Hey- John T. how do we get Dr. Scholz new book you mentioned August???

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zufus
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   Posted 8/8/2010 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Got any more info on this, and do elaborate with the title on it too.  I probably am stealing your posting on this, but I am freakin excited as heck to read his book. I don't care what it costs, how do I get asap???
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Tudpock18
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   Posted 8/8/2010 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   

Zufus, I had been wondering about that also.  I just Googled, "Dr. Scholz book" and see that it will be published Aug 24 and you can pre-order from Barnes and Noble for $16.83.  Incidentally, the title is "Invasion of the Prostate Snatchers:  No More Unnecessary Biopsies, Radical Treatment or Loss of Sexual Potency".  I'm pre-ordering as soon as I leave this posting!

Tudpock (Jim)

P.S.  Sorry, JT for stealing your answer!  (But you still get all the credit for telling us about this in the first place!)


Age 62, Gleason 3 + 4 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2 of 16 cores cancerous, 27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 4/10/10.  6 month PSA 1.4 and now 1 year PSA at 1.0.  My docs are "delighted"!

Purgatory
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   Posted 8/8/2010 2:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Here's a link from the publisher about the book:

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781590513422
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin

Incontinence: 1 Month ED: Non issue at any point post surgery, no problem post SRT
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16

Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, next test 11/10
Latest: 7/9 cath #6 - 41 days, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 - 38 days, mapped 9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, Cath #10 43 days, 1/19 - Corr Surgery #4, Caths #11 and #12 ,Cath #11 - 21 days, Cath #12 - 41 days, 3/2- Corr Surgery #5, Cath #13 - 4 days, Cath #14- 27 days, Cath #15 - 26 days, Cath #16 - 31 days, Cath #17 - 39 days, 7/2 - Corr Surgery #6, Cath #18 - 13 days, Cath #19 - 17 days, Total Blockage, Cath # 20 - 7/19

Tudpock18
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   Posted 8/8/2010 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   

$15.18 at www.buy.com

Tud (Jim)


Age 62, Gleason 3 + 4 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2 of 16 cores cancerous, 27cc
Brachytherapy December 9, 2008.  73 Iodine-125 seeds.  Procedure went great, catheter out before I went home, only minor discomfort.  Regular activities resumed, everything continues to function normally as of 4/10/10.  6 month PSA 1.4 and now 1 year PSA at 1.0.  My docs are "delighted"!

medved
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   Posted 8/8/2010 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
You can read some reviews on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Invasion-Prostate-Snatchers-Unnecessary-Treatment/dp/1590513428/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I saw this odd quote in one of the reviews:

"Co-author Ralph Blum (an author noted for his work on Runes and UFOs) describes, early in the book, how his wife, using a gold-tipped needle, drained out negative energy from his prostate through a point on his ear. Now, who am I to say whether there is something to this? But it did make me wonder."

I trust there's some better advice in the book than ear-piercing to "drain out negative energy"! (That's not part of any active-surveilance protocal that I have ever heard of)
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 

Ziggy9
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   Posted 8/8/2010 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
about time a book like this comes out. If it just slows down those cows going to slaughter type lines it will be a huge benefit to many in the future.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A
 
2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal
 
7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 -
April 2009 12 of 12 Negative Biopsy
 
2/16/10 12 of 12 Negative Biopsy 

medved
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   Posted 8/8/2010 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hopefully, it does not -- at the same time -- cause people who need treatment to decline that treatment until its too late.
 
Age 46.  Father died of p ca. 
My psa starting age 40: 1.4, 1.3, 1.43, 1.74, 1.7, 1.5, 1.5
 

Casey59
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   Posted 8/8/2010 4:43 PM (GMT -6)   
A little bird told me that the tsunami had started building over here...

zufus
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   Posted 8/8/2010 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Tud I am ordering the book, if something inside were amiss it will be exposed and debated in alot of places.  
 
Thanks Purg-David for the publisher had this to say objectively, so as not (con) screw Dr. Scholz on his findings (LOL):
 
Invasion of the Prostate Snatchers is a report on the latest thinking in prostate cancer therapy: close monitoring–active surveillance rather than surgery or radiation–should be the initial treatment approach for many men. There are three stages of prostate cancer and this book will provide accurate information about how to distinguish between them: Low-Risk, which requires no immediate treatment; Intermediate-Risk, which will benefit from surgery, radiation, and/or hormonal therapy; and High-Risk, a type that does require immediate treatment with a combination of therapies...
 
