadil (1.0cc)with pump and LVC was better but inconsistent results

                       12 months:  TRiMix(0.4cc)/Pump/LVC and WOW “Return of the Light Saber”, life is good

                       100% erection for over 2 hours, 85% for another hour or so.  FUN FUN FUN


Worried Guy
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   Posted 7/29/2010 11:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to Healing well.

There are many discussions about this on the website franktalk.org
It looks like you can get a reasonable one for about $30. I think the name is Fireman's friend or something similar. I have used an expensive one (Augusta) for a year now and it shows no signs of breaking down. Mine is not battery operated. It is manually pumped. That way at least one part of my body gets some exercise.
Jeff
Married 34 years, DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8, 09: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis. May '09 PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, 20%-70%, Gleason 3+4=7, 3+3=6. Bone and C/T scans neg.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm, location: both lobes and apex.
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive.
No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11. No effect with 20 mg of Cialis or 100 mg of Viagra. Shots next See Uro 1/22/10 Trimix #1. Try 0.08- 25%, 0.12-25%, 2/26/10 try 0.16 First Success! 90%.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day. Try controlling fluids.
12/11/09 5 months: 3 pads per day, 400-450ml/day
02/26/10 7 months: 3 pads but leak is now 320 ml (5 day avg.)
03/22/10 8 months: 3 pads per day, 280 ml/day (5 day avg.) PT says all muscles are tight and working properly. "There must be another issue."
5/22/10 10 months: 2 pads per day, 190 ml/day Scope on June 15 "Short sphincter"
7/15/2010 one year: 2 pads per day. 140 ml/day, dry in bed.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04, 1/14 6 months - 0.05,
4/14 9 months - 0.04 (Siemens Centaur) and <0.01 (Roche ECLIA).
7/12 1 year - 0.03 (Siemens Centaur, direct chemilum); <0.01 (Roche Cobas 601 ECLIA)


MrGimpy
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 504
   Posted 7/29/2010 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Go with the cheaper version of the Osbin Erecaid Esteem Manual. my Ins covered 80%
Stats:
Age: 52, PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on 01/09/09, Gleason Score = 3+3
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Post Op Path 3+3
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, <0.01 - 3 months post-op
PSA 1/10 undetectable, <0.01 - 9 months post-op
Trimix provides 100% erectile function


thejum57
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Date Joined Aug 2005
Total Posts : 5
   Posted 7/29/2010 9:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for all the input. I am looking into all the websites you've provided. I thought it was WAY to much $$$$. And the Doc says next step is shooting up the poor little thing :( I'd sure like to exaust ALL options before that!!!!! By the way...I'm 52, 5 years out, undetectable PSA. Had one bundle removed, partial erection with no drugs etc. I've found most durgs don't really help. My Doc really dropped the ball here on getting me back in the game....did an excellent job on the surgery, it was the old school big slice.but should have been aggressive to get me "back in the sadle". Please keep the suggestions comming. I will post up when I get what I need.....and the results. Thanks again.
Jim
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