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deer hunter
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   Posted 8/2/2010 9:10 AM (GMT -6)   
has anyone gotten  social security disability from PC and recurrance. If so was it hard to get it started.
dx age 57 01/06 open RP 4/06 psa in 01/06 8.1  surgery path report Gleason 3+4=7 poorly differentiated  tumor was 90%involved in both lobes surgical margins postive. in the right apex and right radial margins tumor grade G3  perineural invasion present high grade of PIN found  T2c NX MX PSA 0706  .01 10/06 .02 01/07 .03 04/07 .04  06/07 .05  07/07 .08 07/07 bone scans pelvic ct neg. 08/07 proscintic scan neg.9/07 psa.10 net with rad onc. wanted to do SRT but i did not do it 10/07  saw a new dr at Emory University [my old dr urg. suggested second opinion ]  bone scans negs ct scans pelvics neg. biopies of the bladder and adrinal glands neg.another proscintic scan neg.12/07 Psa .11 clinial trial Emory injected with protons to try and find the cancer cells no luck 3/08 psa .17 06/08 psa .23 psa 09/08 psa .32 12/08 psa .39 3/09 psa .39 6/09 psa .43  meet with medical onc. he said  i might have waited to long to start SRT 7/09 psa .50  another bone scan ct scan all neg.MRI neg. meet rad. psa the last of 7/09was .55 onc. 7/09 started casdex 50mg 1 day for 30 days 2 shots of lupron started rad treament 10/09 40 treatments 75 gm 12 shots each time all aroud pelvic finished 12/09  psa .07 and psa 01/10.05 next dr visit 03/10 wait and see 3/10 psa.05 5/14/10  family doc done blood work at my request her lab psa .01  
6/17/10 saw rad.onc. having problems with hips and muscles {bone density test sch, 6/25/10 wait and see

Sonny3
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   Posted 8/2/2010 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
I ran into a guy at the VA offices the other day who had prostate cancer and was just beginning the filing process for VA disability. In the course of conversation I mentioned that I was getting VA and in August I would be 62 and begin to draw Social Security.

He said he was already getting Social Security Disability. I asked for what and he told me that the tests they ran on his PCa showed degenerative areas of his spine for Osteoarthritis. So filed for Disability and they gave it to him for that. He said he would not have known about it if not for the PCa testing.

He thought there was no harm in filing and was surprised at how easy and fast the claim went through.

Ya just never know,

Sonny
60 years old when diagnosed
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
da Vinci 9/17/09
Post Surgery Pathology: GS 4+3=7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
positive margin, extra-prostatic extension
30 day PSA 0.4, 50 day psa 0.53, 64 day psa 0.6
IMRT completed 1/15/10 35 treatments- 70Gy

2/24/10 FIRST POST RAD PSA 1.0---CARRRP --waiting for the next test.
3/22/10 Second Post RAD PSA 1.5 Dammmmnnn stubborn son of a gun
4/19/10 YAHOO PSA dropped to 1.2 Moving in the right direction.
5/7/10 PSA test 1.3 Sodium Fluoride PET Scan & CT SCAN -performed
5/20/10 PSA test 1.2 Holding off on future tests for 3 months- single lytic lesion found and scheduling radiation.
7/22/10 PSA test 1.3 - Begin radiation for MET on leg

deer hunter
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   Posted 8/2/2010 12:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks guys,  I had a bone denisty test  the because of my hips getting stiff after SRT so I don't know if that might help of not I start drawing  social security in Sept I took early retirement at 62 so we will see. has anyone had hips to be stiff after SRT?
dx age 57 01/06 open RP 4/06 psa in 01/06 8.1  surgery path report Gleason 3+4=7 poorly differentiated  tumor was 90%involved in both lobes surgical margins postive. in the right apex and right radial margins tumor grade G3  perineural invasion present high grade of PIN found  T2c NX MX PSA 0706  .01 10/06 .02 01/07 .03 04/07 .04  06/07 .05  07/07 .08 07/07 bone scans pelvic ct neg. 08/07 proscintic scan neg.9/07 psa.10 net with rad onc. wanted to do SRT but i did not do it 10/07  saw a new dr at Emory University [my old dr urg. suggested second opinion ]  bone scans negs ct scans pelvics neg. biopies of the bladder and adrinal glands neg.another proscintic scan neg.12/07 Psa .11 clinial trial Emory injected with protons to try and find the cancer cells no luck 3/08 psa .17 06/08 psa .23 psa 09/08 psa .32 12/08 psa .39 3/09 psa .39 6/09 psa .43  meet with medical onc. he said  i might have waited to long to start SRT 7/09 psa .50  another bone scan ct scan all neg.MRI neg. meet rad. psa the last of 7/09was .55 onc. 7/09 started casdex 50mg 1 day for 30 days 2 shots of lupron started rad treament 10/09 40 treatments 75 gm 12 shots each time all aroud pelvic finished 12/09  psa .07 and psa 01/10.05 next dr visit 03/10 wait and see 3/10 psa.05 5/14/10  family doc done blood work at my request her lab psa .01  
6/17/10 saw rad.onc. having problems with hips and muscles {bone density test sch, 6/25/10 wait and see