 
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tatt2man
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   Posted 8/8/2010 7:49 PM (GMT -6)   
and for those kindle-enhanced - it is through amazon.com in kindle download for $9.99....

another review mentioned humour - what a concept....
.................
Age: 54 - gay - with common-law spouse of 13 years, Steve - 60
PSA: 04/2007- 1.68 - 08/2009 - 3.46 - 10/2009 - 3.86
Confirmation of Prostate Cancer: October 16, 2009 - 6 of 12 cancerous samples , Gleason 7 (4+3)
Doctor: Dr. Mohamed Elharram -Urologist / Surgeon - Peterborough Regional Health Centre
Radical Prostatectomy Operation: November 18, 2009 , home - November 21, 2009
Post Surgery Biopsy: pT3a- gleason 7 - extraprostatic extension - perineural invasion - prostate weight - 34.1gm -
ED Prescription: Jan 8/2010 - started daily 5mg cialis - girth back to normal -but not much length - June/2010 -have trimix - tried it twice - Aug 2010 -just lacking motivation right now
Incontinence: Feb 2010- 3-5 pads/1-2 clothes changes/day- March 3, 2010 - week 14 after surgery -finally seeing improvement - March 29- incontinence better - 1-2 pads a day - one pad at night - May 25 - 1 pad during day - 1 pad at night for security (barely needed at all) - stress incontinence at work - lifting trees and shrubs - August 2010 - still at one pad for day and one for night - primarily for hygiene and security - still having good and bad days due to stress and what I have consumed.
location: Peteborough, Ontario, Canada
Post Surgery-PSA: - April 8, 2010 - 0.05 - I am in the ZERO CLUB - hooorah!
Next PSA - October 8, 2010 - TBA -
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John T
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   Posted 8/8/2010 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know anything about Ralph Blume, but I can absolutely verify that Dr Scholz is an expert on Prostate Cancer. He is an oncologist who was the former partner of Dr Stephen Strum. They both founded the Prostate Cancer Research Institute that is dedicated to the education of doctors and patients on all aspects of prostate cancer. Check out the website; it is full of published papers from the leading experts in PC on every aspect from diagnostic scanning to chemo.
Dr Scholz only treats prostate cancer and has an active patient list of 1300 patients that he is currently treating. He has treated tens of thousands of cases of PC and has seen just about every kind of PC there is. He also has his own research department directed by Dr Lam doing research in treatments for advanced prostate cancer. Both of them have published many papers on PC.
He is an absolute believer in having the patient educate himself. His office has two walls dedicated to about 100 published papers on PC zeroxed for his patients to take.
If anyone knows how PC works and manifests itself, he does. He diagnosed me in 5 minutes after 5 different doctors from UCI, UCLA, UCSF told me I had BPH for 10 years. One look at my 10 year history and he said you definatly have major Prostate Cancer because nothing else acts like that. It's either a large transition zone tumor that 13 biopsies misssed or it is lympnode matastatis; we just now have to determine which it is. He was right on. He explained all the testing he would do and recommended Color Doppler and Combidex which I had never heard of before and none of my other doctors ever mentioned to me.
JT

64 years old.

PSA rising for 10 years to 40, free psa 10-15. Had 5 urologists, 12 biopsies and MRIS all neg. Doctors DXed BPH and continue to get biopsies yearly. 13th biopsy positive in 10-08, 2 cores of 25, G6 less than 5%. Scheduled for surgery as recommended by Urological Oncologist.

2nd Opinion from Dr Sholtz, a Prostate Oncologist, said DX wrong, pathology shows indolant cancer, but psa history indicates large cancer or metastasis. Futher tests and Color Doppler confirmed large transition zone tumor that 13 biopsies and MRIS missed. G7, 4+3, approx 16mmX18mm.

