Frequent Nightime Urination

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SubicSquid
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   Posted 9/2/2010 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Since my salvage radiation, I have been suffering from urgency problems and having to pee every 1-1.5 hours at night.  I was just wondering if anyone else with this problem had been helped by any medication, without getting worse side effects.  Squid.

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 9/2/2010 1:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I thought you were at home being surrounded by wet stuff turn
 
But, have you talked to your doc? Are you taking any anti spaz meds?

SubicSquid
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   Posted 9/2/2010 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
While I was getting radiation Doc mentioned Detrol.  I was just wonder if anybody had taken any meds and if they did any good.  I don't want to add lousy side effects to the picture.  Squid.

compiler
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   Posted 9/2/2010 2:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Squid:
 
How are you during the day.
 
Also, how were you pre-SRT
 
Mel

SubicSquid
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   Posted 9/2/2010 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Doesn't seem to be as bad during the day.  Maybe just not as noticeable.  Prior to radiation, I was down to maybe one time a night.  The radiation really increased the urgency factor.  When I have to go, I have to go NOW!!! It's a shame, because incontinence has gone to zero.  I was on one pad a day prior to radiation, now none.  Just the smallest of drips every now and then.  At least my stricture problem hasn't returned (yet) and I can pee freely.  I guess that is a big plus. Squid.

Purgatory
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   Posted 9/2/2010 3:03 PM (GMT -6)   
squid, my dr. had me try detrol as a sub for the ditropan, hoping to knock out the spasms, it did nothing for me, so went back to the ditropan, i heard that ditropan can be used for urgency issues, ask your dr, its dirt cheap, no real side effects after nearly 2 years on it
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
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tatt2man
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   Posted 9/2/2010 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
SQUID - since my RP I would be getting up 2- 3 times a night to pee ... down to only 1 pad during the day - but always feeling that slight urge to pee - and when it happens - its only an ounce or two .... and that would be about every 30 minutes to an hour during work ...

-- a few days ago I got a flyer about a herbal sleep apnea and snoring product - since I have had obstructive sleep apnea and central sleep apnea , it caught my attention -
-I researched the product to make sure the ingredients did not help feed PCA - so bought it and tried it...

-on the first night I slept from 10pm-4am - pee'd and then back to sleep to wake at 6am ... wow!
-on the second night - woke up at three - pee'd and then back to sleep and woke at 6am ...
and what was also very interesting - the urge to pee and feeling on stress incontinence was greatly diminished during the day - I only had to pee once during my 6 hour shift instead of 3-4 times...

-am keeping a sleep log record on this - so far , I am pleased... my mind is not centred on my incontinence, and I feel I can move more freely ( would be great if this could last !!)

-it is BELL - MASTER HERBALIST - SNORING & SLEEP APNEA EEZE - it may be of benefit to those who are heavy leakers as well...
it contains - MSM , Melatonin , chamomille , passionflower , skulcap and valerian ....
- a high percentage of those ingredients are good for stress and basic sleep aid ... have tried valerian in the past and it worked as a sleep aid for a while ..


- maybe there is hope for night time incontinence -
hugs -
BRONSON

p.s. please note - I am not endorsing any particular product - just relaying my experience with this one - some of or all of the ingredients listed may help with stress and muscle fatigue ....

Post Edited (tatt2man) : 9/2/2010 4:05:27 PM (GMT-6)


SubicSquid
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   Posted 9/2/2010 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
David, Bronson - thanks.  I'll be seeing my radiologist first week of October.  If I am still having the problem I'll see what he recommends. Squid.

tatt2man
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   Posted 9/2/2010 4:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Squid - please keep us updated on your progress.
all the best
BRONSON
Age: 54 -gay with spouse, Steve - live in Peteborough, Ontario, Canada
PSA: 10/06/2009 - 3.86
Biopsy: 10/16/2009- 6 of 12 cancerous samples, Gleason 7 (4+3)
Radical Prostatectomy: 11/18/2009
Pathology: pT3a- gleason 7 -extraprostatic extension -perineural invasion -prostate weight -34.1 gm
Post Surgery-PSA: April 8, 2010 - 0.05 -I am in the ZERO CLUB - hooorah!
Next PSA: Sept 23, 2010 -TBA

60Michael
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   Posted 9/2/2010 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Squid
I have had the same problem and the Oncologist tried me on Flomax although I didnt undertand  why. He said that if it worked I would know within a couple of weeks, and it didnt help. My Urologist gave me samples of Gelnique a new product and I guess expensive,and is a liquid that you rub on your body. Still didnt help. So now it might be detrol and I have heard it has side effects. But not sleeping well has side effects as well and I am 6 months post SRT. Will try that and see if it helps. Keep us posted if you find anything of use.
Michael

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   Posted 9/3/2010 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   

I have been having the same problem as well. On 16 Sept 2010 the urologist is going to go in with a scope and make sure that there isn't excess scar tissue in the Urethra. He may be right.  A couple days ago I had three bright red clumps that look like clots and a little bit of blood come out.  I called the doctor's office and they said not to worry about it.  However, I have improved a lot since then.

 

After reading what the rest of you have written it helps to know you are not unique when it comes to this.

 

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