Purgatory
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   Posted 8/2/2010 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
While still awaiting for approval for my Agent Orange/Viet-Nam disability from the VA (Filed late October), I have applied easily for SS Disability, awaiting approval there. The SS, despite reputation, has been a much easier process for me locally then the VA route. Have since found out, I could qualify and get both of them, and both would be tax free. I will be talking to my SS rep this week at the local office to see where I am at in the system. She had already told me that I would qualify for max. benefits because of my lifetime work history.

David in SC
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19

North Alabama
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   Posted 8/2/2010 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
You need to get a social security lawyer.  Your first application will get rejected.  Then you will will file an apeal and that will get rejected.  Then you will file another appeal and you will go before a federal judge with your lawyer.  By federal law, the lawyer is restricted on how much he can charge you in fees.  Do not be intimidated by this process, its really not that bad but takes about a year to complete.  Most importantly, you need legal help, because this is a legal process.
 
I am not a lawyer, but have observed this process for several family members who have had serious back problems.  Without the lawyer, chances are that you will be rejected.  I don't know what requirements there are to prove disability for cancer.  That is a question for the lawyer.  He will not take your case unless it is certain that you will get benefits.

Sonny3
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   Posted 8/2/2010 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
N. Ala, it seems like you have seen the worst of the SS Admin with the trials and tribulations of your family.

We have been fortunate to see the other side. My wife filed for SSD benefits in January of this year. We had been told pretty much the same thing about the long time of the process and rejections and appeals.

She put together her package including all of her medical records and I hand delivered it to the SS offices in January of this year. In early April she received a call from Social Security telling her she had been approved. It had been a little less than 4 full months. Although she was called a few times during the process and went through some interview questions she never had to go to their offices and has yet to meet with someone face to face from Social Security.

Additionally they told her she would be receiving her retroactive pay by the end of that week through electronic transfer. True to their word it was deposited on Friday of that week.

Let us all hope that this is becoming the norm for those deserving of disability benefits. These folks could sure use a break.

Sonny
60 years old when diagnosed
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
da Vinci 9/17/09
Post Surgery Pathology: GS 4+3=7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
positive margin, extra-prostatic extension
30 day PSA 0.4, 50 day psa 0.53, 64 day psa 0.6
IMRT completed 1/15/10 35 treatments- 70Gy

2/24/10 FIRST POST RAD PSA 1.0---CARRRP --waiting for the next test.
3/22/10 Second Post RAD PSA 1.5 Dammmmnnn stubborn son of a gun
4/19/10 YAHOO PSA dropped to 1.2 Moving in the right direction.
5/7/10 PSA test 1.3 Sodium Fluoride PET Scan & CT SCAN -performed
5/20/10 PSA test 1.2 Holding off on future tests for 3 months- single lytic lesion found and scheduling radiation.
7/22/10 PSA test 1.3 - Begin radiation for MET on leg

Purgatory
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   Posted 8/2/2010 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Sonny,

My adventure with the SS disability folks is going more along the lines of what you described. Just like the VA, I am sure it varies from state to state, region to region, even though its a federal thing.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19

North Alabama
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   Posted 8/2/2010 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
My experience with filing for social security disabillity for family members was about six years ago.  I see that since then new procedures for quicker approval and reducing backlog were put in place in 2006.  How about that, an improvement in government service.  But if you do get turned down for the first appeal that you submit, don't give up.  Go to federal court with a lawyer if you have to.  You won't stand a chance in court with out legal help because there can be a lot of legal technicallities concerning the definition of "disabillity" as it pertains to your occupation.  I found that the court experience was not too bad.  The judge seemed very reasonable and to wanted to help us, but you need professional help to present your case at that level. 

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 8/2/2010 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I know of a couple of people in my area that got SS disability. Each of them had to secure a disability lawyer. It still took quite a bit it time. If I were trying to get benifits I would suggest that you at least contact a lawyer in that area.