Combidex MRI in Holland eliminated lymphnode mets. Casodex and Proscar reduced psa to 0.6 and prostate from 60mm to 32mm. Changed diet, no meat and dairy. All staging tests indicate that tumor is local and non agressive. (PAP, PCA3, MRIS, Color Doppler, Combidex, tumor reaction to diet and Casodex, and tumor location in transition zone). Surgery a poor option because tumor is located next to the urethea and positive margin is very likely; permanent incontenance is also high probability with surgery.

Seed implants on 5-19-09, 3 hours door to door, no pain, minor side affects are frequency and urgency; very controlable with Flowmax and lasted 4 weeks. Daily activities resumed day after implants with no restrictions. Gold markers implanted with seeds to guide IMRT.

25 treatments of IMRT 6 weeks after seed implants. No side affects at all.

PSA at end of treatment 0.02 mostly the result of Casodex. When I stop Casodex next week expect PSA to rise. Next PSA in November. Treatments and side affects have greatly exceeded my expectations. Glad to have this 11 year journey finally conclude.

JohnT


zufus
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   Posted 8/9/2010 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Bought it at Tud's directive(but your heads up) on pre-order and good price, saving around $9-10 on it. Maybe early order guys will receive this by end of August? I will expect to see some quotes posted herein on the forum, directly out of the book. I hope he has like Dr. Strum used, real patient histories with an example of what was done and outcomes to date, etc. Hope you aren't angry with me for dropping your name on this, and starting the thread thingy. Figured you know him best and knew something about the book coming out, which totally surprized me, we were overdue for another PCa book. Maybe other docs will be coming out with theirs being inspired by such.
Youth is wasted on the Young-(W.C. Fields)

el perro
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   Posted 8/9/2010 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
from Publishers Weekly via Barnes and Noble website:

"those who've faced any cancer crisis should also take heed--and heart--from cultural anthropologist Blum, who's lived with prostate cancer for two decades, and oncologist Scholz, an associate clinical professor at USC School of Medicine, who champions "testosterone inactivating pharmaceuticals" for early stage disease--these reduce levels of testosterone, which prostate cancer cells need to grow."

The quote is secondhand information, possibly out of context, but I'm wondering if Scholz favors ADT as first line therapy for low-risk patients? Guess I'll have to buy the book too.
Dx 11/2008, Gleason 3+3
Active surveillance for now

John T
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   Posted 8/9/2010 3:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I can tell you that he does not. We discussed this at length because after reading some of Dr Liebowitz's studies I was seriously thinking about it. He basically said we could try it for one or two years then get a biopsy to see it it worked. Said chances were about 30%-50% that HT would result in total remission, but did not recommend it. He said that immediate treatment would give a 70% to 90% chance of cure and didn't have to wait two years to see if it worked. He also said that HT works differently in different patients, some respond very rapidly and go into complete remission while in others it makes little difference and only slows the growth for a while.
When asked about the Liebowitz protocol he said that Liebowitz thinks there is only one way to treat PC, and if you hear that from any doctor then run for the hills. There are a lot of effective ways of treating PC and the object is to match the treatment to the biology of the cancer and to minimize side affects of the treatment.
JT

64 years old.

PSA rising for 10 years to 40, free psa 10-15. Had 5 urologists, 12 biopsies and MRIS all neg. Doctors DXed BPH and continue to get biopsies yearly. 13th biopsy positive in 10-08, 2 cores of 25, G6 less than 5%. Scheduled for surgery as recommended by Urological Oncologist.

2nd Opinion from Dr Sholtz, a Prostate Oncologist, said DX wrong, pathology shows indolant cancer, but psa history indicates large cancer or metastasis. Futher tests and Color Doppler confirmed large transition zone tumor that 13 biopsies and MRIS missed. G7, 4+3, approx 16mmX18mm.

Combidex MRI in Holland eliminated lymphnode mets. Casodex and Proscar reduced psa to 0.6 and prostate from 60mm to 32mm. Changed diet, no meat and dairy. All staging tests indicate that tumor is local and non agressive. (PAP, PCA3, MRIS, Color Doppler, Combidex, tumor reaction to diet and Casodex, and tumor location in transition zone). Surgery a poor option because tumor is located next to the urethea and positive margin is very likely; permanent incontenance is also high probability with surgery.

Seed implants on 5-19-09, 3 hours door to door, no pain, minor side affects are frequency and urgency; very controlable with Flowmax and lasted 4 weeks. Daily activities resumed day after implants with no restrictions. Gold markers implanted with seeds to guide IMRT.

25 treatments of IMRT 6 weeks after seed implants. No side affects at all.

PSA at end of treatment 0.02 mostly the result of Casodex. When I stop Casodex next week expect PSA to rise. Next PSA in November. Treatments and side affects have greatly exceeded my expectations. Glad to have this 11 year journey finally conclude.

JohnT


el perro
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   Posted 8/10/2010 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the clarification, John T. I was surprised when I saw that in the review. Maybe they are talking about Avodart/Proscar to block DHT instead of full-blown ADT3. Anyway, I look forward to reading the book.
Dx 11/2008, Gleason 3+3
Active surveillance for now

zufus
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   Posted 8/24/2010 12:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Well the book was shipped 8-23-2010 and same for TudPock and others whom bought from www.buy.com (pre-orders) We shall see what is contained first hand, thereafter. Maybe someone will buy it today as it hits the shelves?
Dx-2002 total urinary blockage, bPsa 46.6 12/12 biopsies all loaded 75-95% vol.; Gleasons scores 7,8,9's (2-sets), gland size 35 normal, ct and bone scans appearing clear- ADT3 5 months prior to radiations neutron/photon 2-machines, cont'd. ADT3, quit after 2 yrs. switched to DES 1-mg, off for 1 yr., controlled so well, resumed, using intermittently, pleased with results

Purgatory
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   Posted 8/24/2010 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Will be interesting to see what some of our HW experts think of the new book, when they can read it first hand. Hope some good info is shared.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

Galileo
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   Posted 8/24/2010 1:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm not following this with interest but I did see the question raised about TIP, which seems to be a new term Blum and Scholz are promoting in place of ADT. I saw as a I flipped through the latest PCRI Insights (free newsletter for PCa patients) that there was an excerpt from the book about TIP, and checking just now I see that it's free on the website.

"A MEDICINE TO TREAT PROSTATE CANCER?
What if there were a highly effective treatment with reversible side effects, a treatment that not only worked inside the prostate but also had anticancer effects covering the whole body? Believe it or not, there is such a treatment presently available – blockade of the male hormone testosterone, the type of treatment that Ralph describes in chapter 7."

www.prostate-cancer.org/pcricms/sites/default/files/PDFs/Is13-3_p16-20.pdf

The article goes on to discuss how TIP was invented in the 1980's--a medical treatment that achieved the same effects as surgery (orchiectomy) Seems to me it's just semantics--substituting the acronym TIP for ADT, but again, this is not my area of interest (at least, not yet!) and I leave that to others more knowledgeable about such things.
Galileo

Dx Feb 2006, PSA 9 @age 43
RRP Apr 2006 - Gleason 3+4, T2c, NX MX, pos margins
PSA 5/06 <0.1, 8/06 0.2, 12/06 0.6, 1/07 0.7.
Salvage radiation (IMRT) Jan-Mar 2007
PSA 9/2007 and thereafter <0.1
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zufus
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   Posted 8/25/2010 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Galileo- you have telescopic vision and the rest of the world wears bi-focals!
(that was discount humor, stolen from Paul Newman from Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid...I know every line almost in that movie, this one herein is quoted and spun alittle to custom fit). First attempt at the link I got a Gateway timed-out screen?

I hope the book has alot more than mentioning ADT as a choice before surgery and other treatments, heck that is old news and coined by Leibowitz long ago now. Rick K. I mentioned has done this for 15 years successfully, with clear biopsies just done. I asked him to post his story, he may update all his records and post it, hopefully.
Dx-2002 total urinary blockage, bPsa 46.6 12/12 biopsies all loaded 75-95% vol.; Gleasons scores 7,8,9's (2-sets), gland size 35 normal, ct and bone scans appearing clear- ADT3 5 months prior to radiations neutron/photon 2-machines, cont'd. ADT3, quit after 2 yrs. switched to DES 1-mg, off for 1 yr., controlled so well, resumed, using intermittently, pleased with results
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