Cajun jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1 pre cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radical
Surgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clear

3 month: PSA <0.1
6 month: PSA <0.1
10 month:PSA <0.1
1 year: PSA <0.1
16 month:PSA <0.1

ED - Started Cialis at 3 months, tried all 3, 6 months added pump, 9 months Tried MUSE (YUCK) Bad experience.
1 year mark Found new Urologist visit was at 14th month post surgery
Started Injections, Caverject! (Success)
17 month: ED making improvements : Oral Meds gets me 85%

deer hunter
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   Posted 8/2/2010 5:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone for the input so far the Social security office has been nice .I sent a complete copies of all my medical  records .when I first applied for regular Social security the lady asked lif I had anything medical wrong with and i said I had PC she said I needed to apply for disability PC would qualifiewe will see
dx age 57 01/06 open RP 4/06 psa in 01/06 8.1  surgery path report Gleason 3+4=7 poorly differentiated  tumor was 90%involved in both lobes surgical margins postive. in the right apex and right radial margins tumor grade G3  perineural invasion present high grade of PIN found  T2c NX MX PSA 0706  .01 10/06 .02 01/07 .03 04/07 .04  06/07 .05  07/07 .08 07/07 bone scans pelvic ct neg. 08/07 proscintic scan neg.9/07 psa.10 net with rad onc. wanted to do SRT but i did not do it 10/07  saw a new dr at Emory University [my old dr urg. suggested second opinion ]  bone scans negs ct scans pelvics neg. biopies of the bladder and adrinal glands neg.another proscintic scan neg.12/07 Psa .11 clinial trial Emory injected with protons to try and find the cancer cells no luck 3/08 psa .17 06/08 psa .23 psa 09/08 psa .32 12/08 psa .39 3/09 psa .39 6/09 psa .43  meet with medical onc. he said  i might have waited to long to start SRT 7/09 psa .50  another bone scan ct scan all neg.MRI neg. meet rad. psa the last of 7/09was .55 onc. 7/09 started casdex 50mg 1 day for 30 days 2 shots of lupron started rad treament 10/09 40 treatments 75 gm 12 shots each time all aroud pelvic finished 12/09  psa .07 and psa 01/10.05 next dr visit 03/10 wait and see 3/10 psa.05 5/14/10  family doc done blood work at my request her lab psa .01  
6/17/10 saw rad.onc. having problems with hips and muscles {bone density test sch, 6/25/10 wait and see

woodysgirl
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   Posted 8/2/2010 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Go to SS's website and in the search box (upper right corner) type in Listings - Click on Listing of Impairments - Adult.  Cancer is covered in Section 13.  From my reading, it appears if you have distant (beyond regional lymph nodes) mets, you will meet a Listing and should be approved first go round.  If you are fortunate, you won't have distant mets, and may have a bit more difficulty getting approved.  If you appeal to the hearing level, you have a better chance getting approved because the Administrative Law Judge considers not only the medical evidence, but also how your treatment and its effects impact your ability to work on a competitive basis.    Leaky pipes probably wouldn't prevent you from working, but 10-12 prolonged trips to the john might.  Chronic fatigue beyond the course of treatment may also impact your ability to maintain competitive employment since many employers frown on napping during the work day.  If your cancer is expected to resolve with treatment within a 12 month period, then you will not qualify.  The million dollar question is, will the cancer resolve, and what will be the lasting impact of treatment.
 
 
Woodysgirl
_________
Woodys stats:
Age at daignosis 55
PSA at diagnosis 26
Biopsy results positive in 4/12 or possibly 4/6 (need to get clarrification)at 40% R&L mid; 60%  L apex; 80% R apex
Gleason 7 (3+4 in 3 and 4+3 at R apex)
Treatment choice: ADT/EBRT/HDR
 
 

fertree
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   Posted 8/2/2010 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I have to admit I know nothing about Social Security benefits, other than the check shows up every month. I applied for and receive Agent Orange VA benefits (amazingly, I received the first payment 3 weeks after I applied) but are you guys saying I may be entitled to a social security benefit as well? I stopped working 7 years before the PC diagnosis.
PSA 2.1 on Avodart
Biopsy: 1 of 12 cores positive >5%, Gleason 8
open RP: 05/10/2010 Dr. Gary Steinhoff, Victoria BC
Pathology: pT2c Gleason 3 (80%) 4(20%)=7, no lymph invasion, no extraprostatic extension, negative margins, tumor 5% of tissue.
Nerve bundles removed (based on original Gleason 8)
Incontenence: 6+pads for 9 weeks, dropped to 3 pads in 1 day.
First PSA >.01

compiler
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   Posted 8/2/2010 9:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm also quite ignorant about SS disability, so perhaps you can all enlighten me. I am 64 years old and still working. I love what I do and so far I haven't had a single PC symptom (well, not quite true since the surgery is no picnic and this is not great for one's emotional well being, but you get my point: employment-wise I am fine).
 
But suppose I have to undergo srt and things go bad and I can't work. My question is: what benefit is SS? In 2 years I will reach "regular" retirement age. My pre-PC plan was to work as long as I enjoy working and look forward to working. PC has made me rethink things. I may still have the same attitude or I might want to try something else in 2 years, and draw regular full SS benefits. If at that time I am disabled, what additional benefits would I get from SS disability. I know it might allow me to stop working before I am 66 and draw full regular SS benefits as if I was 66. Is that correct?
 
But once I am 66, is there any additional benefit?
 
This is a great topic.
 
Mel

63 years old . PSA-- 3/08--2.90; 8/09--4.01; 11/09--4.19 (Free PSA 24%),  after 45 days on cipro! DREs have always been normal. PCA-3 was about 75 (way above the 35 threshold). That led to:

Biopsy on 11/30/09. 5 out of 12 cores positive. Gleason 4+3. 2 cores were 3+3 (one 5% and the other 30%) on one side. On  other side:2 cores are 4+3 (5%)--1 core 3+4 (30%) no peri-neural invasion. prostate is 45 grams. Stage: T1C.  

Surgery with Dr. Menon at Ford Hospital, 1/26/10. He says all looked good. Spared nerves. Unfortunately: Pathology Report: G 4+3 (65%-35%). Cancer in 15% of gland. Lymph Nodes: Clear.  Perineural Invasion: yes. Seminal Vessical Involvement: No.  Extraprostatic Extension: yes.  Positive Margin: Yes-- focal-- 1 spot .5mm. Final Weight is 52.7 gms.  (Second opinion from Jon Epstein at Hopkins confirmed these results)

 Incontinence: joined that club-- definite leaks—1 pad/day. Night is dry, was  using 1 pad at night for security, but pretty much dispensed with that most nights. Update: no pads at night. No pads while at home, but still very uncomfortable. Use 1 pad for out-of-house activities. Suddenly got MUCH better on 3/10/10, almost overnight. Still some urgency but no pads about 90% of the time.  As of 3/12/10--completely continent! Uh...OH. As of about 3/16/10 problems with constant urgency although no pads needed--feels like an infection but none showing in urine.

Update: since late March all is well in that area. I would say 99.9% continent (a spurt here and there, maybe 5 spurts per week). As of 6/22/10, I would say I am 100% continent, but I do have (controllable) significant urgency.

First post-op PSA on 3/10/10--DRUM ROLL: 0.01 Next PSA in mid-June.

Second post-op PSA on 6/21/10--0.02--Not too bad!


Sonny3
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   Posted 8/2/2010 10:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Mel,

Looking back over some of my annual reports from SS, I would receive a small percentage more on disability than I would if I waited till the 66year 6mos time frame.

The current times to collect SS are 62yo, 66y 6mos, or 70.

So if you were able to get disability now, you would get a little more than if you waited until 66 years and you would be drawing it for 2 1/2 years longer.

This is just the math part. The whole other discussion is you desire and ability to work.

Just more info for thought,

Sonny
60 years old when diagnosed
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
da Vinci 9/17/09
Post Surgery Pathology: GS 4+3=7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
positive margin, extra-prostatic extension
30 day PSA 0.4, 50 day psa 0.53, 64 day psa 0.6
IMRT completed 1/15/10 35 treatments- 70Gy

2/24/10 FIRST POST RAD PSA 1.0---CARRRP --waiting for the next test.
3/22/10 Second Post RAD PSA 1.5 Dammmmnnn stubborn son of a gun
4/19/10 YAHOO PSA dropped to 1.2 Moving in the right direction.
5/7/10 PSA test 1.3 Sodium Fluoride PET Scan & CT SCAN -performed
5/20/10 PSA test 1.2 Holding off on future tests for 3 months- single lytic lesion found and scheduling radiation.
7/22/10 PSA test 1.3 - Begin radiation for MET on leg

compiler
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   Posted 8/2/2010 11:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Actually for me it is 66 years exactly (ie: 0 months).
 
Mel

63 years old . PSA-- 3/08--2.90; 8/09--4.01; 11/09--4.19 (Free PSA 24%),  after 45 days on cipro! DREs have always been normal. PCA-3 was about 75 (way above the 35 threshold). That led to:

Biopsy on 11/30/09. 5 out of 12 cores positive. Gleason 4+3. 2 cores were 3+3 (one 5% and the other 30%) on one side. On  other side:2 cores are 4+3 (5%)--1 core 3+4 (30%) no peri-neural invasion. prostate is 45 grams. Stage: T1C.  

Surgery with Dr. Menon at Ford Hospital, 1/26/10. He says all looked good. Spared nerves. Unfortunately: Pathology Report: G 4+3 (65%-35%). Cancer in 15% of gland. Lymph Nodes: Clear.  Perineural Invasion: yes. Seminal Vessical Involvement: No.  Extraprostatic Extension: yes.  Positive Margin: Yes-- focal-- 1 spot .5mm. Final Weight is 52.7 gms.  (Second opinion from Jon Epstein at Hopkins confirmed these results)

 Incontinence: joined that club-- definite leaks—1 pad/day. Night is dry, was  using 1 pad at night for security, but pretty much dispensed with that most nights. Update: no pads at night. No pads while at home, but still very uncomfortable. Use 1 pad for out-of-house activities. Suddenly got MUCH better on 3/10/10, almost overnight. Still some urgency but no pads about 90% of the time.  As of 3/12/10--completely continent! Uh...OH. As of about 3/16/10 problems with constant urgency although no pads needed--feels like an infection but none showing in urine.

Update: since late March all is well in that area. I would say 99.9% continent (a spurt here and there, maybe 5 spurts per week). As of 6/22/10, I would say I am 100% continent, but I do have (controllable) significant urgency.

First post-op PSA on 3/10/10--DRUM ROLL: 0.01 Next PSA in mid-June.

Second post-op PSA on 6/21/10--0.02--Not too bad!


luv1vet
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   Posted 8/3/2010 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, my hubby was approved for SSD after suffering a recurrence of prostate cancer.  The process was painless but we did have a five month wait before the first payment and no retro pay.  Social Security website has a list of impairments and the conditions on that list are less difficult to qualify.   

Purgatory
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   Posted 8/3/2010 7:15 PM (GMT -6)   
luv, my local SS agent told me about the 5 month part, but they went all the way back to 8/2008 when I was dx with PC, and is counting the 5 months from then, and said for sure, that they would retro pay all but that first 5 months. In my case, still haven't seen a cent yet, as approval is still in progress.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, next one: Aug 3
Latest:  7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4,  Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days,  Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19

luv1vet
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   Posted 8/6/2010 7:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Purgatory, I don't want to confuse the issue.  I am no expert on SSD but as i remember the SSD benefits are paid as far back as the initial claim date submitted.  In the event that your claim was submitted and hung up for any reason, as in an initial denial, delay, or appeals than you would be paid retroactively through to that claim date and excluding the 5 month waiting period.  Although my husbands initial bout of prostate cancer was in 2002, he did not suffer a recurrence until 2007.  The condition did not interfere with his ability to work until June of 2009.  Thats when he submitted his SSD claim.  Although his condition existed and was medically verifiable years before his SSD application was submitted, he was not eligable for retro benefits with no application/claim filed until August of 2009.   He received his award letter in December, 2009.  I certainly hope your case will allow full retro benefits, but would also advise you avoid counting your chickens before they hatch.   Now there's always a chance that different states allow for different procedures. For instance, in Louisiana a decission must be rendered by the fifth month.  It took every bit of five months to get the decission, but our counselor kept us posted every step of the way.  This made waiting much easier.  If anything was delaying the decission he would call and advise/instruct us as to what we could do to facilitate the process.  It was not a bad process at all.  And now that we are approved my hubby gets his direct deposit on the third Wednesday of every month.  Reliably!  Oh, social security (dot) gov has a most frequent questions category on their website.  It addresses questions like retro pay and the effective date of disability.  It is helpful.      

Purgatory
Elite Member


Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 8/6/2010 7:06 PM (GMT -6)   
luv,

i think i see the difference between the 2 cases. unlike your husband, i have not been able to work physically since my initial open surgery. my uro/surgeon has already certified me not fit to work long ago. i should have applied for this a year ago, but i kept thinking and hoping i would eventually heal sufficent to work again. trust me, i am not looking for an excuse to not work, i only wish i were well enough to be back in the hub of the business world, i miss all that part.

david
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin

Incontinence: 1 Month ED: Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16

Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 3
Latest: 7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped 9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4, Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days, Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19

Sonny3
Veteran Member


Date Joined Aug 2009
Total Posts : 2448
   Posted 8/7/2010 4:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Thought I would chime in here from personal experience.

You all know that my wife went into the hospital June 26, 2009. It turned into a 8-9 week stay, most of which was spent in ICU on a ventilator. I remember the date well, it was 3 days later, June 29th that my diagnosis came back positive for PCa.

She was not able to return to work and her firm placed her on disability retirement.

She filed for SSD in either late Jan or early Feb. She was approved in May and was paid back pay from December. This was a result of the 5 month elimination/waiting period that began June 26, 09.

You can file for SSD anytime but you must have a 5 month period of non working that starts with your first missed day of work because of the episode before funds will begin to flow.

As far as I know there is no limitation on when you can or have to file. It's just that the 5 month elimination period must be satisfied before any funds will be sent. When her first check arrived it was a little over $12k.

Hope this helps,

Sonny
60 years old when diagnosed
PSA 11/07 3.0
PSA 5/09 6.4
da Vinci 9/17/09
Post Surgery Pathology: GS 4+3=7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5%
positive margin, extra-prostatic extension
30 day PSA 0.4, 50 day psa 0.53, 64 day psa 0.6
IMRT completed 1/15/10 35 treatments- 70Gy

2/24/10 FIRST POST RAD PSA 1.0---CARRRP --waiting for the next test.
3/22/10 Second Post RAD PSA 1.5 Dammmmnnn stubborn son of a gun
4/19/10 YAHOO PSA dropped to 1.2 Moving in the right direction.
5/7/10 PSA test 1.3 Sodium Fluoride PET Scan & CT SCAN -performed
5/20/10 PSA test 1.2 Holding off on future tests for 3 months- single lytic lesion found and scheduling radiation.
7/22/10 PSA test 1.3 - Begin radiation for MET on leg

male_sling_problems
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 134
   Posted 8/7/2010 6:59 PM (GMT -6)   
When I filed for SSD benefits in 2000 there was a classification specifically for incontinence. My first two applications received the standard rejections. Then, with the help of an attorney that specializes in SS claims, the final application before a federal administrative judge was approved in about 10 minutes. He concluded that a person with moderate to severe incontinence could not perform a substantial amount of work over a sustained period of time, thus was disabled.

He granted a 100% disability with the first review due in ten years. That took me to the age where SSD automatically becomes regular SS.

The attorney was paid a percentage of the award, set by the courts, with no money owed in the event no money was awarded.

Best regards,

John

deer hunter
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 250
   Posted 8/7/2010 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone for your input on the SSD It helps to hear about other that have fought the SSD battle and won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dx age 57 01/06 open RP 4/06 psa in 01/06 8.1  surgery path report Gleason 3+4=7 poorly differentiated  tumor was 90%involved in both lobes surgical margins postive. in the right apex and right radial margins tumor grade G3  perineural invasion present high grade of PIN found  T2c NX MX PSA 0706  .01 10/06 .02 01/07 .03 04/07 .04  06/07 .05  07/07 .08 07/07 bone scans pelvic ct neg. 08/07 proscintic scan neg.9/07 psa.10 net with rad onc. wanted to do SRT but i did not do it 10/07  saw a new dr at Emory University [my old dr urg. suggested second opinion ]  bone scans negs ct scans pelvics neg. biopies of the bladder and adrinal glands neg.another proscintic scan neg.12/07 Psa .11 clinial trial Emory injected with protons to try and find the cancer cells no luck 3/08 psa .17 06/08 psa .23 psa 09/08 psa .32 12/08 psa .39 3/09 psa .39 6/09 psa .43  meet with medical onc. he said  i might have waited to long to start SRT 7/09 psa .50  another bone scan ct scan all neg.MRI neg. meet rad. psa the last of 7/09was .55 onc. 7/09 started casdex 50mg 1 day for 30 days 2 shots of lupron started rad treament 10/09 40 treatments 75 gm 12 shots each time all aroud pelvic finished 12/09  psa .07 and psa 01/10.05 next dr visit 03/10 wait and see 3/10 psa.05 5/14/10  family doc done blood work at my request her lab psa .01  
6/17/10 saw rad.onc. having problems with hips and muscles {bone density test sch, 6/25/10 wait and see
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